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Blue: 6/50 12%...im looking at dark beasts, dropped 10 blues/ 70 darkbeasts thats 14%. It is pretty close. However... Summoners care for crimsons mainly, therefore 4/50~8%, much less than the benchmark of about 70% from waterfiends.

Gotta love Joe's dmed tbh. I never ever wore that outfit at all, berserker/ neizoit > dmed. Its such an easy quest requirement for a great overall helm too.

Just borrow one, thats the best way w/o collecting the 17m and take any risks for you.

Thanks for the guide, the ice melting part wus a bit confusing at 1st but it isnt that bad.

Gj taming the horsey ross

Congratz 80+ is truly something.

I agree on this, although personally I'm back to having 2 accounts. I see what you mean, my cousin kept making silly pure accounts that are fated to be abandoned. If he placed all the effort onto a sole account, it might rival my 107.

I guess msb was just a stepping stone. The accuracy is non-comparable with rune c'bow/ bone bow which you've mentioned. At the end, it is its cheap cost (the weapon, not the ammo) and special attack that is noteworthy, not use-worthy in limited situations (such as war requirement or being silly and not using c'bow).

LOL =D> =D> =D> Wanna Be Mods. :lol: Nice. I'm sorry. Was there something funny in that? All this wanna-be-modding has to stop. Wow christ..that's a lot of rule 1s. What's Legacy Punishment? They're offenses prior to the recent appeal system update.

Just surprised that the mods reviewed this very old account at pg 1000 something of the Account review thread. I'm just hyped to see its bank again (stats are garbage of all garbage :geek: )

It was a great read, I bet 10 months ago you weren't sure that you can achieve these goals. 10/10 just fantastic.

:ohnoes: But as expected, you have luck and moneymaking skill to recover that, that's very fine job over the span of 2 weeks.

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That's pretty nice loot, I would kill myself literally to get that drop

I'll just wondering if you've included the banking/ traveling times to your armoured zombie rates? also was it 110k per hr? Did you try using a combat summon along with the zombies? Anyway the use of combat summon, geyser at the cost of 3k GE, around 6k self made and provide even 3k exp in ranged in enough of a reason to use one in multi-way. It can tank - avoiding damage is better than healers. The only only situations which healers should be used in multi-way...are boss monsters tbh.

Mage's hit ok on them, but it's not worth it at all (yielding about 80k per 150~200 demons) If you melee, you either protect melee or d hally and less than 25 kills per 14 mins (that rate achieved with maxed melees.) Not a wise choice at all for maging/ melee unless for slaying.

I don't suppose you can get 60+ due to prayer, but you got a decent total being a zerker and very good bank. Maybe just train on a skill you like? Overall 9.5/10 from me.

Nice that's just uber. Any goals up ahead?

See my 'slayer sucks' thead for a 1,600 page debunking of your post. Slayer is a slower, less efficient method of training that has become obsolete. I understand your stand point, but yes your method is fast but charm cost raises SIGNIFICANTLY. I'm no fan of money making but our goals maybe alike. Oh yea your thread is great just tooooo lengthy- measuring, trying to get maximum results with least time wasn't my way of gaming :wall: We aren't machines to begin with. :lol: eventually I'll have no intention to powertrain for charms (currently 94 slayer with charms enough to get 92, ~7.7k crimsons to yaks).

Void w/ spear < Dhides/ karils w/ spear Guthans is tricky to use, you protect mage cause its melee armor and weak against mage. Pray range when your hp is low w/ healers. Pray range when hp isn't full w/o healers Should use pineapple pizzas in your case. Piety on all the time? No, too costly, guides recommend u do flick it on when hp's at yellow or red.

"why do people relate charms to slayer"= "Why is summoning related to slayer" You can train summoning with slayer. "Charms have nothing to do with slayer" wrong, summoning has everything to support slayer "ppl tell me that training slayer up helps you get more charms" What I said: Wrong but rather the composition of your charms are improved from your slayer tasks. (assuming they don't have the money and the knowledge of lobs and fiends) What comp says: But you get better portion of charms if you aren't slaying but by doing rock lobs and waterfiends. (Assuming all money are gathered involving tedious work) You're better off "training higher on GOOD monsters then obtaining charms is MUCH faster then slayer" (This amount of time + MONEYMAKING (to cover all the costs)+ 100% attention during charm collecting= Total Time) is it less than Total amount of time with slayer and by how much?? How much is a charm this way? How can I earn that to achieve it? "The brainless argument makes no sense at all - we're arguing about charms, not how much intelligence it takes to kill a specific monster compared to slaying assigned ones." 1)Your specific monsters Rock lobs "You must bring premium equip, setup, know how to trap!" Waterfiends "Crush WEAPON, healers, pray range" You need these knowledge for effective charms in order to work. Are they complex? (That's why it requires the use of guides) 2)Slayer is the simplest way for charms, you just don't have to worry over MONEY as you gather them slowly. For this very reason that requires no brain work.

1) why the heck should you even care. cos u play rs too 2) maybe i dont want to tell you you can walk out of the conversation 3) stop interrupting what i am working on you're gaming so technically it isn't work that is interrupted 4) isnt there something more important you can come up with? cos u play rs too 5) and no i dont care what youre level is. cos u play rs too 6) and for the love of guthix dont keep asking me! cos u play rs too But yea some people have that kind of mindset (like me :shock: )/ reasonings/ motives, but you treated them like intrusions. Maybe you're being paranoid.

[hide=] Only true if one plans to train slayer. By the same token, challenge scrolls are the best possible way to train melee; it's the fastest way to get melee and challenge scroll, and your wasting your time if you get them after 99. But, like slayer, challenge scrolls provide 0 benefit. The whole 'slayer is the most efficient way to train slayer' argument is baloney. Slayer offers far worse 'composition of your charms' then ANY of the summoning powertraining methods. [/hide] I did base 'composition of your charms' from the fact that only a segment of players actually train summoning are mostly 100+, a typical player may not know waterfiends/ lobs at all, let alone having the equipment and attempting at all. Lack of luxury kills the summoning powertraining methods, even if its true. So what do you do if you can't use waterfiends / rock lobs?? by killing Random giants? NPCs? (That's where my original argument of composition of charms should've belonged) Slayer would be the sensible (or brainless) method for average people after certain level is achieved (like 75?). If they don't have it/ decent combat stats, then that's their issue. That's where compfreak, your fastest armoured zombies method comes in for people who want combat stats up. To summarize, we all have different situations, so you can't go with 'the truth' all the time.

I'm just fascinated with Jagex's raw food plummeting strategy tbh...I just don't see it everyday... Really what a way to evaporate entrepreneur earnings...