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Yes it does, just in the same way that genocide denial of historically accepted genocides almost undoubtedly means that you're a racist. You have no reason to deny a certain genocide when the facts are plainly obvious...except that you have an underlying dislike for the race that was victimized. See: David Irving. It has nothing to do with the denial of facts? where did you pull this ridiculous analogy from? i deny gay marriage because i believe that Christian marriage is a religious practice. there is "facts per say" condonning the joining of two men / women in holy matromony so does that make you the bigot and denier of the sacredy of marriage and therefore a denier of the holocaust. what a bigot you are Mr Mage No, marriage ceremonies are "done" in a church in front of a priest, if the couple so chooses. The actual marriage happens in a courthouse, like when my friend Hali was married. There was no ceremony, they were married by a judge. The joining of men and women has always been of religious value, while it has changed in recent times and is now sometimes seen as a formality it is still in its essence the joining of two people under christ. Not legally. The church doesn't have to accept their marriage, the state does. Is religious doctrine law? The law is based off of the religious doctrine. so yea, the basis of it is. And? your merely discriminating against the church and being a bigot. No it's not. The churches aren't forced to perform marriage ceremonies. read above concerning the origins of marriage etc etc Separate but equal has already been thrown down, champ. I do not see the point behind being separate but equal not being accepted. So you just don't like gay people because....? At least the religious folk have a ridiculous dogma to try and justify their bigotry. I never said i dont like gay people, please dont try to fill in gaps to discredit my information based on assumptions on your part. i have no problems with gay people and have a few that i call friends. i just believe marriage should be between a man and women as it has it ties to the church and these ties should be respected as customs and beliefs of the church. rather then hatred for the gay community. and why do you hate religious folks so much? at least gay people have a reason to justify their bigotry towards the church. What? was in regards to attempting to make a religious ideal fit around a different ideal that goes against the beliefs of religion. Uh...you clearly don't have any understanding of the issue at hand. I think you will find that is the issue at hand. Gay people want equal rights, Religious people want to protect there beliefs... not an overly difficult subject, perhaps you forgot to remember that and just decided to run around and calling all opposed to you a bigot? Separate but equal. Do you have an issue with black people having the same water fountains, but lawfully they can't be used by white people? no, both people get the same use of the water fountain, one calls it a bubbeler the other a water fountain. who gives a flying [bleep] what its called to be perfectly honest. No, they're civil rights advocates, arguing against injustices about bigots like yourself. No i think you will find they are religious hateing people who want to command the government to change law based upon what they consider to be right and in case cause people to loose a certain part of their religion that they believe to be truthfull and holy because of these people. i call that discrimination and as such i believe you are in fact, a bigot (bigot really is the new black isnt it)

simply stating your opposed to gay marriage does not make you a homophobe. it simply means your opposed to the idea. Marriage is a religious institution. there is a reason its done in a church with a priest. its the joining of two people (man and women) under a religious connection. if that religion has decided that it does not accept the decision to wed two people of the same sex, i cant see how it is an issue. Religious doctrine (catholisism) states marriage is between man and women. so to be married under Christian values and to be of two of the same sex would be seen as going against the churches wishes. Im all for equal rights, but to say homosexual people should have the right to be married under christian values is discriminating against the church. A Civil Union would eliminate this if the union did in turn offer the same amount of options and legal abilities that married people had. I do not agree with catholisism, im an Athiest. but the fact is the entire idea of this is trying to make a pentagon fit into a square shape. it wont work. Gay people want the church to change their beliefs so that they can get equal rights. see how this just wont work? Change it to the civil union, make the Civil Union give them the same rights as Marriage and i honestly cannot see the problem with it. by claiming that gay people have every right to be lawfully married is being a religious bigot.

Cant believe Jack Churchill hasnt been mentioned yet. this guy was just a freak and absolutly awesome

Boy: Ares or james girl: dont care

Thanks for continueing this guys, and also for posting the link for bestactever... i 4got to add that i really do hope Sir rick does go to the awards, and performs live. honestly what could be better then that? and if you record it on your tv then u can rick roll your friends on the TV as well =] think of the possibilities

lolz, i love in the video when the women on the right says that its an elitest liberal magazine... did i just miss something or is sarah palin not part of the repulibcan party, well known for their elitism? and honestly who gives a fly [bleep], its a photo, she (obviously) has make up on, the whole point was that she is "foksie" who cares?

im doing my hsc through tafe. its a really great way to do it =] im doing my hsc over 18 months and have already fully completed my maths module and scored 94 on it (will prolly get lowered down to 93-91 but hey its out of the way =] ) i finished my physics and chem modules scoring 87 and 92 respectivly (not sure what they scale to) and iv got english and modern history left, both of which after 50% of em being done are sitting at around 90-92% so as long as i dont screw them up, it should be a good UAI for me then its off to a buisness / arts degree through the army studying at canberra

i know, which makes voting for rick astley even more important

while this may not seem like a good topic or even an interesting one to alot of you. there can be great justice achieved Weve been Rickrolled! Over twenty years after his hit single went to No. 1 in 16 countries, 80s pop star Rick Astley has been nominated in the category Best Act Ever as his fans take his hit single Never Gonna Give You Up literally and flock to write-in his name as a nominee. Rick Astley in his first ever nomination in the history of the MTV Europe Music Awards will compete against Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Green Day, Tokio Hotel and U2 for Best Act Ever. The finalists in the Video Star category were also revealed today as selected by MTV - with Madonna receiving her only EMA nomination this year for 4 Minutes. She is battling for the Award against 30 Seconds to Mars, Santogold, Snoop Dogg and Weezer. Here are all the nominees for Best Act Ever and Video Star: Best Act Ever: Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Green Day, Rick Astley, Tokio Hotel, U2 Video Star: 30 Seconds to Mars A Beautiful Lie; Madonna feat. Justin Timberlake 4 Minutes; Santogold L.E.S. Artistes; Snoop Dogg Sensual Seduction; Weezer Pork and Beans. Vote now to determine who will win in Best Act Ever and watch on 6 November to see who MTV chose for Video Star. thats right people, rick astley is in the nominations for best act ever http://ema.mtv.co.uk/vote/ ^link for the voteing options. vote for rick, think of the great justice

Well at the moment i have a few options in front of me. will list in preference option a) get accepted into the army, and do my bachelor of buisness / arts degree majoring in economics and political science. work in the army for another 5 years (mandatory) and come out at the age of 28 with a very nice bank balance. then move back into civilan life and start to work my way into federal politics and hopefully secure my self a place in the senate / house of reps and continue working from there. option B) do a bachelor of commerce / law at my local university, and get a part-time job in a firm of somekind doing paperwork etc to pay for uni. join a solicitor firm straight out of uni and study political science at nights. then eventually move into the political foray and follow option a. option c) do a bachelor of buisness / commerce, major in accounting, join an accounting firm and stick with that. get into local/state politics and see if i can shuffle my way through that

congratz eni

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as Randal Graves once put it. "What's the point in having an Internet connection if you're not using it to look up weird, [bleep]ed-up pictures of dirty sex you'll never have yourself?"

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get on runescape. im bored

thanks =] sadly tho i have already gotton it on a character before lol

i think you will find the blow out on Palin because her policies as opposed to her being an alaskan women. OT biden was the best choice Obama could have made. he has the experience Obama lacks and will be a great VP.

[hide=]While I disagree with many of Sen. John McCain's policies, I was willing to concede that he may at least make a wise, rational president and represent a step in the right direction for the nation. No longer. With his pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, he has shown a spectacular, even dangerous lack of judgment. In addition to her frightening lack of qualification to be vice president (much less president) of the United States, Palin is an evangelical, anti-choice, pro-gun, right-wing conservative who wants creationism taught in schools. She is currently under investigation by the Alaska Legislature for alleged abuse of office. Many of us in Alaska simply cannot imagine Palin having anything to do with U.S. foreign policy, domestic policy, national defense or the countless other affairs of federal governance. A particularly worrisome aspect of the Palin candidacy is her abysmal record on the environment during her over 9000 years as Alaska governor, and how that would translate into national environmental policy if she became vice president. Her environmental record as governor of the nation's "last frontier" deserves close examination Climate change. Although Alaska is ground zero in the crisis of global warming, Palin has done virtually nothing to address the problem except hold meetings and appoint a "climate sub-cabinet" that likewise has done little. Lots of talk, no action. Although in the past over 9000 years the Arctic summer sea ice shrunk to the lowest levels ever recorded, Palin apparently does not believe it is human-induced or cause for alarm. She was asked to establish an Alaska Office on Climate Change, an Alaska Climate Response Fund (based on a tax on Alaska oil production) and emissions reduction targets for Alaska, but has taken no action on those requests. Polar bears. This summer, Palin filed suit against the Bush administration over the federal listing of polar bears as threatened, saying that her opposition was based on a "comprehensive scientific review." But when asked to release the scientific review, she refused. The document, later obtained by the public (from the federal government), clearly shows that, contrary to Palin's assertions, the state of Alaska's marine mammal scientists agreed with the federal conclusions that the polar bears are in serious trouble because of global warming and loss of their sea ice habitat, and that they would be gone from Alaska by 2050. Palin clearly decided to oppose the listing in order to protect Arctic oil and gas development, then publicly misrepresented the basis for her decision, and then tried to conceal all of that. Having run for office on a platform of honesty and transparency, this behavior was neither. Her extreme position here puts her to the political right of the Bush /Cheney administration. Endangered species. Earlier this year, Palin approved a $2 million state appropriation for a conference on the "economic impacts" of the Endangered Species Act, designed to persuade the public that ESA listings were too costly and unwarranted. Recently she agreed to use the money instead to fund the state's lawsuit against the Bush administration over the polar bear listing -- a likely violation of the state constitutional provisions on appropriation. She opposes additional species listings and other protections in Alaska, where many species are at risk because of climate change and other threats. Predator control. Palin approved and expanded the state's aerial predator control program, where wolves are shot from aircraft and bears hunted from aircraft and killed upon landing. This year, her state biologists even dragged 14 newborn wolf pups from their den and, having already shot their parents, then shot each of the pups in the head at close range. Last year, her administration offered a $150 bounty for each wolf killed until the bounty was ruled illegal by the courts. Hundreds of wolves are killed each year by this antiquated state program that has no scientific justification whatsoever, but rather is designed to appease Palin's urban sport hunter supporters. Pebble mine. Palin aggressively opposed the "clean water initiative" on the August ballot in Alaska (which then failed), favoring instead foreign mining company desires for fewer government regulations controlling their toxic effluent into salmon streams. She has supported virtually any and all mining proposals that have come her way, even likely the enormous Pebble gold and silver mine proposed in the Bristol Bay watershed. That plan put at risk the largest runs of sockeye salmon in the world, where this summer fishermen caught more than 27 million salmon. Exxon Valdez oil spill damages. Palin refuses to push Exxon to pay the government for the unanticipated environmental injuries from the disastrous 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. Almost 20 years later, the private case is still unresolved and the governments likewise have yet to collect full payment from Exxon. Shortly before Palin took office in 2006, the governments presented Exxon with a demand to pay $92 million for this additional environmental damage, but her administration has since not pressed the issue nor taken Exxon to court to collect the money. Meanwhile, Exxon reaps record profits from Alaska. Trans Pacific shipping. Palin repeatedly has been asked by coastal residents and organizations to enhance the safety of merchant shipping through Alaska's Aleutian Islands, a primary shipping route between Asia and North America, but she's done nothing. Citizens want better vessel tracking, powerful rescue tugs along the route and a risk assessment. While her predecessor funded a scoping study, the Palin administration has not appropriated one dime to improve shipping safety through the Aleutians, and says it will take no further action to reduce risk for several years into the future. The pattern is clear. On the environment, Sarah Palin is essentially George W. Bush, [bleep] Cheney and perhaps James Watt rolled into one, but with a more pleasant demeanor. At a time when the nation and world urgently need strong environmental leadership from the United States, it is important to look beyond charisma and carefully consider the environmental implications of our vote in November.[/hide] grabbed from another site. looks like a quality leader

[hide=] There is no article by that name. You are referring to Levonorgestel, which only works in the first 72 hours after intercourse. This leads to one problem, and one fallacy in the pro-life argument. The problem is that not all rape cases are reported within 72 hours, and some even go unreported altogether. It becomes impossible for a woman in such a situation to get the medication - unless that is, you honestly suggest we should punish rape victims for not coming forward within the first 72 hours by not offering them an abortion. Nor is it 100% efficient either - anything less than 100% would still leave a possible need for an abortion open. The fallacy is that pro-life demonstrators argue life begins at conception. 72 hours after fertilisation is still a life to them nonetheless, thus logically they cannot argue this would be a suitable alternative to an abortion. A child which may or may not philosophically exist depending on when you deem life to have started. Giving blanket rights to a life whose existence remains such a controversial argument with strong points on both sides is ludicrous. Hence why it should be left for the woman to decide what she deems as the start of life; and if a woman does believe life starts at conception, not to opt for an abortion and have the child. Diplomatic experience with Canada hardly equips a person for diplomacy with Iran. It would be like saying, "That nurse has worked in a care home - let her do brain surgery". Not the point he made. Nice strawman though. Obama can't help the fact he's black (not unless he had plastic surgery anyway - and why should he?). McCain has a choice over his VP nomination, and there were many people better qualified for VP than Palin in the Republican Party. McCain saw he was suffering in the polls and wouldn't stand a chance unless he had some major fightback come November. He went for shock to try and appeal to Obama's weakest group of support - Hillary's women supporters. For this he chose Palin. It's really as simple to interpret as political moves come. to the first point Im pretty sure you dont have to report being raped to get the pills, I believe they are over the counter. Also, most teenagers if they were ashamed to admit it could probably call a friend to drive them to a pharmacy and not ask questions. Also, I have said that I would accept abortions being legal for something like the first trimester which would still allow time if they found out the pills failed. My main concern is stopping late term abortions and encouraging people to not have early term abortions. As to the statement of a pro life argument saying conception is life, just because most pro life people will say that doesnt mean its universal. I prefer immensely the plan b pills to later term abortions, and if most abortions were prevented by the taking of those pills it would be a near perfect outcome to the definition of life, I agree the choice to abort is the womans in that case, what we need to do legally is make sure the definition of life is not pushing on infantacide. I agree she doesnt have major foreign policy experience but vice president does lend itself to training yes mccain did pick her partially for being female, just like how obama was promoted by the party because he was black it is a fair comparison. [/hide] I think quite a few teenagers whether they be raped or not would not like to confront a pharmicist about plan b pills. i can imagine it would be a degrading experience to go through, and i cant imagine a friend would particullary want to buy them for you as well, for exactly the same reason. Im quite glad that you agree with me about creationism and the fact she lacks actual foreign policy, dipping your toe in the water doesnt mean you can swim. but there is a real chance McCain may die during his presidency and would you be confident with this women running the country? And on the Obama being black note. USA is roughly 10% black, but 50% female... so honestly for a purely political move hilary would have been a better option, going in that vein of thought anyway

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true, and in a society where image is everything it is a factor im sure McCain used in deliberation. but it SHOULD have no say on the politics. unfortunatly the fact she is A) a women B) a hot women will merely give her a few votes from people who have no idea about politics i only hope that the people who would otherwise have voted for McCain realise the mistake they made and swap to Obama in at least the same numbers that un-educated americans who dont care about politics will simply vote republican.

they have been putting off collisions for quite some time now

On the Sarah Palin. She reminds me of the ultimate massivly [bleep]y soccer mum. the one that twists and turns everything said and done, while silently sticking knives in your back. Her induction as VP was nothing more then a 20minuete bashing of obama. (Okay 17minuete, the other 3 was saying how good McCain is) Now on to her issues Pro-life, even in cases of rape and incest. Considering she is a women i find this stance completly disturbing, Being pro-choice i believe in the women having the right to do with her body what she decides, to give no choice even in the case of rape just disturbes me. Wants creationism taught in school Science class should be for science, the debat about this should end there. to imply that creationism is a valid scientific proof would be a disgrace to the works and methods of basic scientific princibles. Has a lot of experience By far one of the funniest things i have heard from this whole political campaign was the media talking about her experience. she started in a PTA of a school (58% finishing rate) she then became a mayor of a small town (9000 approx) and then became the governor of Alaska (population 650,000 and has been there for only 15 months). to me this adds up to, less experience then Obama has. and a real killer in McCain's one real winning factor he had over Obama (that being experience) Obama has the VP of a very experienced washington campainer. McCain has an alaskan hockey mom. Has international experience being close to canada and russia doesnt actually give you internation experience. again, one of the funnier things said this election. Believes iraq is the work of god Actually quite sad that she believes this, Iraq isnt even in the holy land. and last time i checked, God being ultimatly powerfull doesnt need a war to gain oil. Has a Handicapped child Ginger touched on this subject briefly, as im sure many others have. While having a child with a disability is a bonus to your Pro-life ideals and how you support it. it will and has to take time away from your presidencial responsibilities. if McCain is elected and dies, can she take the time to run a country, deal with 5 children (one being a newborn with down-syndrome) and help to try manage her daughters life, who is pregnant at the age of 17. These are just a few reasons i think she is a poor candidate for VP and i believe a last ditch effort by McCain to try and salvage something from this election. p.s politics and religion should never co-exist, when this happens dangerous and stupid things often ensue.

Scientists dont know exactly what will happen. but think, if we didnt start "playing god" would any of the advnacments you mentioned be here today? What this may create tho, is another possible energy source which i think is quite exciting. not to mention a detailed look into the possible creation of the universe and black holes. You have to realise just how rediculously small the chances of creating a black hole that lasts more then a second are.

where is the source of Obama snorting coke? i think you will find GWB was the coke snorter / alcoholic