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Add more exp per shot too, it trumps slayer dart in every which way, higher max, more exp and cheaper, only a pure idiot would choose slayer dart over wave if they have the level to do wave. Or someone who doesn't want to bother selling and rebuying runes as opposed to just using the free ones that you get. Besides, the slayer staff looks better, and it has a higher magic bonus, and it shoots faster. Just generally better in every way, yup. 1. You still get enough bloods back to cover your trips unless you start with like 90 bloods. 2. They both cast at the same speed 3. Its barrows, and the whole point of the two spells is that your mage bonus doesen't matter as their def is so low.

The prices had already exceeded 100m+ before the t-trail update, so that cannot possibly be a reason unfortunately.

The only people buying them are other price manipulators who further push the price up. People who would actually use the items are forced out of the market and onto other items or just buy on the g.e. And yes merchants would have probably pushed the price up a bit with godwars giving them more money and more people to supply to, but as you say nowere near as much. I beleive that w2 kind of controlled the market the same way the G.E does, people used w2 prices as true prices, and merchants had a very hard time moving the price too far up or down on w2, but with this they arent merchanting, they are manipulating the prices way past what they should be.

Yeah

I think i'm doing something wrong. Blowing up the frogs and 1 licking 'drop' as soon as they were in my invent, but it took me 5-6 of them to get 1 bird to come, then the rest just blew up. I got like 15 kills in about 12 bellow's full of gas.

This ties into the whole junk trading thing, but let me explain. I'll use the example of 3rd age Platelegs. Today's G.E price: [ GE ]: [M] 3rd age platelegs: 20.2m (Today: No gain/loss.) Today's Street/RSOF Price: 200m (taken from a thread on RSOF today) W2 Street Price before trade restrictions: Around 20m Now imo the w2 price of items was the true price, a totally free market where items were traded at the prices people wanted them, totally correct at the time, so that imo is the correct price of an item. Isn't the argument for junk trading that the G.E prices of items are 'outragous' and 'too low/high', i can see the oposite, the price now is more outragous than anything. From what i've seen, these prices have been hugely manipulated, people buying/selling these items nowdays dont want the item, they just want to manipulate the prices and make money off them, these items arent items they are currency now, which is stupid, just plain stupid, they werent introduced to be used that way. I know i've only used one example here, but it applies for nearly all 3a items, alot of t trail items and most items over the price of 20m. I am totally flabbergastered why people refer to the RSOF prices as the 'true' prices, they arent, they just plain arent, i can't even convey my disgust at how far out of proportion these items have been stretched, its almost sickening that people have manipulated the market this much. The only people buying these items are other price manipulators who further push the price up. People who would actually use the items are forced out of the market and onto other items or just buy on the g.e.

I brought this up a few months ago in the debate club: viewtopic.php?f=143&t=663369 But yeah i totally agree, i read the news posts and they practically tell me everything about the update, theres no fun in it. The behind the scenes are the worst offenders though, before BTS you NEVEr got people going 'OMG i thought your were releasing ...... i want it now!' and stating jagex lied to them and got their hopes up, BTS leads to unwanted spamming and flaming as people expect certain things and don't get them.

Add more exp per shot too, it trumps slayer dart in every which way, higher max, more exp and cheaper, only a pure idiot would choose slayer dart over wave if they have the level to do wave.

Prayer definately, remember rannars arent the only herbs that make it profitable. Take 3 prayer pot (4)'s and pick up any herb over irit. That will last enough time while your invent fills up with herbs.

Its a great move, im sures theres quite a few pleayers that will buy another months membership when the quest is released.

Seems like a good way, works well for the lower levels

These arrows are a right pain to make, just getting the achey logs takes so long, think i'll just buy them off the g.e

Bumping your guide because im trying for that nifty little hat What are the best arrows to use, brutal or regular ogre? Also what's the best way to get them? make them or buy them?

Get rid of the official cw worlds have a 'collect' option on bank chests would be nice.

Finished my goal:

From my experience thats a bad setup. Since they stopped mage prayer negating their breath, praying is a waste of money. The best setup is to use mind sheild and then the best melee defence gear possible. Take a super set and monks, and a back animal summon if you have one, fill it with food. Then just kill without praying using 2-3 monks per kill max, and pick up the bones and sell on g.e You profit from the bones as they pay for the food.

Webber: I mentioned both of those points in the last section, and used med g.e price for calculations, but yeah higher profits are easy. Nopnoob: I'd say a week maybe without no-lifing it, its easy to do 1k mithril ore a day (about 85k exp.)

I think he's taking the long route back to #1, slaying for charms instead of wasting millions on rock lobs etc.

Unless the new item that's release is a single combat boss it won't be junk traded as people will team it with coinshar, putting the item into the g.e at mid price.

Ty for the positive replies

Imo some people are given a lucky gene when they start rs, some not, i know half the people i know are super lucky on drops, half arent lol

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If he's mage based wouldn't the att levels not gain him any levels anyway?

I keep around 2-3m in mine too, and i have it on 10 coal 5 fish, it doesent make the best profit but its good for me as i use coal.

For the price any mystic is good, its all around the same price and looks good.