Matt_Marche

If you started woodcutting say, at the start of your freshmen year of hs, you'd get 200m wc just by afking ivy as you do essays,etc. On the computer. Not exactly the hardest thing to do.

I concur with my fellow efficient slayers.

That is honestly so cool. I'd love to see a monster like corp appear in a major city and have the players team up on it! :D

If you're looking to train, rapier will be better regardless of your stats. PvM is nigh futile without near maxed stats, so the rapier and cls comparison doesn't really matter there. Pvp, sure it might be more effective.

Because fun is a subjective term, your post is merely opinion and fun cannot be factored into efficiency for the masses

Both really, training mage in this way won't slow down wc and then he can simply do plates for 200m smithing.

Evidently, you`ve never seen a spar between two women before.

mutated vleds arent the only thing ive been testing, blk drags and blk demons are also on my list at demons 1 in 300 for my rate + lagotas rate, i kill about 300 demons per hour so thats 1 effigy per hour blk dragons are iffy since nobody has a real large interval, but from what i know i think its about 1 in 150 i can kill 200 blk drags per hour by cannoning 3 spawns with rapier and good luring, so thats about effigy per 45 mins like i said 1 effigy saves 96 mins of skilling if you use the lamp on 99 rc, so i still firmly believe that the fastest rc xp in the game doesnt come form zmi, but from killing SOMETHING, may be be mutated vleds if your unlucky, but im sure theres something out there thats under 1 effigy per hour thats 1 think id like to discuss on this thread since it has a huge effect on 200m all skills, if anyone has ideas on anything thats faster than 1 effigy/h then feel free to post ur ideas mine so far are 1. mutated vleds 2. blk demons 3. blk dragons 4. dark beasts 5. barraging nechs or something else, maybe just barraging stuff in general 6. possibly mith drags, u can kill like 100/h with rapier 7. id count ice wyrms since they have nice rate, but cant be camped feel free to test these or add to the list edit: its kinda funny my origonal post a day ago made 2 pages of discussion already...definately glad i did it now No one else is getting even close to these rates, I'm pretty sure you're just getting lucky. From my own personal experience I get a effigy every steel dragon task, but that does not mean they are a 1 in 80 chance

Yeah but theres no point in wasting time by doing a slower method, unless the slower methods afkable and more relaxing. Which is pretty much exactly what he said. Well actually they were talking about the comparisons between arctic pines and teaks

Effigies used on slayer close the window for more effigies to be obtained through combat; hence being a waste of exp Yes it is possible to obtain that insane amount of exp an hour with ZERO interference from other people (dagannoths etc) but it is EXTREMELY unrealistic, unless I'm missing something with how people do tasks these days.

I'd be amazed if anyone on tip.it gets over 60k slayer exp an hour.

if you disregard everything beyond "determination", slayer is the slowest/longest 99

It's extremely weak regardless...

i use 100+ ccs and we do 25 min avg Consider time inbetween dungeons and c1s

A realistic exp/hour atm is about 150k. With randoms in the right ccs, you can probably average a large in about 40 mins, which isn't bad. If you have a skype/vent team that plays with eachother consistently, 200k/hour is easily possible I'm guessing with floor 60, 300k will be average and 400k will be "pro"

Personally, I suggest going for cooking/fletching 99 if you don't want to be called a "noob". 99's aren't completely worth it, but I like getting them just to brag about it to my rl friends that play :D Wait what? Cooking and fletching both max at 1m/hour and yield next to no respect these days...only slayer, runecrafting, dungeoneering, agility, farming and somewhat mining have any respect these days

That could be true if you consider all 200ms, because you won't be maxed melee when you get 200m slayer, and will have to finish off the rest of the exp somewhere else regardless

The ability to swiftly kick people in the nads and kill them! That, teleports and..."worlds"

That's an awful lot of hours to get a rapier. Before occult floors I was pulling off 80k/hour, which is less than 30 hours at 69 (in groups of course, but even half of that is 60 hours)

99s have a meaning when you enjoy the skill or you wish to experience the "journey" to 99 Going for a 99 because of a cape is sad, in my opinion.Do you really think hundreds of hours is worth a coloured obsidian cape? I stopped at 99 dungeoneering because of warped floors, btw

Is 8.7m mining and 5.7m agility etc. Even possible considering his hp exp? (effigies)

This gives me hope of seeing 1b in a day off sw <3

This, efficiency is based on achieving the goal and not a specific player's "morals"

Effigies are INCREDIBLY overpowered. On the road to 200m slayer, it saves 1600+ hours on runecrafting ALONE. Tell me that's not overpowered. I did some math the other day about how much time an effigy saves, and I came up with about 100-110 minutes saved per effigy, assuming that all pairs are received at an equal rate. In fact, effigy experience is so good that Slaying beyond 200m for effigies is almost as fast as manually training those other skills.

Everyone likes their pixels different, so I doubt this will ever end. The maul seems to be mentioned on every other page or so whenever someone makes the original realization that it's good for PvP. Otherwise this is just Rapier stats being refuted by people who bought the Longsword first without thinking. Nah, it won't end until the rapier fanboys realize that killing fire giants with an extra 19 strength for 200k/hr ain't as slick as it sounds. Here lets sum up this thread in a nutshell. Whip for slayer CLS for big effin monsters CMaul for PVP CRapier for fanboys who got lots of GP but never heard of a cannon After all the discusion thats gone on in this thread. People still make troll statements about which one is better ^ There is no point in this thread anymore. Most people get defensive 'cause they wasted their first 200k tokens on a CLS and realised it sucks In all fairness, cls is fun to use (albeit not as fun as Maul or rapier IMO). Having hit 11.3m exp I have plenty of room for chaotic weapons and as such I have Cr, Cls, Cm, Cxbow and a bunch of other rewards. People who are defending cls are either 1. Reffering to a specific situation where cls outclasses rapier 2. Not using Extremes/Turmoil 3. Defending their choice on spending 200k tokens. Sure, if you're only going to get one weapon get a cls, but who is honestly going to stay at 80/81 dungeoneering forever?