I thought the kids didn't die? And, wow, you're [bleep] kidding me. This is why I hate the internet. People trying to be "different" flaunting their extreme(ly arrogant) views in your face, everyone thinking theirs is the golden way, that organized government is evil... And do you know how long 15 years is? Because it seems like everyone in these threads doesn't. They didn't die, I was referring to another case on BBC news at the minute that shows the failure of our justice system. And yes I do know that 15 years is a long time, longer than I have lived, but I also know that the man who was killed had about 45 years left to live (presuming he dies around the life expectancy) and that was not including the other murders he committed, plus the effects this will give to his family and friends.