Resonae

Who remembers me?

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Am I right in thinking that taking a ride with the Gnomecopters was once a task? It isn't anymore, but it might be that you still need to do it. Take a ride and then go ask for a ring.

I would say, "Who are you?" And he would say, "Zezima." And I would say, "I don't know you, stop talking to me or I'll ignore you." Same as everyone else. Then I would siggy it.

Heh, neither am I. What I normally do is buy coal and mithril and smelt it the furnace method, and then wait for an opportunity to buy nature runes. A bit risky but less waiting involved. Thanks!

No, you can only heat 3 addy bars at once. I think you forget to count the item slot for nature runes. But the runite part is true. However, having junk in your inventory while heating addy is pointless. Just withdraw more addy ores so you don't have to bank the bars everytime. To be exactly: You only have to bank them every three times. Thanks bighairyball for the correction, and BiJay for the tip. Hey, me too! Wow we have so much in common! :P

They want to be the one parading around telling people how to do it.

Hopefully the alchemy update applies to superheat and enchant etc. as well, having to go back to the spellbook while superheating really grinds my gears.

This is my very own guide (yes it's mine) for BLACKSMITHING. Or, since there is no such thing as black ore in RuneScape (how the hell did the black knights get their stuff?) and since I will be focusing on smithing mithril, BLUESMITHING. Or maybe I should just be a regular person and call it: Smithing. Why smith? Well, I do it for the roleplay. I really love putting my hands naked into a roaring fire and taking them out singed and clothed in a hot metal bar. And then there's profit. Certainly not the fastest in P2P, but one of the faster methods of making money in F2P (if you play your cards right). Maybe this should be called guide to the card game of smithing? The first thing to know is where the hell you're supposed to smith. Well, you're looking for a bank which is relatively close to a furnace. So smithing in the Wilderness and banking in Varrock is not a good idea. The fastest place to smith in F2P is Al Kharid: Compared to the Falador route: And here, just for fun, the Wilderness route: Those blots at the top, if you can't read, are spiders which attack you, causing you to stop smithing. So take your pick. Smithing with speed in desert heat, smithing slowly in the warmish Falador, or smithing VERY slowly in the icy Wilderness? Personally I favour speed over temperature, but if you want to smith in the Wilderness that's up to you. The next thing you need to ask yourself is, am I in this for profit or for levels? [hide=Profit]Smithing for profit involves getting raw materials on your own, making them into bars, and selling the bars. For the sake of completion I will cover bronze up, even though nobody in their right mind does bronze when they can avoid it. The first thing you should do is get your raw materials. These include: Tin and Copper Iron Iron and two lumps of coal Mithril and four lumps of coal Adamant and six lumps of coal Runite :shock: and eight lumps of coal Now, I REALLY suggest that you go for levels if you can only smith bronze. But that's up to you. This is the simple part of the guide. All you need to do is buy the right amount of material, smith it at one of the above mentioned locations, and sell the bars. The formulae for determining your profit is: Tin and Copper: (Price of Bronze Bar at min) - (Price of Tin at market) - (Price of Copper at market) Iron: Technically it is the bar minus the ore. But iron is very unrefined and as such can FAIL to produce a bar. And you will still lose the ore. So don't touch iron. Steel: (Price of Steel Bar at min)-(Price of Iron at market)-2*(Price of Coal at market) Mithril: (Price of Mithril Bar at min)-(Price of Mithril Ore at market)-4*(Price of Coal at market) Adamantite: (Price of Adamantite Bar at min)-(Price of Adamantite Ore at market)-6*(Price of Coal at market) RUNITE!!!: (Price of Runite Bar at min)-(Price of Runite Ore at market)-8*(Price of Coal at market) To use these formulae just stick them into Google and replace the various prices with numbers. I say use minimum prices because of the prudence principle: Always assume that you cannot buy low, and cannot sell for average. If you feel 1337 enough to attempt to sell at max and buy at min, feel free to do so. And, of course, if you mined your own materials, GOOD FOR YOU, your profit is the price of the bar. Just a note, the maximum amount of steel you can make in one go is 9, mithril is 5, adamantite is 4 and RUNITE!!!!!!! is 3(shocker) Thanks to bighairyball for the correction.[/hide] [hide=Levels]Smithing for levels is fairly straightforward. There are three ways to do this: 1. Mining your own materials and making bars, to use a hammer with 2. Buying bars, to use a hammer with 3. The GOLD method (or silver) Method 1: This is the longest method by far, but you get mining experience in the process. Basically, smelt ores which you mine (go look at a mining guide if you don't know which side of a hatchet you catch fish with) and turn those into bars. The ideal place to do so is VARROCK because the anvil is right next to the bank. You need: A hammer of the smithing variety, found in Glomail General Stores nationwide. An anvil. Unfortunately these are glued to the floor, maybe with 9001 strength you can pick it up, but for now you will have to run back and forth. Good fight. A pickaxe. Again, go look at a mining guide. Tips: Make the best that you can. Platebodies are good because you use 5 bars at once, meaning that it takes less time for you to finish smithing. You get experience based on how many bars you used, not what you made. Pros of this method: Can't think of any right now, but I'm sure there are some. Cons: VEEEEEEEERY slow. You make little to no profit unless you mine and refine runite like an Ollyc3. Boring. Method 2: This method involves buying your own bars, and then using them with an anvil to make weapons etc. Pretty much the same as above, minus the mining and plus the buying. MUCH faster. Method 3: The GOLD method. This is a very fast way to train your smithing because you get 2 lots of experience at once. To do the gold method you need at least 40 smithing and 5 crafting. To do the SILVER method you need 20 smithing and 16 crafting. A bit backwards but true nonetheless. How: First, you need a mould. Obviously use the best mould you can from the following: Gold: Level 5: Ring Level 6: Necklace Level 8: Amulet Apparently unstrung gold amulets are high in demand and can be sold to the Grand Exchange, thanks Zaaps1 Silver: Level 16: Holy Symbol Level 23: Tiara So the ideal time to train smithing this way would be AFTER you achieve level 23 crafting. To save money you should only do silver, however gold gives more experience if you don't buy your own bars, which you shouldn't. Now you can either mine your own silver/gold ore, or buy it from the Grand Exchange. Simply take a mould along with 27 ores to a furnace, and make 27 bars. Then use the mould/bar with the furnace and you can create 27 items resulting in crafting experience as well as some smithing experience. Three for two deal? I like it.[/hide] [hide=Profit AND Levels]The meat of this guide. This is by far the best way to train smithing in F2P, but it requires some research and timing on your part, as well as level 43 magic. Beautiful isn't it? Superheat item. Andrew's gift to smithers. But Resonae! Isn't that going against the laws of profit? Nay my friend, simply keep following this one-sided conversation with myself, and see with your own eyes... the wonderful world of... SUPERHEATING WITH PROFIT!!! I will be using mithril as an example because I am doing mithril at the moment, but of course you can apply this sacred knowledge to any bar you like. Lets have a look at the Grand Exchange graph for coal: And mithril ore: You would want to buy at the yellow line. The yellow line indicates a drop in the price of either coal or mithril. The reason for this could be anything from oversupply to underdemand, but it normally only lasts a few days and then returns to normal. Ignore the prudence concept at this point because you are looking for profit rather than efficiency. Lets have a look: (Nature rune) + (Mithril ore) + 4*(Coal) > (Mithril Bar) Now substitute the prices. Assume that you bought all supplies during a fall, as in the pictures above. (200) + (220) + 4*(174) > 1135 1116 > 1135 TRUE!!! So how do you get all three things to fall at the same time? You don't. The method for doing this is to stockpile materials whenever they fall. Nature runes will most likely be the last to drop, coal is normally stable but can fall at times, and mithril, adamantite and runite are extremely unstable. If you are waiting for nature runes to start falling, then it is a good idea to start using the Smithing for Profit method in the first hide tag, or do something else. Generally you would not spend all your money on the materials unless you planned to use the Profit method in the first place. Whenever you see the opportunity, pounce on it and you will win. Tips for superheating: I will only cover mithril and above because those are the only ores you should be superheating. Mithril: Then your inventory will be as the first picture. Rinse (your mouth out with dirty water) and repeat. For the sake of not having MORE oversized images, I will use words from now on. Adamantite: The first slot should be for your nature runes, as per usual. Next comes a lump of coal. I have it from a very reliable source that Santa gives these out to naughty children... maybe younger smithers should look to Santa to provide their coal. Next comes 9 adamant bars. Fill up with coal. Superheat 3 bars, withdraw coal, repeat. Thanks to BiJay for the above tip. Runite: The first 7 slots should contain junk and nature runes. The next 2 should be bars from your last batch. Withdraw-2 ore, deposit the bars and Withdraw-All coal. For neatness fill the last 3 slots with junk. If you don't mind having to move your mouse you should definitely withdraw 3 runite ores. In fact, with only 3 ores moving your mouse hardly matters.[/hide] Yes I know this guide looks ugly, dont hate me for it. I didn't do art, it's not my fault! Honest! kthxbai

As the Grand Exchange would say; Too High! Or in layman's terms R2147483648. LAYMAN's terms. Yeah.

Oh MRKy u so fine u so fine u blow my mind go MRKy! Go MRKy!

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Obviously.

22/7. It's just that good.

Sorry, no. Resonae?

Banned because it was my pet.

There is no reason for snare and air wave in F2P. Why are you even asking for air wave if you are using BOLT spells? The point is to attack from afar, not to wait until they're attacking you before you bind. Mage is fine as it is if you use a little strategy. This should go in rants unless you have a real suggestion?

People think this and assume the ring increased your chances of ANY rare drop compared to normal drops. This is false. The Knowledge Base explains it better. As you can see from the statement above, the ring does NOT INCREASE your chance to get a rare drop in your overall drops, but rather increases the chance your rare drop will be more valuable, if you happen to spin a rare drop in the first place. As much as I hate to disagree with you, your quote contradicts your claim. It doesn't say that it increases "thy" chances of gaining a MORE VALUABLE object on the second wheel, just the chances of getting one at all.

I'm fairly certain he's not being mean, he's just trying to help you. Fairly certain.

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AMG LIEZ I DO THIS AND NOTHING HAPPEN LIEK OMGWTF U NUB STOP LYING ON THESE FORUMS ONLY TROLLS IS ALLOW TO LIE!!@@@@@ Nice story, what do we discuss? The story or the characters?

I like cooking because FoodIsGood. Sorry. Had to. Cooking is a nooby skill yes, but as far as roleplay goes it's fun. And rewarding.

Well thought out, nicely structured argument :thumbup: Not really much to add to it, I agree with what you're saying for the most part, but RuneScape has to be about luck in some ways. It doesn't have to be dragon weapons or armour, and you have stated why it shouldn't, but if everything were available at a shop then we would lose those feelings we get when we find a good drop. Also, the economy benefits from having some things as part of drops by letting cash flow. If everything was cheap, all the money would be hoarded on a few accounts until cheap actually meant expensive.

Roleplay.

I wear what looks epic because it looks epic, I hardly ever train combat anyway. Sure it might cost a few mil but at least I won't look generic.