Fire_Hawk154

Allright, so according to Jagex, it's against the Rules to multilog in the same Dungeoneering Party. Luckily it only takes about 29 years to go from 99-120 Dungeoneering through daily challenges. So I will max in about... 29 years :rolleyes:

Why am I not surprised...

Good idea! To make it even better, let's make it only claimable in P2P! :wub:

They didn't even change it with the 200-combatsystem. If the old formula hadn't come back we would now be able to fully enjoy Dungeoneering and play it they way it was supposed to be played. But apparently the penalty wasn't important enough for them to update it, so I guess it's safe to say that they just don't care about it and "No" is shorter than "Yes". I just wonder if they will change it before or after this thread will get 2000 posts. They players want a change, both P2P and F2P. They can't keep ignoring that.

Those who trained alot of Dungeoneering without the penalty during the 200-combat time also got an advantage over those who have to train it now. The whole penalty is an unfair gaming mechanic, the fact that we have to train the skill together with leeches who get more XP than those who put in the hard work says enough. If anything, Jagex is really lax with F2P. <_< Remove Dung.xp penalty, biggest thread in the Ninja Forum, still no JMod reply :angry: I'm sick and tired of how bad Jagex treats F2P...

Cutting our XP through half is a gameplay mechanic. But if I'm allowed to bypass that mechanic by forming a party with other level 3's, than it's not an "exploit" to avoid the 50% cap. Therefor I don't see it as exploiting a gameplay mechanic to just train the skill with your own level 3 accounts instead of with other players. It's in a grey area though.

Well, in P2P maxed is atleast 99 in all skills, while 120 DG is just required for completionist cape. Btw, I guess multilogging skillers and DGing with yourself is still not allowed? <_< I personally don't care about those kind of rules anymore if Jagex implements such ridiculous penalties. :wall:

Maybe they should invest some money in making F2P a little better and remove all those awkward "you have to be member for this, this and this" messages every 5 minites. They are too busy developing new things while all the old things are starving.

Revenants in F2P. Hardest thing to kill while the GP/H is alot less than killing +-level 50 Cockroach Soldiers...

Noticed this guy walking around, looks like he is Pure F2P as well so you might want to add him ;) Btw, is having at least 99 in all F2P skills considered maxed, or is 120 Dungeoneering required for that? :-k I really can't be bothered with DG as long as they don't remove the 50% XP cap <.<

It wasn't EOC that killed RuneScape, but many poor decisions in a row. Jagex gave F2P quite some updates that made players quit. Removing PvP from the Wilderness, taking away the hiscores, putting Clan Wars in the most laggy server, removal of free trade and now bombing F2P with P2P advertisements. No wonder most F2P worlds are empty. F2P used to have alot to offer to both free players and ex-members. But since minigames and PvP are dead, there is no point for ex-members to log in except for buying Bonds.

If they didn't want players to multilog minigames, Jagex should let the solomon/treasurehunt team make some good-looking rewards for minigames to attract players. |^_^|

Insta-bought Dragonstone Hauberk - 45M Non-insta bought Dragonstone Helmet - 25.5M :)

I never said anyone should do it nor that it's allowed. I don't even do it myself, but I would if it was allowed. Theoretically you're right, multilogging to gain any advantage is currently not allowed. I just don't care if anyone does it, seeing as there are many worse offences :P

Shouldn't you get P2P, then? If you made 2 more F2P accounts to get six GE slots, you're effectively cheating Jagex out of membership fees. Well, if I'd ask friends to buy/sell things for me, would that also be cheating Jagex out of membership fees? The result is the same, but the method is different. 2 GE spots are enough for me 99% of the time and for the other 1% I ask friends. If multilogging is somewhat "allowed" for certain things, I'd rather use another of my own accounts for buying/selling. It's less risky and I don't have to bother others with it. Even with this changed perspective they have specified it must NOT be used to gain an unfair advantage. Using extra accounts to have extra ge slots IS an unfair advantage, as you are bypassing a purpose built limitation. As soon as you use money from the main to buy items for the main on the 'mule' account you are giving yourself an unfair advantage and not playing 'within the spirit of the game' Getting a friend to do it is a different matter because they are using their slots to help you out and not bypassing any limitations - they are simply using their allowance to assist you. But with your own secondary account you are intentionally and purposefully bypassing a limitation to gain an advantage (buying/selling more things in a shorter time). I think paying money to get an advantage is unfair as well, but I guess that's not a popular opinion with so many players using Bonds, TH and P2P. That's why I stopped caring about what other people do on RuneScape. The difference between multilogging and RWT is that everyone can multilog, but not everyone has the money to RWT. Therefor I don't think multilogging is such a big deal these days.

Shouldn't you get P2P, then? If you made 2 more F2P accounts to get six GE slots, you're effectively cheating Jagex out of membership fees. Well, if I'd ask friends to buy/sell things for me, would that also be cheating Jagex out of membership fees? The result is the same, but the method is different. 2 GE spots are enough for me 99% of the time and for the other 1% I ask friends. If multilogging is somewhat "allowed" for certain things, I'd rather use another of my own accounts for buying/selling. It's less risky and I don't have to bother others with it.

I don't see the problem with multilogging, as long as you don't train on multiple accounts at the same time. GE spots are limited, especially in F2P. If you really have to buy/sell items and you don't have space, I don't mind people using an alternative account for it. If you can't find a Shield of Arrav partner, go ahead. As long as you don't abuse it to get a big advantage.

Even more useless BXP, you can also cash out for a tiny amount of coins <_<

Oh you're right, forgot that :P The order of the skills on the personal pages is a little strange though, maybe use the regular order? :)

Great job Ruli, looks fantastic :D Small suggestion: remove the Green Dragon from the cover :P

Luckily the NPC's were a little stronger than usual, but would've been great if they dropped better food at higher levels. First quest that was actually a little harder because of the scaling, hopefully they'll continue doing that. However, a warning would've been great, I didn't expect the need for food :P

Looks really good :D If possible, could the player's overall-level be calculated with the individual skill-levels? (to avoid P2P skills to count). :)

I only see a top 9? :P

So uhm, who's going to make the next pure F2P hiscores? :twss:

Yeey finally back on the hiscores :D :D