DarkDude

Range IS underpowered if you like it or not. Rangers can't KO which is really the only way to get pks these days, and even have a hard team beating mages. Meleers can Easily kill both rangers and Mages. Mages can kill Meleers and Rangers.

I agree, I just had to clear my bank out because I couldn't fit anything in, After putting everything I need in I have 3 spaces free :P

And you never had to? :shock: Weird... I wonder what's up. As I said on the last page, It's a black dragon.

Havent seen it... :shock: Black Dragon :P

ffs, there aren't any nuts on the bush, or bananas on the trees. I've got the snake skin i need, but this won't work :(

Where's the Chickens Lair? Unless of course of the egg outside his shrine is what you need :P Also, where do you get Cinnamon?

But I believe this is what your ROUTER sees and not what your actual I.P is, Your proper IP is the same and this is the one which Jagex look at.

Right click on the picture of the person in the jungle, it says "Garden" in the link :lol:

But the problem is Jagex can't tell who the owner of the account is can they? Just don't do anything suspious and Jagex won't ban you, simple.

I've been playing for 4 years, and for 3 of those have been using a router. Me and my brother play at the same time a lot, we often trade, pk and kill things together and we haven't been banned.

same , my cousin got one while i was there, both of us kinda nooby, he sold it for 200k!, which we both though was great.. =\ :lol: soooo low... its worth near 20 times that :( More like 10.5x :P

At the moment the Triangle is Highly weighted towards Melee/Mage both of them being about equal, and together they're a deadly Combo. Rangers are MILES behind, Even with 2 rangers on 1 meleer you probably couldn't kill them...

4 peoples list is NOT enough to get an Accurate value, it's basicly impossible to get one. The way I've used my values is that the chance of getting a chain off Dusties is 1/60th that of the chance of getting it off Kalphite Queen, which is probably roughly the right Ratio.

My friend thought that soloing the KQ was better to do that teaming it and I know lots of other people who will only solo the KQ because they believe it to be better.

No I didn't.

I've NEVER heard ANYONE mention that, EVER.

I think it's 1/200, it seems right to me although you may get one after 1, or may go over 1000 without one.

There's really 3 ways of getting Dragon chain which people think are the best. 1) Dust Devils 2) Soloing the KQ 3) Double teaming the KQ I'm going to compare the 3 methods and find which IMO is the best. I'm going to assume the drop rates for Dragon Chain are 1/12500 off dust devils and 1/200 off KQ. Dust Devils Vs Soloing the KQ Soloing the KQ costs aproximatly 75k PER queen, an aful lot, each queen takes: 4 Minutes of walks from Shanty, 2 Minutes of Walking TO Shanty from tele spots, and about 5 minutes actualy killing it (That's assuming you kill 2 per trip) That's a total of 11 Minutes PER queen. In that time I can kill roughly 25 Dust Devils. (Bit less than 30 seconds per) so That's 25 Dust Devils PER kalphite queen, that means if I kill 200 Kalphite Queens to get a chain, that'll be roughly 5000 Dust Devils, which means that I'll get 5 chains for 2 Chains off Dust devils. That's 1000 Kalphite Queens, Which will cost a staggering 75M for 110M, 35M Profit. Dust Devils cost LESS than 50gp per using bones to peaches, So killing the 25K dust devils will cost only 12.5M for 44M profit of 32.5M, 2.5M less than that off KQs. But in that time You'll have gotten a hell of a lot more Combat XP off Dusties. IMO this is pretty close, and It'd come down to what other drops, You'd get far more drops off dusties thus they'd have a high total but the KQ can drop d2hs, and at 4M a pop it's not bad. Dust Devils Vs. Soloing the KQ = Even, Maybe soloing is better. Soloing the KQ Vs. Teaming the KQ (With 2 people) Teaming the KQ with 2 people, will cost LESS than half that of that soloing it. So about 25k per trip. And it takes LESS than half as long per KQ (2 people, more damage quicker and only in one trip) so Basicly for every 5 Chains you get while teaming you'll only get 2 solo. At 25k per, You'll spend aprox 5M per chain, and 25M for 110M/2 = 55M, 30M profit. And while Soloing at 75k per, You'll spend 30M on getting just 2 chains for 44M, that's ONLY 14M profit, less than half that while teaming. Soloing Vs Teaming - Teaming wins, by a wide margain. Overall - Teaming > Solo > Dusties Aprox 12.5 > 5 > 2 Chains 75M > 35M > 32.5M in Profit, Anyway, I made this because I was having a discussion with my friend about which is a better way of getting it. Of course these calculation are assuming you're gaurneteed a chain every 200 or 12000, but that's really the best way to compare it and it's not taking into account any other drops or XP.

*looks at tiles* Yeah, plenty of uses. Could think of a few more items aswell if you really wanted me to.

Killing pkers often annoys them.

Yeah it sucks :( my names now MuH-KÃÆÃâÃâ¹ÃâoÃÆÃâÃâ¹Ãâo :(...... it now looks like the Danish letter ÃÆÃâÃâ¹Ãâ Yep, they should have made the 0 (o) Big and Round O Would have been great then.

Ouch, I feel sorry for people with 0s in there name before, they look rubbish (I don't mean OO0OO0OO0000O names)

Technically it was a Magenta Party hat...

The Nicest thing someone did for me (That weren't my friend) was I was pking and was lagging, they managed to kill me and when I got to bank I asked him if I could buy my stuff back, he sold it back to me cheaply because he knew I was lagging and it was unfair how I died. I've done some kind things for people aswell, Found a glory in the abyss (With other stuff) and went to edge and soemone asked "who got my glory in the abyss" I gave it back, didn't even get a thank you :( There was a level 70 I think in Thzaar caves wearing mith, asked him if he wanted better armour and gave him a rune set. There was a low level in lumbridge, and asked me for help, I took him to the bank and gave him 100k and some spare stuff :)

RoW seemed to lower my chances of getting barrows items, I had like 7 rares from 700 trips with RoW and had like 4 in 100 trips with RoL :P