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Suddenly I'm less envious of tall guys :P

I ended up changing my Tinder profile back to my original pics and stuff since I wasn't getting as many matches. Maybe I'll try the experiment again some other time. Anyways, on Saturday night/Sunday morning at 2am a girl matched with me and she messaged me first. Since it was 2am and she started the conversation, I assumed she was DTF :P Her: Hi Me: Hi. How's your night going Her: Pretty good, how's yours? Me: Good. You're cute, want to hang out? Her: Sure, when? Me: Now Her: I don't have any gas, or make up on, or my hair done Me: Haha it's cool. Let's meet up tomorrow night at 8 Her: Where? Me: My place Her: Wrong answer, try again Me: Haha. There's a cool little coffee shop near ____ called ____ . Let's meet up there. Her: Ok Me: Cool. My number's ____ The following afternoon I sent her a text to confirm our date and she confirmed. She arrived at the coffee shop early and didn't order anything. She sat down in a spot where touching her would be awkward. I knew that I only had a few minutes to touch her before she files me under the "nice guy who's afraid of being sexual" category, so since we weren't going to order anything I suggested we go for a walk instead. She agreed, I grabbed her hand and took her for a walk for about 30 minutes. I underestimated how humid and hot it would be so I started feeling kind of gross and sweaty D: I live right down the street from the coffee shop, so when she brought up the heat and humidity, I told her that I live nearby and I have air conditioning at my place. She complied :D Brought her over to my place, gave her the "grand tour," and got her a glass of water. She sat down on my sofa in an awkward position where touching her would've been inconvenient so I suggested we watch some Netflix. I turn on Netflix, sit down next to her and put my arm around her and touch her while we watch TV. Somehow we started talking about massages and I told her I'd never gotten a professional massage before. She asked me if I wanted her to give me a massage. Uhh, is the sky blue? I took my shirt off and she massaged me for a bit. Over the next 30 minutes I grabbed a blanket for us and clothes gradually came off and the rest is history :P --- So, in sales, if a client indicates to you that they're interested in your product or service before you actually give them a presentation, then you skip the presentation altogether and go straight for the close. This is because the whole point of the presentation is to spark interest. But if they're already interested, then a presentation isn't necessary and only increases your chances of shooting yourself in the foot by saying something stupid. In this case, I (correctly) assumed that since she initiated contact w/ me at 2am, that she was already interested. Plus it's Tinder so she clearly liked me based on my photos already. That's why I was very "aggressive" and went straight for the close ("You're cute. Want to hang out?"). If I just bantered with her instead, chances are I would've bored her or something and missed my window of opportunity.

Overhauled my Tinder profile to be a lot more sexual and sleazy. I was using the same pics as from the dating sites but now I'm using the shirtless mirror selfie instead :D We'll see how that works out since I'm aiming for 1st date sex on Tinder. Still doing everything the same as always on the other dating sites and aiming for 2nd date lays on those though.

Miss hottie 2015 Quaterfinal 3: Lisa Ann vs. Hentai Tentacle Monster

I thought that was [bleep]ing obvious already lmao. The AMA heavily implied that it's a tragedy how most guys would rather play video games and watch porn than go date. My point was that this is actually a good thing :P I brought it up since I'm sure there's at least a couple of people here that think it's a bad thing.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/35b1ye/i_am_psychology_professor_philip_zimbardo_here/ That was interesting to skim through. Men who aren't addicted to porn and video games have a big advantage in the dating scene right now :thumbup:

I thought the same thing! That shit belongs in the department of redundancy department.

Meanwhile on OKCupid... Me: copypasta opener Her: Good to know. Well we are, according to this app, 51% match; however, I do not trust this app. I haven't read your profile description, and now with more reason, I have no necessity to do so since you will do it. Me: I'd take OKC's metrics with a grain of salt. What would you say your best quality is that doesn't have anything to do with your looks? I've got my own guesses but you'd probably know better than I would. :) Her: My best quality if being myself with whom ever I'm with Me: Cool. What are you looking for on here? Her: What are you? Me: In no particular order, I'm looking for... 1. Smart. Gotta be smart or else it's hard to relate to her and joke around. 2. Hot. I'm still a guy, after all. 3. Likes frequent sex. That spark between two people can start to fade pretty quickly otherwise. 4. Kind. I'm pretty intolerant of negativity and drama in my life. Does that sound like you? Her: Yeah. But I'm looking for: *Be or slowly transition to Veganism/Vegetarianism. I don't want to kiss nor have intercourse with a human that eats a dead corpse. * Be smart. I also like to make allusions and smart comments. * Be attractive. I'm a woman for a reason. * Have control but also likes to be controller. I like to "eat" differently everyday. Me: Ok you seem safe enough. :) We should meat up sometime for coffee or dessert. Don't be misteakin, though, I don't have any interest in becoming a vegan or a vegetarian. I'm too much of a weenie to give up beef and fish. Anyways if you're still interested in meeting up and you don't think I'm full of bologna, my number's xxx.xxx.xxxx For some reason she hasn't texted me yet :|

She's a Hooters girl and a model. She knew she was hot and she knew most guys find her hot

The hottest girl I've dated off Tinder texted me after I asked her that On Tinder it's not uncommon for girls to suddenly quit messaging me and then text me a few days later though.

that would be a good thing to put on OKC's "most private thing I'm willing to admit" section except for some reason they got rid of that :|

It's not too uncommon for them to ask me what mine is. Maybe about 1 in 5? I take it as a sign that they're interested when they ask me and usually just pitch the meet immediately afterwards. I use it 99% of the time on POF/OKC/Match but I don't really use it on Tinder unless the girl's super hot :P

She's a girl that I remembered talking to a couple of years ago but never scheduled a date with. I just messaged her for shits and giggles since I have nothing to lose lol. Also she's skinny with huge boobs. Probably didn't help that I haven't changed my pics or copypasta since then either :D I responded with "Hell yeah." followed by my standard "What would you say your best quality is..." She hasn't responded.... yet.

A girl on POF just responded to my opener with "dude youve been on here for years" :lol:

Alg is Alg

gross that's way too old for me

Grave of the Fireflies. For some reason it just didn't really touch me and I found it kind of boring and slow.

Apparently there was a bug that made you invincible and so people made dozens of bots to farm corp. One guy made like $50,000 from drops

Listened to Kayne's Yeezus album. I thought it was so bad I laughed out loud listening to it. I don't think there was any sense of nuance or anything. To me, it sounded like something a high schooler would submit for their Music Theory I class assignment. Lol anyways, with that said, did anybody in here listen to that album and think it's as great as a lot of people seem to think it is? Could you explain why people like it so much? >_>

A person on Tinder gave me their number right away and urged me to text them. I put their number into Facebook to see if they're real or if they're a middle-aged man trying to scam me. Turns out it's the latter so I started calling him by his real name and scared the shit out of him :lol:

TBH high school students shouldn't worry too much about dating just yet. Yes it's important, but high school is literally the worst time for dating. You can't use online dating till you're 18, you can't legally drink yet or go out to the bars, and you still live with your parents. The only way to meet girls is through daygame or through your social circle. It's a good time to focus on developing your inner game since your dating options are so restricted. With that said, I really wish I'd discovered Brent Smith sooner. I remember during winter break one year in college, when I was alone for a month waiting for classes to start up again and for my roommates to move back, I played RuneScape all day every day while listening to Brent Smith. When school started back up, suddenly I started getting sooooo much attention and compliments from girls that I'd never gotten before. Just because I'd been listening to Brent Smith and internalizing his mindset. HUGE game changer and massive boost to your inner game. Spend as much time as you can just listening to that stuff. Listen to it while you play video games or do homework or walk between classes and stuff. It'll work wonders on your beliefs towards women and how women view you :thumbup: More Brent Smith stuff I've got bookmarked: Vokle | Brent Smith LIVE! (1) Vokle | Brent Smith LIVE! (2) Sadly he hid a lot of his old videos which was his best stuff so the only way you can see them is via that playlist link in this post. Anyways, if you actually make it a habit to listen to all of his stuff as much as you can, you'll find yourself magically getting way more comfortable in your own skin around women, which is very attractive to them :) I remember asking some of my female friends if they thought I'd changed. They all more or less said "You're definitely a lot more confident than you used to be." or "You just don't seem to give a shit about what others think about you-- and that's a quality that a lot of people wish they had, it's very attractive" Blackdragon and Brent Smith are definitely my biggest "guru" influences when it comes to my dating life. Which is funny since they're both kind of polar opposites of each other. Sometimes you just have to completely emulate one person to learn all the pros/cons of such an attitude and then you can start to fine-tune things to be more in sync with your natural personality and find out what works best for you and what doesn't.

The first time I tried holding a girl's hand on a date, when I reached for her hand I spilled her beer. But she didn't let go of my hand and told me how much she wanted to hang out again after the date. Girls have empathy too. They know it's scary to make a move. If they see that you're nervous, that's only a deal-breaker if you allow your nerves to tell her that you're afraid of making a move. If a girl sees that you're afraid, but still move forward despite the fear, then I think that actually makes you more attractive than the guy who doesn't experience fear. Or think of it this way: if you're in her shoes and you're nervous on a date with a guy that you kinda like, would you rather have him expect you to make the move, or would you rather have him make the move so you don't have to? With sales, I learned the same lesson again the hard way. A month into my job, I'd made less than 10 sales. My coworkers averaged 30 sales that month. I was about to get fired and give up on being a salesman. So I kicked it into overdrive and instead of working 40 hours a week, I'd be out for 70 hours a week trying to sell. Still no luck. The only time I got a sale was basically when the client came to me first and demanded that I help them since they already had made up their mind. In other words, I had no control over my sales... until this one client. I laid everything out on the table for one client, giving what I thought was my best sales presentation to date. After my presentation, the client carefully considered his options, even flat out admitting how my offer was much better than what he currently has. He was a smart guy, I was happy to finally get a client with enough brains to recognize a good deal when he saw it. I didn't want to scare him away by trying to close the sale since I knew he was interested, so I just waited for him to ask for the paperwork. The sale was in the bag, after all. He'd have to be an idiot not to accept my offer. But instead of asking for the paperwork he said, "Well thanks for sharing this with me, but I think I'll stick with what I've got." I can count on one hand the number of times I've felt livid in my life. This was one of them. It was a slap in the face. I did everything "right" I thought. I respected his emotions and didn't push the sale... and that got me nothing. And he ended up worse off because he didn't choose the better deal. We both lost because I was afraid of making him uncomfortable. I went home early that day, absolutely furious. The next morning when I woke up, I was still furious. I never wanted to feel the way that client made me feel again. So that day I attempted to close every single client I met. Instead of feeling uncomfortable when it came time to close the deal, I felt nothing. My empathy was temporarily burnt out. I would watch clients squirm and make up all kinds of excuses and objections when I tried to make the sale and their discomfort no longer bothered me. It only told me that I was wasting my time with someone who's not uninterested and I'd quickly move on to the next one. And suddenly, like magic, I started making sales. I got more sales in the following week than I'd gotten in all of my previous weeks combined and was promoted right away... and my clients loved me for it. Life shouldn't punish people for being too empathetic. But it does. :)

Well I could write a book on this topic but it'd be a lot easier to give you practical advice if you're willing to share specifically what you're afraid of like Hedgehog said. A little while ago I started to write a post about this but I scrapped it and saved it on my computer instead. I'll just copy and paste it here now that it's relevant: I'm currently entertaining the idea that one of the reasons why people don't naturally gravitate towards sales and seduction is because of empathy. In the past I never considered that empathy could cause long-term unhappiness, but now that I think about it, I think it most certainly can. I remember what it was like to fear touching girls on my dates. I was partially afraid of rejection, but I think the thing I was most afraid of was discomfort, awkwardness, and tension. Making a move automatically generates these feelings between two people, even moreso if you're already uncomfortable. Not only was I unsure if I could endure these negative feelings, but for some reason, it was even more painful to think about making the person sitting next to me experience them as well. I felt guilty making women feel uncomfortable. Similarly, in sales, for the first month I was awful at it because I was afraid to try and close the sale. I was afraid of offending people or making them feel uncomfortable about having to make a decision. I didn’t want to put that burden on them. I wanted them to be comfortable. That’s why I never made any sales unless the client came to me first to place an order. It wasn’t until I realized that that discomfort is a “necessary evil” that my sales career took off. Same goes for dating. Interestingly, after my sales career took off, the more systematic, efficient, and successful I became at sales, the less empathetic I became (in a good way; my empathy went from "too high" to "moderate"). While I never “hurt” anyone, I definitely made countless people feel mildly uncomfortable over time. Such is the nature of sales. But at the cost of some mild, temporary discomfort, I was happy with my career success and I accumulated tons of happy clients-- clients which I never would've had if I had avoided closing the deal with them out of discomfort. Occasionally I'd get an unsatisfied customer and that would make me feel bad, however when you put things into perspective, you're never going to have a 100.0% mutual satisfaction rate with people. As long as the people whom I made less happy are in a teeny tiny minority, then there was no point in beating myself up over them. Similarly, I never intended to hurt them. It was an accident. I forgave myself and moved on. And they move on too pretty quickly. It wasn't really until my mentality shifted to: "If this makes them uncomfortable, that sucks, but it's not a big deal because we'll both get over it and forget about it very quickly” that I was able to reach the next level. Since then I can’t really think of a time where I regret trying to make a move or trying to close the sale. This suggests that either there has never been a time where it was in poor judgment to touch or close the sale; or that bad things have happened over the years, however they aren’t bad enough for me to remember them, which suggests that in the grand scheme of things, these "bad" things really weren't that bad after all.

This is getting intense. Let's hold hands and sing kum ba yah