Sy_Accursed

Yup as covered and story wise explained in Love Story PoH exist in folded space (aka instances), when no-ones in them they don't exist. So if u drop stuff n leave ur house (and a friend aint hanging around in ur house for w/e reason) the instance ends and anything left behind vanishes

Go into dungeoneering > customise ring > big button that says "reset" It takes ALL classes back to 0 and returns all tokens, but it can only be sued once

That was the whole poinbt of letting us have a one time reset. Because at least 1/2 the rings had misleading descriptions and/or had their effects slightly changed after the release; so predictably alot of players ended up with rings useless to them

Yup. After all "Cooking Apple" is the only apple item in-game, all the others that mention "apple" are either pineapple or products such as pies etc.

Randoms are so rare these days anyway, unless you pwoer train in a random free zone for 5 hours+ then leave (which basically always generates a random) your lucky if u see 1 random a month. Just deal with em and move on.

You mean this one: Which I conveniently found here: http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=treasure_trails_coords.htm#list In the Tip.it guide already

Liking it muchly, but "View My Content" has developed an epic time delay. Threads I posted in last night (so like 10+ hours ago) are only now appearing in the listing. Threads already in there are bumping themselves up fine, its jsut new threads.

How is +3 strength better than +4? Especially when it saves so little special attack energy its not gonna get you a extra special attack that quick enough to be worthwhile?

I glanced at the new rewards and instantly decided the ring was pretty much useless.

It's hardly "near" especially with the windy path it takes several minutes to run there and back.

They do often work past thier normal hours and come in in middle of night to fix things. They can't do it all the time though, the company won't allow it as it can't pay them and at the end of the day unless its reallllllly important to get done right then and there, even if you LOVE the job you're not gonna stay and do it without getting paid, unless its only gonna take like 5 - 10 minutes.

3 times in a row? Plus the whole TT mess? It isn't an isolated incident. Runescape is one of the most complex java applets to date; plus they continually try and push and bring in new tech such as z-buffer (which went wrong hence TT delay) while keeping backwards compatibility. Which all together means every single update is bound to throw up several technical issues and many may not come to light til the last moments. It's realistic to expect every update to be delayed by tech issues, anything else is dam good work on Jagex's side.

Since when does 1-2 hours give us enough time to change our own plans accordingly? That's really unreasonable. For example, people try to finish F1-35 before this update, which at the least takes 5-6 hours. It's perfectly reasonable given that technical issues flare up in the last moments. They can't tell us at 9am no update today when the update won't be ready til around 3pm, because it can all be on target until even minutes before hand. Also if you wish to do f1 - 35 before it comes you should perhaps do so in advance then not go bk til the update does or not does not arrive.

lol, serious? Monday: (on the day of) Oh, the update's not today. --> people expect tuesday. Tuesday: (on the day of) Oh, the update's not today. --> people expect wednesday. Wednesday: (on the day of) Oh, the update's not today. --> people expect thursday. Rinse, repeat, delay to next month. Yes but each day: Notice at around 1- 2 pm UK Updates never come before about 3pm UK. That's a 1 -2 hour buffer between being told no update and when an update would come out.

I agree. Nothing was promised though. Yes, it wasn't "promised" per se, but people still for whatever reason (precedent most likely) expect Mon/Tue updates. That's the crux of the problem. Jagex in their eyes never promised a Mon/Tue update, but people expect it. An easy solution would be to tell us the day of the update. Also, I was referring more to the TT update than this one, where they clearly did not follow through on their promise. Calling a BTS not a promise is really just a way to give themselves an excuse. Analogy: Dad: "Hey I'll plan to give you a candy bar on Thursday" Kid receives no candy bar on Thursday. Kid: "You didn't give me a candy bar!" Dad: "I never promised, only planned". But they did tell us. They gave us a no game update today notice about 2 hours before the time updates usually come out. Which is the factor rendering your argument flawed. And you analogy is flawed. Jagex is coding one of the msot complicated java applet I existence. Between the near infinite hardware combinations and the near infinite possibilities of coding conflicts creating technical issues there are literally billions of possible and unexpected delays to game updates. Planning to give ur child a candy has very few possible complications. Other than dad dying, kid dying (or becoming badly ill and bed/house ridden) or the Dad becoming void of all money not alot can disrupt it.

I agree. Nothing was promised though. They only started using that disclaimer recently because their reliability has taken a nosedive and they needed a way to save face. :thumbdown: That policy has been in place for YEARS. Pretty much ever since RS went from being just Andrew to the company of Jagex they have ALWAYS had a policy of no promised updates or promised release dates or times. They are more vocal about it lately because theres more stupid people who assume everything is a promise or what happens usually is a gurnateed thing.

According to the dev blogs game updates go to QA servers after they have been blocked out. QA servers are the full game but with several months of upcoming content in various states of completeness (eg lacking graphics, or dialogue or sound) The week of release that weeks updates are moved to the RC server (release candidate) and further tested as obv this can throw up issues where codes tht r on the QA aren't on the RC. Then the RC is whats sent out to the game servers. But from what Mod Emilee has said, this update wasn't even delayed--- they ****ing PLANNED it for late in the week. This is one of the most anticipated updates in several months, definitely in this month, and they deliberately plan to release one several days later than what people expected? This just creating extra hype for the update and making it more likely the update won't reach expectations. Since you're a Jagex apologist, I expect you'll come back with a quip about how it's players own fault if an update doesn't meet expectations or some equally likely excuse. So they planned it for later in the week? They never told us it would be early in the week. And every day they've posted the no game update today notice hours before usual update time. We've been perfectly well informed all week well before update time that it wasn't coming that day, so people getting assy at jagex for lack of communication or not releasingwhen they said they would have no legitimate argument.

You're reasoning is flawed. Jagex haven't promised anything and have reasonable systems and communications in place to notify us of no update today several hours before the usual update time. Anyone who gets over hyped does so themselves. Anyone who eagerly awaits the update before the usual update time needs to learn how to tell time. Jagex give reasonable notice of no update days and delayed updates.

Its not their issue at all. Half the customers I served in a shop for 2 yrs were thick as anything and came out with utter garbage and nonsensical expectations. It wasn't our problem as long as we scanned thru their shopping and charged them while being polite. You think a few kids on RSOF is a lot? Jagex have like 2 million active accounts, maybe 200 complain on RSOF? And they can't give update release dates due to technical delays that emerge at the last minute. You seem to be udner the deluded impression technically delays are nice things that will gladly pop up with plenty of time to be fixed rather than something that emerges in the very final checks. They already make a reasonable effort. BTS tells us what is coming within the month. Twitter hints tells us what is coming that specific week. No Game Update notices come hours before the usual update time. If you take it all in and process it properly it all means unless you are utterly thick and beyond help you shouldn't be madly awaiting the update until the few hours between the usual no game update notice and the game update time. It works perfectly for me. I know dungeoneering bacth 2 is the third update of the month. I know its due this week. I expect the update to come on a day when there isn't a no game update notice at around 2pm. When they day comes then I will start waiting and expecting as it should arrive in the next couple of hours.

Well its not Jagex's doing its all player hyper and invention and as I stated about 8 times. The no game update today notices come a good 2 hours before updates usually come out, what more can Jagex do? It is not their issue if people are dumb enough to sit waiting and refreshing hours and hours before game updates ever come out, they are afterall giving us notice it won't be today hours before anyone with a concept of time expects it. And Jagex can't announce it that early (sun or w/e) cause they DO NOT KNOW that early. Oddly enough technically problems and last minutes bugs don;t throw themselves up days before hand, they are something that emerges at the last minute.

Yes updates are usually on monday - wednesday, but that doesn't quantify anything. The point still stands the no game update today notices are posted a good 1 - 2 hours before the usual update time, so even though it gets to wednesday and you may think oh update probably be today then you get told no hours before you shuld be expecting it to arrive. Also setting expectations so fixedly on what usually happens when Jagex persistently say no set update days is your own fault

Actually a companys ultimate goal is to make money, keeping customers 100% happy is rarely a big part of this as that would involve giving away everything for free. Also the impatient illogical expectation creating group is a small is tiny, it hardly matters if they threaten to quit every week becuz jagex failed to release an update on a specific day, that they nvr promised to do in the first place

Again Jagex have always said no set update days. So its the players themselves creating expectations not Jagex. Whether or not the expectation is player-generated or Jagex-generated doesn't matter, because either way the expectation is still there and Jagex must deal with it Not really. You can't blame the company for following their policy of no set update day just because players create their own expectations. That'd be like trying to sue a supermarket because you tried to eat a chicken (bought there) without cooking it. Sure they sold you the raw chicken, but they didn't say you can eat this chicken as is so its not their fault you did so. With Rs Sure Jagex have told us there will be an update this week, but they haven't told us a day or time so it isn't their fault or problem if you create you own expectation of when it will be

Again Jagex have always said no set update days. So its the players themselves creating expectations not Jagex.

How is not Jagex's fault for hyping up updates through various means only to people at the last possible moment after they have waited that, "Sorry, not today folks". Seems to me like they are real saddos because how hard could a message a couple ago be? And if you actually read, people did not refresh the page all day. In Northern America, it is NOT 3 PM like it is in the UK, well in some parts anyways. It is usually early morning when the updates come. So people staying up a bit, and checking at this time is completely sensible, it isn't a lack of a common sense. As usual, Jagex apologists appear, apologizing for a [cabbage] business model of procrastination. This isn't about kids moaning or (though some probably did). This is about honesty and consistency. If you need more time, be honest, don't [bleep]ing hype it up, pretend everything is going find and then around the last hour or so, come and tell us that it isn't ready--tell us before. They haven't hyped anything. They gave us BTS so we know what updates are this month. From the fact they normally follow BTS order we know what update is likely to be this week. They have no given a day or time for the update, so waiting for it on a specific day is YOUR doing not jagex's And just because its early hours your time, doesn't change the fact no update today messages come around 1-2pm uk time and game updates pretty much never come before 3-4pm uk time. No matter what timezone you translate that into they are giving fair warning, again its your own fault if u refresh and wait too early. Besides America is 5 - 8 hours behind depending on coast. So you're looking at 5 - 8am for no update notices 7 - 10am for actual game updates. So get up at a reasonable time and you'll either arrive just as the update goes live or the notice will already be up.