Demoli

So, i need a replacement for that DD Onono. While it sometimes does okay (and some times he's a friggin beast, it OHKOs Gliscor at +1 with rivalry), he just isn't up to par. Currently trying mence, but it doesn't shine either. I need a set up sweeper fort hat role. Any suggestions? (just one nitpick please, don't suggest vulcarona, It'd require a spinner, and my team doesn't have that much problems with hazards yet.)

I know it's a DS game, but i, for reasons beyond my current understanding (most likely peer pressure from my basic school years), i bought a psp instead, so for me to play Pokemon Black (reshiram <3) i'll have to wait for the 3DS. And don't worry, you will really not see a single oldy until the after game.

Yeah, i'm unable to play pokemon until get a 3DS, i already know my team though: Samurott, galvantula, krookodile, Hihidaruma, Scrafty and either Golurk or Leavanny. In the competitive scene, i've returned to PO, only to find my user reset <.< Changed my team, i now use: [hide] Aloe (Rotom-W) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 56 HP / 252 SAtk / 200 SDef Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Volt Change - Hydro Pump - Trick - Shadow Ball Beyblade (Nattorei) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 100 HP / 252 Def / 156 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Power Whip - Stealth Rock - Thunder Wave - Leech Seed ColinFirth (Gliscor) (M) @ Toxic Orb Trait: Poison Heal EVs: 152 HP / 52 Atk / 252 Def / 52 Spd Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Taunt - Ice Fang - Swords Dance Penelope (Garchomp) (F) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Sand Veil EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def) - Fire Blast - Earthquake - Outrage - Facade Hax'r'us (Ononokusu) (M) @ Yache Berry Trait: Rivalry EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Dance - Outrage - Earthquake - Brick Break Megaman (Latios) (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Trick - Surf - Draco Meteor - Hidden Power [Fire] [/hide]

Boooooo, they changed the title music, what was wrong with the original RS music? :( I really enjoyed the quest though, it still exhibits one major flaw, it leaves you in the dark completely. It's not bad for a quest/game to leave you in the dark, but at least drop a hint or two, even with the book i had to look around a bit more to find out the second puzzle's procedure. Elemental armour also needs a good stat boost, it's just ridiculously weak compared to... anything and it takes an unreasonable ammount of time to make the full set.

Finished Final Fantasy 6, would easily move it to number 3 on my best games list now i replayed it again, it still keeps the charm and i actually found more tidbits of history this time around (Shadow's story in particular). Now lookin for another RPG to play, any suggestions? It can be everything but Chrono Trigger, or any other DS RPG, i'm DS-less til the 3DS comes out (plus, my R... magic DS isn't working well lately).

In honour of your pimpoleon, I've also recently tested, to great success, an awesome shedinja set: S0u1E4t3r, Eater of Souls Killer nature 252Doom, 252 Fear, 4 Chance to run Life Orb -Double Edge -Death Gambit -Sandstorm -Harden EV's are so your oponent can die of fear instantly by seeing this set! Double edge demolishes any kind of wall with Life orb helping it out, as if it needed! Death Gambit makes your oponent play russian roulet... with a sniper! Sandstorm traps your enemy into a cage of fear who can't be broken! After the deed is done, harden is for the afterparty with other female shedinjas. . . . . . You're better at this :lol:

Decided to take a break from Pokemon online and play Final Fantasy 6 again, still awesome :thumbup:

Dangerous Clan vs Clan still has it uses, but dangerous FFa is pretty useless considering there are already high risk wildy worlds. I'm all for the removal :thumbup:

I see, point taken, but just one little remark: At least with my nattorei, Doryuuzu and Rando, both LO'd, adamant and at+2, NEVER KO natorei from full health, i can always survive to either Power Whip the Balloon(Doryuuzu) or leech seed to limit their sweep (Rando, but rando is easy to handle). Well, my team is still at the same spot, i can't find matches in smogon and in PO i'm trying an antimetagame poke, Dusclops with skill swap. Oh man, doryuuzu, reuniclus and Gliscor love soooooo much loosing their abilities :twisted:

Still, nattorei can block most of the rain abusers, has his fire weakness halved and can easily beat Dugtrio with a power whip unless it has taken a lot of punishment.

Round 3 of bans has started and the discussion thread is open, man from recent battles i hope Doryuzzu goes to ubers on this one, he is just too strong. Landlos won't be banned for sure, the glitch did have a huge difference in it's power. Before i could OHKO nattorei at +2 with SS boosted EQ, now it always survives, seeding me and limiting my sweep. On Latios, i really don't know. Everyone seems to have a pursuit user so it's really hard to play him around, and if the other team has a tyranitar, yeah, your latios ain't going no where fast. Doryuzzu on the other hand, requires a lot of thinking ahead, and when the other team has other various threats you just can't keep up. Also, i really feel what 4-moveslot syndrome is now: My jirachi would be way better with an extra moveslot: Wish, t-wave, Iron head and trick are good, but I'd love an extra slot for Hidden power water or Fire Blast.

Lost in Shadow/ A shadow's tale is a really great game aswell, even if it's pacing is a bit awkward. Other than that, nothing really springs to mind. Panzer Dragoon and Shantae are also good but relatively unknown.

Isn't this already included in the "Which games are you currently playing" thread?

Well dang! I've been focusing on my Scarf Chomp+ SD Landlos and it works awesomely! First i was just screwing around, trying a new team on smogon for a change (since the PO server is filled with rain teams), then i rememebred to check my ranking. (21:34:41) +RankingBot: Your rank in Standard OU is 29/22560! 1362 Holy Dang, i never thought i was doing so well o_O My team now: [hide]Eadgar (Hippowdon) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sand Stream EVs: 200 HP / 160 Atk / 148 Def Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Stealth Rock - Ice Fang - Slack Off Beyblade (Nattorei) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 100 HP / 252 Def / 156 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Power Whip - Spikes - Thunder Wave - Leech Seed Primadonna (Jirachi) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 200 HP / 252 SDef / 56 Spd Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Thunder Wave - Wish - Trick - Iron Head Penelope (Garchomp) (F) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Sand Veil EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) - Dragon Claw - Earthquake - Outrage - Fire Fang John Cleese (Randorosu) (M) @ Wide Lens Trait: Sand Power EVs: 4 HP / 200 Atk / 52 SAtk / 252 Spd Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef) - Hidden Power [ice] - Earthquake - Swords Dance - Stone Edge Megaman (Latios) (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk) - Psycho Shock - Surf - Draco Meteor - Hidden Power [Fire] [/hide] Please give suggestions for Garchomp's set (or any other for that matter), really looking for backup here :unsure: Edit: won my first tourn :) [hide] Battle between egotist and Demoli started! Tier: Standard OU Rule: Unrated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Freeze Clause Rule: Species Clause Demoli sent out Eadgar! (Hippowdon) egotist sent out Tyranitar! The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm! Phippsy is watching the battle. CM. is watching the battle. Haunter is watching the battle. Bp. is watching the battle. Demoli: good luck man DNT6Mallard is watching the battle. Start of turn 1 The foe's Tyranitar used Ice Beam! It's super effective! Eadgar lost 232 HP! (57% of its health) Eadgar used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around egotist's team! The sandstorm rages! Eadgar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! egotist: u2 J-Djinn is watching the battle. Start of turn 2 Demoli called Eadgar back! Demoli sent out Primadonna! (Jirachi) The foe's Tyranitar used Ice Beam! It's not very effective... Primadonna lost 28 HP! (7% of its health) The sandstorm rages! Start of turn 3 egotist called Tyranitar back! egotist sent out [bleep]nattorei! (Forretress) Pointed stones dug into the foe's [bleep]nattorei! Primadonna used Thunder Wave! The foe's [bleep]nattorei is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The sandstorm rages! Start of turn 4 Demoli called Primadonna back! Demoli sent out John Cleese! (Randorosu) The foe's [bleep]nattorei used Toxic Spikes! Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Demoli's team! The sandstorm rages! Start of turn 5 John Cleese used Swords Dance! John Cleese's Attack sharply rose! The foe's [bleep]nattorei used Gyro Ball! -Sandman- is watching the battle. John Cleese lost 186 HP! (58% of its health) The sandstorm rages! Start of turn 6 John Cleese used Earthquake! The foe's [bleep]nattorei lost 81% of its health! The foe's [bleep]nattorei used Gyro Ball! John Cleese lost 133 HP! (41% of its health) John Cleese fainted! The sandstorm rages! Demoli sent out Penelope! (Garchomp) Penelope was poisoned! Start of turn 7 Penelope used Dragon Claw! It's not very effective... A critical hit! The foe's [bleep]nattorei lost 5% of its health! The foe's [bleep]nattorei fainted! The sandstorm rages! Penelope is hurt by poison! egotist sent out Salamence! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Salamence! The foe's Salamence intimidates Penelope! Penelope's Attack fell! Start of turn 8 egotist called Salamence back! egotist sent out Chansey! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Chansey! Penelope used Dragon Claw! The foe's Chansey lost 18% of its health! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Penelope is hurt by poison! Start of turn 9 Demoli called Penelope back! Demoli sent out Primadonna! (Jirachi) The foe's Chansey used Wish! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 10 Primadonna used Trick! Primadonna switched items with the foe's Chansey! Primadonna obtained one Evolution Stone! The foe's Chansey obtained one Choice Scarf! The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Primadonna lost 100 HP! (25% of its health) Chansey's wish came true! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 11 Primadonna used Thunder Wave! The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Primadonna lost 100 HP! (25% of its health) The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 12 egotist called Chansey back! egotist sent out sharktopus! (Garchomp) Pointed stones dug into the foe's sharktopus! Primadonna used Iron Head! The foe's sharktopus lost 23% of its health! The sandstorm rages! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 13 Demoli called Primadonna back! Demoli sent out Megaman! (Latios) The foe's sharktopus used Substitute! The foe's sharktopus made a substitute! The sandstorm rages! Megaman is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 14 Demoli called Megaman back! Demoli sent out Beyblade! (Nattorei) The foe's sharktopus used Dragon Claw! It's not very effective... Beyblade lost 39 HP! (12% of its health) Beyblade's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's sharktopus The sandstorm rages! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 15 The foe's sharktopus used Swords Dance! The foe's sharktopus's Attack sharply rose! Beyblade used Power Whip! The foe's sharktopus's substitute faded! The sandstorm rages! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 16 The foe's sharktopus used Substitute! The foe's sharktopus made a substitute! Beyblade used Power Whip! The attack of Beyblade missed! The sandstorm rages! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! S p a r t a is watching the battle. Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 17 The foe's sharktopus used Swords Dance! The foe's sharktopus's Attack sharply rose! Beyblade used Power Whip! The foe's sharktopus's substitute faded! The sandstorm rages! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 18 The foe's sharktopus used Earthquake! Beyblade lost 288 HP! (91% of its health) Beyblade used Power Whip! The foe's sharktopus lost 37% of its health! The sandstorm rages! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 19 Demoli called Beyblade back! Demoli sent out Megaman! (Latios) The foe's sharktopus used Dragon Claw! It's super effective! Megaman lost 283 HP! (94% of its health) Megaman fainted! The sandstorm rages! The foe's sharktopus restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Demoli sent out Penelope! (Garchomp) Start of turn 20 Penelope used Dragon Claw! It's super effective! The foe's sharktopus lost 20% of its health! The foe's sharktopus fainted! The sandstorm rages! Penelope is hurt by poison! egotist sent out Chansey! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Chansey! Start of turn 21 Penelope used Dragon Claw! The foe's Chansey lost 41% of its health! The foe's Chansey used Wish! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Penelope is hurt by poison! Start of turn 22 Demoli called Penelope back! Demoli sent out Primadonna! (Jirachi) The foe's Chansey used Wish! But it failed! Chansey's wish came true! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 23 egotist called Chansey back! egotist sent out Salamence! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Salamence! The foe's Salamence intimidates Primadonna! Primadonna's Attack fell! Primadonna used Thunder Wave! The foe's Salamence is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 24 Primadonna used Iron Head! The foe's Salamence lost 22% of its health! The foe's Salamence flinched! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 25 Primadonna used Iron Head! The foe's Salamence lost 15% of its health! The foe's Salamence fainted! The sandstorm rages! egotist sent out Hitmonlee! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Hitmonlee! Start of turn 26 Demoli called Primadonna back! Demoli sent out Beyblade! (Nattorei) The foe's Hitmonlee used Hi Jump Kick! It's super effective! Beyblade lost 45 HP! (14% of its health) Beyblade's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Hitmonlee Beyblade fainted! The foe's Hitmonlee is hurt by its Life Orb! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Hitmonlee is buffeted by the sandstorm! Demoli sent out Eadgar! (Hippowdon) Eadgar was poisoned! Start of turn 27 The foe's Hitmonlee used Hi Jump Kick! The attack of the foe's Hitmonlee missed! The foe's Hitmonlee kept going and crashed! The foe's Hitmonlee lost 49% of its health! Eadgar used Slack Off! Eadgar regained health! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Hitmonlee is buffeted by the sandstorm! Eadgar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Eadgar is hurt by poison! Start of turn 28 The foe's Hitmonlee used Hi Jump Kick! Eadgar lost 219 HP! (53% of its health) The foe's Hitmonlee is hurt by its Life Orb! The foe's Hitmonlee fainted! Eadgar used Slack Off! Eadgar regained health! The sandstorm rages! Eadgar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Eadgar is hurt by poison! egotist sent out Tyranitar! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Tyranitar! Start of turn 29 The foe's Tyranitar used Ice Beam! It's super effective! Eadgar lost 254 HP! (62% of its health) Eadgar used Earthquake! It's super effective! The foe's Tyranitar lost 87% of its health! The foe's Tyranitar fainted! The sandstorm rages! Eadgar restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Eadgar is hurt by poison! egotist sent out Chansey! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Chansey! Demoli: gg Start of turn 30 The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Eadgar lost 38 HP! (9% of its health) Eadgar fainted! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Demoli sent out Primadonna! (Jirachi) Start of turn 31 Primadonna used Thunder Wave! The foe's Chansey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Primadonna lost 100 HP! (25% of its health) The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 32 Primadonna used Iron Head! The foe's Chansey lost 30% of its health! The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Primadonna lost 63 HP! (16% of its health) Primadonna fainted! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Demoli sent out Penelope! (Garchomp) Start of turn 33 Penelope used Earthquake! The foe's Chansey lost 9% of its health! The foe's Chansey fainted! Demoli won the battle! Demoli: ... egotist: Crushing defeat! My navel has dried! egotist: gg Bp. stopped watching the battle. [/hide]

1) Even though Blissey has crappy Defence stat (lol, 10), her HP is so freaking huge it can tank some hits with 252/252 impish/any other defence boosting nature. Her SpA tankign rights are beyond amazing. 2)Blissey also gets toxic and T-Wave, and as you said a better healing move in the form of softboiled and wish. And do not forget Aromatherapy/Heal Bell, which cures your entire team of status (and is often my doom since i play a lot with paralisis). Plus they get Natural cure, a boon for a defensive wall. 3) Agreed, even though versitality isn't only that. Blissey can survive a pursuit if she's at full health. If Tyra comes in on the Wish, she can protect and change next turn. Really, the only advantage Cresselia has over Blissey is her higher Def stat and Levitate, while Blissey has aromatherapy and, most importantly, reliable recovery. Sure, there you go. [hide]Team Overview In Depth Eadgar (Hippowdon) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sand Stream EVs: 188 HP / 160 Atk / 160 Def Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Earthquake - Stealth Rock - Ice Fang - Slack Off Hippowdon is my usual lead, he sets up rocks and sandstorm and can take hits quite well. Slack Off is recovery of course, EQ is for stab and Ice Fang is for those pesky dragons. I've tinkered with tyranitar for a while, but i ended choosing Hippo due to better defences and more durability. Primadonna (Jirachi) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Serene Grace EVs: 200 HP / 56 Def / 252 SDef Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk) - Thunder Wave - Wish - Trick - Iron Head Rachi is my backup lead. Trick cripples walls such as Blissey, Burungero and Skarmory who think they can come in scoff free. It also gives the middle finger to Evolution stone users. Thunder Wave is probably my team's biggest asset, lowering speeds dramaticly, essential for Latios or Landlos coming in later on and set up without much need for speed. Iron Head is here simply for lack of better support option. Wish grants my entire team some sort of recovery. Apart from these roles, Primadonna is also my team's special wall, in particular ice moves, my bane of existence. Beyblade (Nattorei) (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Iron Barbs EVs: 100 HP / 252 Def / 156 SDef Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) - Power Whip - Spikes - Thunder Wave - Leech Seed Quite honestly my biggest player, Nattorei is quite simply amazing. I use it more as a leech seed annoyer and paralisis spreader rather than Spiker. Fire types tend to switch in a lot, and thanks to that i prefer to Thunder wave more often than leech seed and spikes. Only after i feel relatively safe do I start stacking them needles. Power Whip is there to counter even more water types and to break some balloons. Legretta (Doryuuzu) (F) @ Chople Berry Trait: Sand Throw EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Rapid Spin - Earthquake - Frustration - Swords Dance I've tried to stay away from Dory, i really did. I've tried Garchomp, Heatran, Flygon, a toxic Spikes variation of Nidoking (which worked ok), hell even a Rhyperior was tested (with also surprising results). But in the end, i needed a rapid spinner and another Physical threat in my team. Dory was the obvious solution. Rapid Spin to send hazards away, since they hurt 4/6 pokes in my team. Swords Dance on the switch and wreck avoc from there. EQ is stab and Frustration is for neutral coverage. Now, i run a chople berry just in case a mach puncher appears, but since i haven't seen any recently, I've been thinking on running a different item, I'd like some feedback on this please. John Cleese (Randorosu) (M) @ Choice Scarf Trait: Sand Power EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def) - Hidden Power [ice] - Earthquake - U-turn - Stone Edge Since the beggining I've liked this guy, I used to run a Double Dance set with him, to great success, but i've found the scarf set more and more appealing overtime. EQ tears appart everything, U-Turn scouts and doesn't let Celebi loose. Stone Edge is for coverage and HP Ice is for Gliscor, who is increasingly popular. He is very frail however, so i need t rely on wish passing to keep him aline for extended periods. MegaMan (Latios) (M) @ Choice Specs Trait: Levitate EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Psycho Shock - Hidden Power [Fire] - Draco Meteor - Surf Specs Latios is just too strong. No wonder he's called the blue bomber! DM kills everything not named blissey, tyranitar and Steel types (and even then you need some bulky ones). I tend to be conservative with this guy when i see a Tyranitar on the oposing team, and if any other pursuiter is at bay i use HP fire to scout. Surf is there for some very restricted situations, like Heatran and other Steels. I used to run Tbolt instead, btu skarmory is becoming scarcer the day it seems. Psycho Shock is to beat Blissey/Chancey, even though the last one needs to be tricked out of it's Stone. Battle Strategy Really simple in fact. Check the oponent's team and decide optimal lead. Anything weak to ground or that Hippo can take and i lead with him, otherwise Rachi gets loose. On very rare ocasions, i lead with Latios to net a free kill (abcence of Steels/blissey) or with Landlos (scouting). From there on, i try to set up rocks and spread paralisis in the best way possible. After enough is spread, time to bring the big guns. Latios forces a lot of switches racking up entry damage. Landlos demolishes whatever comes in if predicted correctly, and works wonders as a cleaner. Dory clears the field and is a strong Set-upper and Rachi likes to flinch a lot. Nattorei also forces switches, and with some prediction i can score free Leech Seeds. Very rarely i tend to use Natto as a pseudo shield due to iron barbs, but it's really situational. (rxamples include Flinchachi). [/hide] Please keep in minds i'm still finding a good guy on my last spot (that's dory). I've been tinkering with Breloom and Terakion, and changing Landlos to a dual dancer and letting my scarfer be Chomp, but i never seem to test them ok. When i needed terakion for the victory, i'm using chomp and same the other way around, frustrating.....

Blissey (and chansey for that matter) are still the go-to special walls. Only physical ubers can wreck her, and while specs blue fire doesn some heavy damage, you must still notice that in OU she still gets her job done and more. Yeah, Reuniclus can wall stuff too, specially after some Calm minds, but he can't cure your team's status nor heal a team mate for 350~ HP. Both Chansey and Blissey are, to this day, the best special walls in the game, bar ubers (where it could still be debateable versus Lugia and Giratina). On the note of Psycho Shock (since Break is for mewtwo in ubers), Specs Latios can't 0HKO a 252/0 impish blissey without either some heavy entrance damage or a crit, and i talk from experience (unless everybody started to use 252/252 calm blissey). I can agree that, however, Chansey takes hits better. It can't use special attacks though, sicne it's SpA is too low. Also, apart from Gliscor and Nattorei, Blissey is the guy i most see in high ranked matches.

If you mean Gen 4 UU, the only thing i can remember is Heracross going down to UU, as for Gen 5, Smogon is still judging the Tiers. In a related note, I've been also trying a double dancing Terakion and it eats faces. Really.

I took a shot at using this zapdos at a new stall team i'm working for casual use/tournments and it did wonders to any kind of team: Zapdos@Leftovers Modest 200SpA, 252 HP, 56 SpD Pressure -Roost -Toxic -T-Bolt/Thunder (when i use it in rain stall teams) -Freefall Toxic anything, then use Freefall on it. 3 turns of toxic are guaranteed if you succeed on freefalling the same poke. The 200 SpA EVs+Modest is to do some heavy damage on steels. Works really great, couple it with Nattorei for spikes and SR since it forces quite a few switches. Skarmory also works as a physical variant of this.

In all honesty, i prefer this new metagame to Gen IV's (at least late gen IV), Gen 4 was jsut so boring, you had to have a check for everything and play it accordingly. With Gen V on the other hand, team building is much harder to try and accomplish, but it's also much more rewarding in the end. Team preview also adds another layer of strategy, to not only surprise, but to outpredict your opponent with obscure sets both on regular pokes and NU gimmicks. Dream world is another aspect of team building i love, and while there are certain threats that are downright annoying (Latis, Dory, Nattorei and Chan/Blissey, Metagross and Gliscor), once you have your team and style of play figured out, you can succeed even with the most unorthodox team. These aspects combined show a deeper layer of strategy then the previous "Oh, a Scizor, let me switch to hippowdon/Machamp/Heatran, outpredict a switch and keep on going". Gen V ftw! :thumbup:

Ya, azumarril is amazing this meta, but it gets stopped cold by Lati@s, or a well predicted Nattorei. Plus, after several switch ins, it'll get it's health witted down. I also made my first RMT, I'm open for suggestions apart from a few cores (Landlos, Latios and Nattorei are staying). BTW, my ranking so far: (20:49:16) +RankingBot: Your rank in Standard OU is 121/21680! 120-demoli-1314 Doing better than expected :P Edit: (21:07:35) +RankingBot: Your rank in Standard OU is 100/21685! Yay top 100 :) :)

I've been dying to use shubarugo, but i just can't place it in my team. Hippo is a great physical wall who can screw dragons over with ice fang and also counter Dory, jirachi spreads T-Wave, tricks scarfs into walls and greedy set-uppers, passes wealthy wishes and flinches til he dies, Landlos is an increadible scouter and revenge killer and late game cleaner, Nattorei is single handedly my best player, spreads t-wave into fire guys who otherwise threaten my team, spikes, leech seed and power whip for rain abusers and stallers, Dory sets up and sweeps, plus rapid spins hazards and Latios is the blue bomber of doom (i'm so changing my latios' name to megaman now), i seem to have reached a erasonable balance between offence powerhouses and defensive pivots, i guess Shubarugo may have to sit my team out :mellow: Also, on Frustration on my Dory: At first, i used return, but when i needed it, i found out PO doesn't have the happiness level at a default of 200, causing it to inflict a massive 1% damage on a dragonite. Thankfully i had the fighting resist berry, resisted the Superpower, and changed to my nattorei so he could die of iron barbs. Anyways, i ended up so mad I changed return to frustration, to mimic what i felt :lol: In comparison to other moves: Brick Break is too situational, X-Scissor only hits psychics hard, but not hard enough to outweight EQ's, Rock Slide hits Levitators and Flying types, but the only notable flying types I've been seeing are Dragons and Gliscor/Skarmory, Skarmory walls Dory to oblivion anyways and Gliscor takes it extra hard from Return/Frustration, Dragons are usually frail anyway, and when they switch in i'm usually at +2 so it doesn't matter. So yeah, it's a well rounded move, and it usually works, so hey why not? (It also has a chance to KO'ing Landlos after Rocks, which is a huge plus).

(19:31:18) +RankingBot: Your rank in Standard OU is 153/20847! 1285 ranking Yeah, i've finally gave in and i'm now using a Dory in my team. Adamant, 252 Spe and Att, Equake, rapid spin, Frustration and Swords dance. It's kinda cheap yes, but i'm tired ofother dorys coming in and having a field day with me. Plus, the thing that really sold it to me was rapid spin, i really needed one on my team and i wasn't feeling like trading rachi for a claydol. Yeah, i liked Nidoking, but i guess paralisis is better for me than poison :mellow:

I've done some tinkering with my team: Latios traded roost for HP fire and Tbolt for Surf, since Skarmories have been rarer and rarer these days. And possibly my best trade: Garchomp for a Nidoking@lifeorb Encourage, modest 252 SpA, 56 Spe, 100 on Def and rest on Hp, Toxic Spikes, Ice Beam, Fire Blast and Earth Power. Nidoking is a freaking beast! Even with little Spe investment it ouspeeds the walls it wants to break, sets up spikes and generally rocks because it's a nidoking. Also, i think i now consider myself a great nattorei player :P [hide] Battle between Demoli and Aoko started! Tier: Standard OU Variation: +6, -25 Rule: Rated Rule: Sleep Clause Rule: Freeze Clause Rule: Species Clause Rule: Wifi Battle Aoko sent out Dragonite! Demoli sent out Primadonna! (Jirachi) Start of turn 1 Primadonna used Trick! Primadonna switched items with the foe's Dragonite! Primadonna obtained one Choice Band! The foe's Dragonite obtained one Choice Scarf! The foe's Dragonite used Fire Punch! It's super effective! Primadonna lost 178 HP! (45% of its health) Start of turn 2 The foe's Dragonite used Fire Punch! It's super effective! Primadonna lost 192 HP! (49% of its health) Primadonna used Thunder Wave! The foe's Dragonite is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! Start of turn 3 Demoli called Primadonna back! Demoli sent out Eadgar! (Hippowdon) Eadgar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm! The foe's Dragonite is paralyzed! It can't move! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 4 Aoko called Dragonite back! Aoko sent out Nattorei! Eadgar used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around Aoko's team! The sandstorm rages! Start of turn 5 Demoli called Eadgar back! Demoli sent out Primadonna! (Jirachi) The foe's Nattorei used Leech Seed! Primadonna was seeded! The sandstorm rages! Primadonna's health is sapped by leech seed. Primadonna fainted! Demoli sent out Ritchard! (Nidoking) Start of turn 6 Aoko called Nattorei back! Aoko sent out Chansey! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Chansey! Ritchard used Toxic Spikes! Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Aoko's team! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 7 Ritchard used Toxic Spikes! Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Aoko's team! The foe's Chansey used Wish! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 8 Ritchard used Fire Blast! The foe's Chansey lost 17% of its health! The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Ritchard lost 100 HP! (33% of its health) Chansey's wish came true! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 9 Demoli called Ritchard back! Demoli sent out Beyblade! (Nattorei) The foe's Chansey used Seismic Toss! Beyblade lost 100 HP! (31% of its health) Beyblade's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Chansey The sandstorm rages! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 10 Aoko called Chansey back! Aoko sent out Latios! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Latios! Beyblade used Leech Seed! The foe's Latios was seeded! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Latios is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Latios's health is sapped by leech seed. Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 11 Demoli called Beyblade back! Demoli sent out Helium! (Latios) The foe's Latios used Hidden Power! It's not very effective... Helium lost 53 HP! (17% of its health) The sandstorm rages! The foe's Latios is buffeted by the sandstorm! Helium is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Latios's health is sapped by leech seed. Start of turn 12 Aoko called Latios back! Aoko sent out Chansey! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Chansey! The foe's Chansey was poisoned! Helium used Psycho Shock! The foe's Chansey lost 41% of its health! The sandstorm rages! Helium is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Chansey is hurt by poison! Start of turn 13 Aoko called Chansey back! Aoko sent out Nattorei! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Nattorei! Helium used Psycho Shock! It's not very effective... The foe's Nattorei lost 17% of its health! The sandstorm rages! Helium is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 14 Demoli called Helium back! Demoli sent out Beyblade! (Nattorei) The foe's Nattorei used Leech Seed! It doesn't affect Beyblade... The sandstorm rages! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 15 Beyblade used Thunder Wave! The foe's Nattorei is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The foe's Nattorei used Stealth Rock! Pointed stones float in the air around Demoli's team! The sandstorm rages! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Nattorei restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 16 Aoko called Nattorei back! Aoko sent out Zuruzukin! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Zuruzukin! The foe's Zuruzukin was poisoned! Beyblade used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Aoko's team! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Zuruzukin is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Zuruzukin restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Zuruzukin is hurt by poison! Start of turn 17 The foe's Zuruzukin used Drain Punch! It's super effective! Beyblade lost 104 HP! (33% of its health) Beyblade had its energy drained! Beyblade's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Zuruzukin Beyblade used Leech Seed! The foe's Zuruzukin was seeded! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Zuruzukin is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Zuruzukin's Shed Skin heals its status! The foe's Zuruzukin restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Zuruzukin's health is sapped by leech seed. Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 18 Aoko called Zuruzukin back! Aoko sent out Latios! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Latios! Beyblade used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Aoko's team! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Latios is buffeted by the sandstorm! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 19 The foe's Latios used Draco Meteor! It's not very effective... Beyblade lost 141 HP! (44% of its health) The foe's Latios's Sp. Att. sharply fell! Beyblade used Thunder Wave! The foe's Latios is paralyzed! It may be unable to move! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Latios is buffeted by the sandstorm! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 20 Aoko called Latios back! Aoko sent out Zuruzukin! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Zuruzukin! The foe's Zuruzukin is hurt by spikes! The foe's Zuruzukin was poisoned! Beyblade used Leech Seed! The foe's Zuruzukin was seeded! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Zuruzukin is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Zuruzukin restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Zuruzukin's health is sapped by leech seed. The foe's Zuruzukin is hurt by poison! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 21 The foe's Zuruzukin used Drain Punch! It's super effective! Beyblade lost 96 HP! (30% of its health) Beyblade had its energy drained! Beyblade's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Zuruzukin Beyblade used Spikes! Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Aoko's team! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Zuruzukin is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Zuruzukin restored a little HP using its Leftovers! The foe's Zuruzukin's health is sapped by leech seed. The foe's Zuruzukin is hurt by poison! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 22 Aoko called Zuruzukin back! Aoko sent out Latios! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Latios! Demoli called Beyblade back! Demoli sent out Ritchard! (Nidoking) Pointed stones dug into Ritchard! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Latios is buffeted by the sandstorm! Start of turn 23 Ritchard used Ice Beam! It's super effective! The foe's Latios lost 8% of its health! The foe's Latios fainted! The sandstorm rages! Aoko sent out Mew! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Mew! The foe's Mew is hurt by spikes! The foe's Mew was poisoned! Start of turn 24 The foe's Mew used Psycho Shock! It's super effective! Ritchard lost 185 HP! (61% of its health) Ritchard fainted! The foe's Mew is hurt by its Life Orb! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Mew is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Mew is hurt by poison! Demoli sent out John Cleese! (Randorosu) Pointed stones dug into John Cleese! Start of turn 25 John Cleese used U-turn! It's super effective! The foe's Mew lost 40% of its health! The foe's Mew fainted! Demoli called John Cleese back! Demoli sent out Helium! (Latios) Pointed stones dug into Helium! The sandstorm rages! Helium is buffeted by the sandstorm! Aoko sent out Zuruzukin! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Zuruzukin! The foe's Zuruzukin is hurt by spikes! The foe's Zuruzukin fainted! Aoko sent out Nattorei! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Nattorei! The foe's Nattorei is hurt by spikes! Start of turn 26 Helium used Hidden Power! It's super effective! The foe's Nattorei lost 64% of its health! The foe's Nattorei fainted! The sandstorm rages! Helium is buffeted by the sandstorm! Aoko sent out Dragonite! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Dragonite! Start of turn 27 Demoli called Helium back! Demoli sent out Beyblade! (Nattorei) Pointed stones dug into Beyblade! The foe's Dragonite used Outrage! It's not very effective... Beyblade lost 74 HP! (23% of its health) Beyblade's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Dragonite The sandstorm rages! The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 28 The foe's Dragonite used Outrage! It's not very effective... Beyblade lost 67 HP! (21% of its health) Beyblade's Iron Barbs hurts the foe's Dragonite Beyblade used Leech Seed! The foe's Dragonite was seeded! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Dragonite's health is sapped by leech seed. The foe's Dragonite calmed down! The foe's Dragonite became confused! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 29 The foe's Dragonite is confused! The foe's Dragonite is paralyzed! It can't move! Beyblade used Power Whip! The attack of Beyblade missed! The sandstorm rages! The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm! The foe's Dragonite's health is sapped by leech seed. Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Start of turn 30 The foe's Dragonite is confused! It hurt itself in its confusion! The foe's Dragonite lost 0% of its health! The foe's Dragonite fainted! Beyblade used Power Whip! But there was no target... The sandstorm rages! Beyblade restored a little HP using its Leftovers! Demoli: gg Aoko sent out Chansey! Pointed stones dug into the foe's Chansey! The foe's Chansey fainted! Demoli won the battle! Demoli: ... Aoko: GG [/hide]

I'm not gona lie, this is awesome.