Stev

Who better to write anti-bot software then the ones who developed them for so long. ;).

So far today (The highlighted bit): 3x Dragon Claws. :).

I'm going to change all my RuneScape goals to one: Beat Jeremy. That's Eidos's goal. As long as he's beating me, he doesn't give a rats. P.S. Moar nudey pics!@

And on top of that, Mod MMG advertises RSbuddy on the RSoF right before Jacmob makes it public that he's working with Jagex. ICWutTheyDidTher.

Yes. Basic market rules. The price of gold has already gone up. Incorrect. Prices to sell high level accounts to companies have dropped by several hundred dollars due to people selling their accounts that they can no longer bot - aka. Quitting RuneScape. Fairly certain I read a quote from Mark on the RSOF (Probably eaten by Page 51) that said he'd offer a Job to a developer if they managed to get a bot up and running with 14 days. I'll dig further. Really [bleep]ing wish I'd seen that post by him sooner. I'd have a job at Jagex. Lol.

Yay! Stev's (Wicked) unbanned from TIF! Let's see how long we last this time. Now, during my nice little break, Ardent Souls did quite a few activities. From Armadyl, to Corporeal beast, to Tormented Demons... Here are some of the rewards. [hide=Trip #3 - (Armadyl Chainskirt)][/hide] [hide=Trip #4 - (Armadyl Hilt - B2b Armadyl Hilts)] [/hide] [hide=Trip #5 - (Spectral Sigil - Divine Sigil)] No Jeremy, this is not the one we were talking about. Lol. [/hide] [hide=Trip #6 - (Elysian Sigil)][/hide] [hide=Trip #7 - (Armadyl Chestplate)][/hide] [hide=Trip #8 - (Dragon Claws - Ruined Dragon Armor Slice - Dragon Claws)][/hide] [hide=Trip #9 - (Dragon Claws - Dragon Claws)][/hide] Note: These are only some of the trips. I have an equal amount of screenshots on my laptop. Should be added sometime. I think I'm missing screenshots of 4 Spectral Sigils, 3 Arcane Sigils, 1 Elysian Sigil, 4 Armadyl Helmets, 4 Armadyl Chestplates, 3 Armadyl Chainskirts... Just off memory. Could be wrong. :P. Our first weekend at Armadyl was epic. We walked out with: 4 Armadyl Hilts, 5 Armadyl Chestplates, 4 Armadyl Chainskirts, 4 Armadyl helmets. Drops were pretty consistent. Feel like joining Ardent Souls? Hope in our CC as a guest. :P.

Probably got an exp reduction? Jagex rarely bans bots anymore. Or just that runetracker is extremely unreliable. :P.

You guys should join Ardent Souls' TD mass tomorrow. (The ones posting the TD pictures).

The loot from the mystery clue from Armadyl. I'll ask again. Does anyone know how I managed to legitimately get an clue while in lootshare? The kill was a minion. lootshare was enabled through the entire kill (And the 80 before hand).

Tormented Demons I'm going to keep this one short and sweet. You may have heard of Ardent Souls. You may have heard how lucky il Foreva li and il Alwayz li are at getting dragon claws. Actually... Any boss drop for that matter. Well, we're once again inviting you to come to Tormented Demons tomorrow! The date and time are October 7th at 6 or 7PM EST. The event will last all night, so at any time you are welcome to come down and join! The friends chat used will probably be il Foreva li. If you join and don't see anyone in there, hop in Ardent Souls CC and have a look! To see what time that is for you, go to this link and type in 7:00PM for Canada - Ontario - Toronto and then select your location for the result. There is no set time that it will begin... Several of us will be there all day before hand anyways. Just join the clan chat Ardent Souls to see where we are. Lootshare!

Ardent Souls at their best again: First, explain this... We were in lootshare. Person who can explain how this happened who's name isn't Jeremy wins... Nothing. Some noob died. :P. And last but not least... Armadyl Hilt. Last kill. :D.

Tries hard not to giggle ... *giggles* Damnit! :lol: I knew I'd see a reply from you as soon as I hit the Add Reply button. Lol. ;).

Doesn't look like a problem with Jagex' server, looked like an upload issue with your net; as you could see and watch, and the server was clearly getting messages from the other players, but wasn't receiving your message to tele. I'm pissed and very sad, TBH. Was excited as hell to see you get nearer to your blue again and refreshed daily in hopes to finally see the screeny of you getting it. If you want, you're welcome to join Ardent Souls anytime to boss hunt with us. We make our members hundreds of millions each month. We'd be more then happy to take you bossing while we have low LSP to ensure you get the drop. It's not much, but ATM it's the most I can offer without my GF raping me. :P. Will talk to her about maybe giving you a loan if you wanted. *Fingers crossed*. But I'll go to duely, win 500M, then when I lose a like 14M bet she flips out. Lol. Go figure. =/ you PAID 60M JUST for a rank? what the hell? Whats stopping me just opening a chat and going "join, but pay me 10m for a rank"? You'd probably die inside if I told you win all day's cc costs 6 bill + 200m/week and is actually closed to buying ranks because too many people did it I was considering his CC, however I've not been watching it long enough. I've not seen them do any really higher bets then Oh Haro Der's CC with exception to a few blue bets... And I'm sure anyone could easily make just as much or more in Haro's CC. What's your opinion on the best/most legit dicing CC and what's your reasoning behind it? I don't want to join one known for scamming. I want one known for friendly people who are completely legit and always pay out.

Most of them have other jobs, yes, but several are also freshly out of college without a real career yet and would jump at the opportunity. Hell, a full-time career making decent money with benefits is better then scripting a few bot clients + scripts making bottom dollar at home. ;).

That's a given. If there's a system set up where people can remotely answer captchas AND answer it quickly enough then there is no counteraction if all you're requiring is correct answer. RS can make this difficult as the answers don't have to be only alpha-numeric (answer to select could be a heart or sword or something else). That'll limit participation in such programs pretty much to only RS players. The question then is does such a system allow such a fast turnaround that it's hard to distinguish it from a player sitting in front of the computer? In not, Jagex just has the accounts that answer to slow to keep getting more and more tests. If the turnaround is fast, well, at the very least you've taken 30 to 60 seconds out of a living person's day. Anyway, based on what Stev's claiming, the best bet is getting hundreds if not thousands of 2d images that were randomly generated using unrealeased 3d models. Each image can have dozens of questions. It shouldn't be too difficult to constantly generate and update the captcha with new images and questions as it's done automatically. First you have to think whether or not Jagex really wants all bots gone; If they really want a detection system that could keep the number of bots so low that they'd need no anti-cheat department except the few people that write the software. Let's incorrectly assume that they did want to scrap half of their income... No, there best bet would not be the 2D models as you've explained. And models can not be unreleased as explained above. Hell, there's been models of D Kites and D Crossbows in the model list for years! Since WGS! There best bet is to do as many other major companies have done (eBay, anyone?). They should fire or transfer their current employees (Don't get me started on that joke of an employee Carlos) and hire those that are able to beat and bypass their anti-cheat systems with only a few minutes work. Hire the people that are currently getting paid bottom-dollar for their bots clients and scripts and put them to work. No one knows more about it then the ones getting paid to bypass it. Hire the people currently getting paid to quite easily bypass their systems. Kinda reminds me of an old movie I rewatched recently; Blue Streak. Who would make the best cop/detective? An ex-con.

you PAID 60M JUST for a rank? what the hell? Whats stopping me just opening a chat and going "join, but pay me 10m for a rank"? The fact that he made 250M in 3 hours tells me it was a trusted CC with trusted ranks. You could open your CC, but I doubt anyone would bet any more then 2M on you. Paying 60M for a rank is extremely good considering some CCs are 1B-2B for general.

Which FC was that? I've been diving out of my own.

Doing TDs earlier for effigies resulted in: Ardent Souls at their best again... Now taking down Armadyl: I'll start you off with an LOL moment. Since I get in [cabbage] for calling people bots... This completely legitimate player accidentally entered the boss room when the Avansie he was after moved right as he clicked. Being the legitimate player that he was, didn't turn on his prayer or teleport. As it turns out, this legitimate player had accidentally equipped a plain diamond ring... Instead of a ring of life. He dropped 60K adamant bolts, only 64 adamantite bars, Zamorak vambraces, and... His Armadyl skirt... We forgot to pick up the alch runes. 200 Adamant Bolts: Dragon Dagger: Godsword Shard 1: Godsword Shard 3: Armadyl Helmet: Armadyl Helmet: Armadyl Chestplate: Armadyl Chestplate: The 2 helmets were yesterday. We actually got 3, but I failed to screenshot one. Also failed to screenshot an Armadyl skirt drop. Todays trip was 2 chestplates, 1 skirt, 1 shard.

NukeMarine, You would be surprised how much can be done through a bot client. As I said, any and all data can be retrieved from RuneScape. There are only a limited number of questions that can be asked. Jagex would use a random combination of: x letter on the x body or armor piece of x character doing x emote behind the character performing x emote. A bot could figure that our rather easily. They can get the textures from each model in the random. They can tell what each player/NPC/model is wearing. They can tell a model's position in the game relative to another. There may be hundreds of thousands of possible random questions, but there will be a pattern for each. Even if it was: What is the number on the cape of the woman which is on the other side of the interface of the clapping man who's wearing a blue robe. Add 5 to this number. Well, quite easily done. The bot sees "woman" and "other side". Which woman model has the furthest distance from a "man" model doing a "clapping" emote with "blue robes"? You don't think a bot could do that? All of that information is easily retrieved. If Jagex has the capability of coding such randoms, using something that can get all data necessary from the RuneScape applet, a program can be written to recognize and solve such patterns.

Really? What use will it be to take a screen shot when the 3d models with the letters are rotating in and out of view in addition to having to individually enter letters on a pad similar to the bank pin set up? Of course a human can solve it, and many OCR programs can decode standard CAPTCHAS now. But tell me a program that can reasonably get that info I describe to the real world captcha solvers? Bot clients can retrieve any and all data from RuneScape. They could retrieve the 3d model, the texture used on it, and the question. There's no software for it yet (because it doesn't exist obviously), but all it'd take is a few bot developers to get a few randoms and there'd be a anti-random for that in a heart-beat. :). Dozens of models wouldn't help much either. You can download and view every model used on RuneScape, without getting the random, through various readily available softwares.

Lol only 5m. And just for the record, I gave back all of Stevs stuff. :rolleyes: Not many would have had the balls to hand back a total of what?... 850M+? Especially after actually winning it. :P. Thanks m8! I pity the next person you dice. Lol.

"Friend Chat channel-mate il Alwayz li rolled 92 on the percentile dice." He put up Santa Hat + all the winnings and [cabbage] you see there... And still pulled off his like 25th win in a row. That's why. Lol.

You assume I'm cleaned? Again, far from. :). Was only about 800M I think he got.

At least I'm legit. Lol. And no, not cleaned. Not close. :P.

Omfg. Losing streak much. [bleep]ing you're winning 10+ in a row on me. -.-