Jebrim

The bolded part is really where you are going wrong. When your horn is empty and you don't have a team, it doesn't disallow you to do anything OTHER than agility, and agility is only one of the 25 skills in runescape. As said, with one full fill per week, you could do agility in 3 years, and managing to get 5 people together for 4 hours a week is VERY easy, particularly for the best players of the game. As also said, agility is a very unpopular skill, and none of the active top 15 has actively trained agility yet, but when they will, it's highly likely they will use horn(or effigies, as i will). Also, BA is much simpler than many would think. You basically only need 2 decent people and the other 3 can afk, still managing full fill in 4,5 hours. 1) The method I expressed works just as well for anybody who doesn't want to spend any time doing other skills as well as for people who do. It allows for more adaptability overall than your method. 2) I'm not talking about just the top 15. I'm talking about everybody in RuneScape. As far as I can tell, not one player actually does BA and Agility regularly in combo. There are lots of people claiming that it works better than just pure Agility, but I have yet to see any proof of anybody successfully doing it. 1) How does doing no other skills allow more adaptability? You are stuck doing 2 things. 2) People successfully did it for 90-99 agility. Successfully doesn't have to mean for 500mil agility xp. I think if doing it for 7mil xp and get 90k/hr that is enough evidnece that it can be done for longer periods and get 73k/hr I would agree with rawrsicles that is is like cave crawlers which are actually worth the extra cost. Oh and btw "Jerseyman32" is getting (perhaps got by this stage) 99 slayer on cave crawlers. Please reread what I said in 1. I stated that it works for both those that do just agil and those who don't do just agil. The adaptability allows one to choose to do just agility if they wished without being inefficient at all. The method I explained also allows for adaptability when something comes up that disrupts the BA session. Filling the horn from empty to full straight every time won't work in the long run. Concerning those who've "done 90k Xp/hr" from 90-99, I haven't seen any proof of that either. I'd love to see a video sped up 20-50x or so showing the end of a skilling session through to traveling to BA, setting everything up, doing the waves, then all of the agility, and finishing with an empty horn. Don't even compare this to cave crawlers, as that requires a ton of cash and is the main reason most people don't do it.

The bolded part is really where you are going wrong. When your horn is empty and you don't have a team, it doesn't disallow you to do anything OTHER than agility, and agility is only one of the 25 skills in runescape. As said, with one full fill per week, you could do agility in 3 years, and managing to get 5 people together for 4 hours a week is VERY easy, particularly for the best players of the game. As also said, agility is a very unpopular skill, and none of the active top 15 has actively trained agility yet, but when they will, it's highly likely they will use horn(or effigies, as i will). Also, BA is much simpler than many would think. You basically only need 2 decent people and the other 3 can afk, still managing full fill in 4,5 hours. 1) The method I expressed works just as well for anybody who doesn't want to spend any time doing other skills as well as for people who do. It allows for more adaptability overall than your method. 2) I'm not talking about just the top 15. I'm talking about everybody in RuneScape. As far as I can tell, not one player actually does BA and Agility regularly in combo. There are lots of people claiming that it works better than just pure Agility, but I have yet to see any proof of anybody successfully doing it.

You do not want to waste time with random noobs. L

True, it is not hard to fill a horn in short time. Since Jebrim II is probably a lvl 3 cb, this would not be an option for him since he would have to leech BA 100% of his time there or train combat. But for a balanced player, BA makes agility indeed a lot faster. Probably should leave this to Jebrim but I think his agility pures are getting 35hp each for agile armour I actually despise agile armour with a passion.

That just speaks for the popularity of the skill, not that this doesn't or wouldn't work. People hate agility and very rarely train it over 99, and of those who do train over 99, only those who aren't 100% deadset on training agility can manage this strategy, namely people going for 200m all skills, and of those, not many have gotten around to do agility yet(most only bother with easier skills). I think it's pretty preposterous to question if using the horn is worth it- if a decent team can fill the horn in 4-4,5 hours and it lasts for 8,5-9 hours of training, it's clearly worth it. Also, teams who fill horn would generally want to do a full fill in one run, so that's why this would be a good strategy. It's also much easier to manage this strategy if you have alot of friends who need to do BA regularly(hell, even people in this top 15 can manage to team together to make this work). If you use a set team, every person will be using up their horn at a different rate than other people (unless you always start with everyone who is empty). If one person for any reason needs to go, or if one person fills their horn before the rest, then the rest of the team is [bleep]ed. They have to either sit around waiting for a replacement, or they stop their session and go back to training. The latter would be the best decision. Name one person who is using this strategy you're advocating (filling a horn when a team is available, agiling until it's empty, and then doing another skill until a team is ready again). Name one person who is using this over a lengthy period of time and is also averaging better than 72k Xp/hr from the moment they stop skilling to the moment they empty their horn at the course.

It takes 2-3 hours to fill a horn in a good team, I think the problem is finding people who want to fill their horn every day. I guess it's for people who don't enjoy running around in circles all day and enjoy speeding the process up, personally I find BA much more enjoyable than agility anyway. You guys are all missing my point. You talk a lot about the theory, but in practice, it does not work. Nobody has done any significant amount of Xp while agiling with the BA horn and obtained better Xp/hr overall. As for the person who mentioned BAA, that clan sucks L. How can you exactly tell if someone does or doesn't manage this? As you'd only train when you have a full horn, the xp would be highly inconsistent within weeks and days, but the average per playing hour would still be over 100k an hour. For 200m in all skills, you could fill the horn once a week and empty it, thus taking ~3 years for 200m, so by no means is this impossible(or even hard). The only case where there could be a problem with this is if your sole goal in rs is to train agility, and that is too rare to even consider. Because I know everybody with at least 50m+ Agility Xp and not one of those has ever used the strategy you guys are claiming works. Also, it is NOT best to make the horn completely full, as you risk overfilling it. Furthermore, it isn't even necessary to empty the horn out completely either. If your pro team is ready, it'd be far better to just do BA to maintain some points in your horn. All that matters is to never let the horn go empty. Being full is not a requirement. This is all of course assuming that it actually is better than normal training.

It takes 2-3 hours to fill a horn in a good team, I think the problem is finding people who want to fill their horn every day. I guess it's for people who don't enjoy running around in circles all day and enjoy speeding the process up, personally I find BA much more enjoyable than agility anyway. You guys are all missing my point. You talk a lot about the theory, but in practice, it does not work. Nobody has done any significant amount of Xp while agiling with the BA horn and obtained better Xp/hr overall. As for the person who mentioned BAA, that clan sucks L.

Btw, I still don't agree that BA horn makes any significant increase of normal training, if any. This is mostly stemming from the fact that I have yet to see anybody actually employ such a technique long-term and succeed in obtaining a better rate overall.

It would take about 7k hours on the Brimhaven alone. That's about 300 RS days on Adventurer's Log.

Agility is easy in comparison to runecrafting and 1.5x as fast if you use ba horn in good teams. Another factor is that the runecrafting record will be harder to beat, if I did agility Jebrim would probably just spend 6 months at brimhaven beating it because he is the best at agility in the game. L If you used Karamja Gloves 4 and were aiming for the best Agility Xp/hr while there, then yes. However, if your only goal was to maximise the amount of stored Xp, it'd be far better to half afk it in between tickets and to take off the gloves between tickets as well. This would give you about 26k Xp in tickets and about 4k Xp in obstacles per hour. It's possible to store about 160m Agility Xp, but it'd take a very long time (about 7k hours).

Hi, I am Jebrim. O

As I said earlier, it's actually supposed to be "Longest Time Spent Playing a Free MMORPG". Jagex and/or Guiness [bleep]ed up. Jagex was only giving them the highest hours in their free game. They mentioned this in a post on the RSOF sometime ages ago.

I have no exact amount, but I've heard as high as 1.4k before. I don't know how reliable that number was, however. She could be anywhere between 1k and 1.4k.

That's a good point tbh, and I think "time wise" it will be the most time ever put into a single game by one person. I think I remembered reading a post a few 100 pages back that the world record of time put into a game was from someone who played rs? Like I think Drumgun was talking about how 1 person was ahead of him in time, but I have no clue. Here's the thing. Jagex and/or the Guiness Book of World Records [bleep]ed up. S Diamant Y was listed as having the most hours put in into an MMORPG, however Jagex later told some players that it was referring to the F2p game only. They failed to make it clear enough to Guiness and therefore they assumed it was in their entire game, not just the most hours of anyone in a free MMORPG. As far as I'm aware, Green098 holds the most hours in RS atm, although she has hardly used that time well.

They are no longer top players and not really worthy of comparison to current top players. Their total invested hours were far lower, although I will say that classic was definitely a far more interactive game without the easy afkable methods that are out there today.

all 200m's > 1b agility xp > trimmed completionist cape

Elvis is nintendo swe again, he probably got enough of the spam in game. You obviously don't know Tendo. Training past 200m Xp is the most efficient of course.

I question what is actually considered a possible rate. I don't see 147k Xp/hr in Wcing being possible and I especially don't see the Fishing rate being possible. There's also still the question of sweets being worth a ~5k Xp/hr increase.

c2 woodcutting is faster than c2 fishing. Woodcutting and fishing outside of daemonheim are 140k and 90k max, respectively. 147k and 143k (119k if not using purple sweets when you dont get a fish on the 3rd tick) Your rate estimates never cease to amaze me...

Skiller 703 needs to do 200m Agility tbh

Oh, Richard- is Rune Ninja8? I forgot that, but that's quite interesting lol. Stupid name changes... >.< Btw, can a mod please remove Matt258's blog on the bottom of this thread? Just PM Matt an ask him to delete and reupload them so they're not attached to this topic. I don't think he wants it removed LOL

Oh, Richard- is Rune Ninja8? I forgot that, but that's quite interesting lol. Stupid name changes... >.< Btw, can a mod please remove Matt258's blog on the bottom of this thread?

I used to dungoeneer with zezima and the old nite back before they removed the wilderness and free trade in 07. That doesnt mean im telling the truth though. I lol'ed. hard iamsomebody1 is just trolling. Green098 is wellknown for her terrible dungeons and nobody who is serious about getting good rates ever dungeons with her lol.

They'll be fixing it up a bit

Boredom is subjective and everything subjective is relative among different individuals. What you considering boring isn't what me or Arib would consider boring. So you admit that you are jelly that Foot is getting attention? No, I obviously must hate agility. Why else would I grind Agility for 6k+ hours and get no pay for doing it either? Seriously, though, Agility owns. I find that it is very relaxing when combined with some good music.