Sy_Accursed

@The-Ancients point: The trouble is you can't pick a side without being totally bias and alienating one important set of users or another. Both side sees the other as the brash/immature/annoying users. I don't think you can say, however, that either side is correct in their view; just opposing viewpoints (which both have merits and flaws to them) and, for some at least, an unwillingness to live and let live as it were. Also would be good if admins and/or mods would grace us with some sort of overview of the events this thread is about so everyone is on the same page precisely as to wtf it is about.

No they are pretty slow xp and not even particularly good money. but if you enjoy them they could be an option jsut slower.

Yeah all aggressive monsters become un-aggressive after a while; the other people probably aren't staying long enough or are moving over map boundaries which resets it. Shouldn't think its being too high lvl since IIRC they all same level, so they'd either all attack you or all not. (the non-aggressive cut off based on levels is double +1, so lvl 25s stop being aggressive when ur lvl 51)

In terms of doing it cheap yaks with full void and iron or steel knives is still just about the best IIRC. You can make it better with higher knives, pots and prayers; but obviously that ups the costs. And of course there's the whole efficiency trope you'll no doubt get quoted about how doing it with chins or canon is better as in the time saved you can make more money than you spent and thus profit.

Its falador allotment only. And I think it might even exclude the herb patch, don't quote me on it though!

Meh a case of semantics. I was only covering those that drop it enough to be considered as droppers in terms of farming; much like when people ask for herb droppers in general you don't list off the hundreds that drop herbs but not frequently or consistently. Either way it wasn't wrong info. Ancient mages and boss monsters are the only droppers remotely worth considering using and they aren't efficient to farm from (for torstols specifically).

fair enough; clearly my clan mates r talking rubbish on this one then lol.

But he clearly asked 'how many charms he needs' not how long will it take to get them. Which tip.its summoning planner covered as best as it can be; unless there really is some leet drop rate linked calc I've yet to dsicver.

This tool is the god of summoning imo. Using tip.it ones you can roughly guesstimate how many charms you need to gather; then when you get close/get them you can use this to tell you exactly what to make it what order to maximise efficiency in terms of trade-in etc.

Yeah all the bones get noted. 5% more damage. Not 100% sure on it but I've heard stuff like herbs, gems, ores etc. (resource type drops essentially) are mostly noted too from clan mates.

Sure you keep telling yourself that. Clearly my posting genuine advice then being flamed at and attacked for it is the problem. It is in no way the people who can't just civilly respond. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Flame me - i will bite back. Prove me wrong CIVILLY - I will gladly accept it and apologise fro my bad advice. And as ever no-one ever pays any note to the many many many posts I have which have no issue at all because they are perfectly good advice. And apologising when your wrong is more than most users do; I recall many occasions people started on me and I proved my point and they vanished; like a recent thread about Dwarves using magic where this user called Nifflin started on me saying I was lying and oh yeah I posted proof that backed up my case as did others and surprise surprise nifflin just stopped responding....

I think it fits. The whole issue started on a thread stating tht trolling and flaming was gonna be more strictly punished/dealt with. People are just kicking up that ppl who trolled worse BEFORE the rule change but haven't really done anything AFTER the rule change haven't been banned when people who HAVE trolled/flamed badly after the rule change has. If those older trolls post in their old style I'm sure the mods will get them; but you can't enforce a rule retrospectively to things that happened before it was put in place. Granted I not seen all the posts in the fight the mods cleaned em up quickly, but I got the jist of what's happened though no specific names etc.

By that logic I can go and flame anyone for any reason at all; I did after all provide tip.it and its hundreds/thousands of users with detailed guides for 2 of the hardest puzzles in game and a whole myriad of other corrections and details across a good 70% or so of guides on the website. And by that logic all the staff are in no way in the wrong because their long-term contribution to tip.it vastly exceeds the odd guide here or there. But no, no-one has any right to at all. Someone did it before me, or worse than me is not a valid defence of rule breaking.

What mis-information? All the seed drop info is correct. And my comment about "virtually nothing" aside from ancient mages n boss monsters dropping torstol is perfectly true as well, not a lot does drop torstol herbs other than the boss monsters and as you covered they are rare.

I find the attitude of some users appalling in so much as they seem to be genuinely arguing that they SHOULD be allowed to troll, flame and be derogatory just because they have written a few guides that help others and can take those guides away if they so wish.

I suggest you scroll up, I apologised in my last post to this thread.

Had a play with post production, not sure I'm happy with it yet though. Artistically not feeling as good about it as my last few, but I think technically in terms of composition the grid focal point stuff and that I think its better.

Last info I heard showed between lack of players and game time conquest points per hour work out inferior to pc itself. And that most guides advised only doing conquest until rank for deflector then using pc for points. But doing it quick google search its seems even newer info has work out conquest as better; I do wish they'd stop changing the consensus on this one. My bad on the original advice I gave, seems conquest is in fact faster for points. Sorry! Edit: See further down apprently I wasn't wrong, this thread is getting a bit convoluted now lol

What I've read suggests you can push the 300k xp/hr mark if your good; but realistic rate at under lvl 90 is around 150k - 220k

^You mean rank not points.

Edit: See further down thread. Got my info wrong. Edit 2: So apparently I might've been right god pc clan + vet boat = win

Also: Every conceivable pure of any use has been made before. Other than like 2 - 3 months after a new skill or game changing gear in an old skill there is new new unique pures. Prboably not something you could easily proof, but the fact there is a finite number of useful pures that is much smaller than the number of players of the game makes it pretty much a statistically impossibility that someone hasn't made every pure you could think of.

Yeah 2 - 3 mins for ~30k - ~50k xp is pretty darn good. Even on the msot efficient trianing methods for the 3 skills you can't get high enough xp rate to technically be better than the circus. Since circus gives 10k - 15k for about a minute work it is technically 600k - 900k xp an hour. And IIRC even the top end agility, ranged and mage xp methods are like ~300k xp/hr at most.

tbf the whole tip.it owns anything submitted to the forums things is a pretty standard t&C of any website out there; I don't see the issue. The same policy exists in RSOF T&Cs, facebook, myspace etc. etc. Its a standard policy that covers sites being able to use stuff users posted if they so wish; but its never something enforce (except by douche sites) to the extent of OMG WE OWN THIS NOW U HAS NO RIGHTS. Heck even if they do "take" your guide for the main website they give you credit.

The ape atoll monkeys are substantially faster xp/hr iirc; but more monotonous.