No this is the current technique (i'm almost positive as it was on the guide i looked up) and it is the way that i use to get through all of the waves till jad. I fail and just can't get the hang of it and have failed three times not even getting to jad each time. I used the claw rock but i either made a mistake that was obvious (too close to 360, forgot mage pray didn't kill 90 etc). However I think that this is still a viable method, as for Muggi's guide, you can easily get to the spots to prepare for jad by using the claw rock. good luck on getting the cape! :thumbsup: Thanks! I've just got to remember to use longrange if I have a 360/90 trapped behind a 180, and look west. Good luck to you too! For prayer switching, I find it easier to just keep on mage, and switch to range when needed. It is insanely easy to see the range attack. My problem is switching back to mage.