unclebilly1

Points for Crimson Raiders: 193; Points for Legendz: 50

DK + ZH teaming, surprised they didn't pile each other with as poor as they fight :lol: Did ZH roll out in addy????? GJ SE

Nice Dragonwood. Always a lot more fun to fight 17 v 17 than 22 v 14. Good to see people looking to make the best of a situation rather than just fight a lopsided war for the sake of a victory topic :thumbsup:

Points for LGZ: 206 Points for Alk: 50

Points for PF: 193 Ponts for NK: 50

Glomp :] Yeah, Draco just signed up for the War List, he's never been much into warring but has decided to give it a go. He did a pretty decent job today sniping also :

Ummmm . . . no? Here's the declaration and the acceptance, offered by them and accepted by us, copied straight from the thread. The rules you're talking about were the first offered, after a month of negotiating the rules were set as follows: Nevermind, 2pm EST and 7pm BST is fine, see you guys the 14th. And Nox, here's the IP of the person who posted the fake topic:

Thank you Nox, didn't realize the other topic wasn't posted by an official. I've locked it and edited our post. Thank you for the fight. :

OK Nox, didn't realize this wasn't an official post. I'll lock this and edit our post. Thanks.

Also, you guys fail at reading the declaration topic you took so long to accept . . I'll quote it directly: I'm all for spirit of the rules and all that, but if someone takes one step out of bounds it will not affect the war. Sometimes with lag it happens even if you don't mean it to . . . So we'd agree to the spirit of that rule . . that is: if someone goes out of bounds by a square or two, they need to immediately turn back around and get in bounds. No harm there, and no loss as a result. If tons of clan members are doing it, then it will be a loss for the clan doing it. If anyone is flagrantly out of bounds (like 6 or more squares out of bounds) then it would be a forfeit. Neither clan is going to be going out of bounds on purpose so this won't be an issue anyways. You know what we mean. Don't be that correctly were talking about running around the 10 trees. This will be fine.

Thank you for the fight PoR. Link to declaration: viewtopic.php?f=216&t=794431 Por Starting: 21 TDMWL Starting: 20 Our Starting: Our Ending: Aftermath: Pic from the declaration topic where you agree that minor out-of-bounds will not result in DQ: I'm all for spirit of the rules and all that, but if someone takes one step out of bounds it will not affect the war. Sometimes with lag it happens even if you don't mean it to . . . So we'd agree to the spirit of that rule . . that is: if someone goes out of bounds by a square or two, they need to immediately turn back around and get in bounds. No harm there, and no loss as a result. If tons of clan members are doing it, then it will be a loss for the clan doing it. If anyone is flagrantly out of bounds (like 6 or more squares out of bounds) then it would be a forfeit. Neither clan is going to be going out of bounds on purpose so this won't be an issue anyways. You know what we mean. Don't be that correctly were talking about running around the 10 trees. This will be fine. GF PoR.

Real topic posted.

3x DK or ZH?

thank you for the respect that we should have gotten. and my father should have gotten. Durai, you need to get a clue. You're intentionally stirring up drama, I've already asked TDM to stop posting and your leadership has asked for the same. Get with the program.

Agreed . . . ALL TDM OFF THIS TOPIC FROM THIS POINT FORWARD

Only because he was asking for a full-out rematch . . I was saying why we'd be hesitant to do so, 2 wars with 2 problems is not a good start. He is speaking for your clan all over this topic, if he doesn't want to be involved, I'm fine with that. But he should stop quoting and posting me if he doesn't want me to respond to it. The evidence has all been presented, and the Mods will rule on it. If you want the discussion to stop, then call your members off from posting here. I will do the same if you agree. Or, you clan leadership can request this topic be locked pending the outcome, you guys would have to request it since you guys wrote the topic. I can lock it, but not without your asking. If you prefer someone else do it, you can PM any Mod and they can take care of it.

I never bumped an old topic. I said I'm not taking advice from someone who flames youtube vids. I don't know if it was your dad, but he said he was, and made a whole topic about "please take it easy on my boy, he's only 13 years old :( " The grammar used was pretty horrible, so everyone assumed it was not your "dad," rather it was you just acting silly. In fact, he spelled "flammin" exactly like you did there . . . Anyway, you've got a lot to learn about flaming. I have never flamed you. No one on Tip.it has flamed you. The reactions you get are all based on your demeanor. If you want respect, you have to act respectful. Not that it matters to me either way, I just said I'm not taking advice from someone who would do this: The fact of the matter is, you've never made any apology or concession for this. Which is fine, you don't have to. But don't expect me to take you seriously, ever. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. But of course I'm going to respond to it. If he was in my clan, I would bar him from posting here, he's not doing himself or your clan any favors. But it's your clan, do with it as you wish ;) There's already a discussion topic among the clan staff. I'm obviously not participating in the decision because I'm biased :lol:

you guys started the drama you put me up on rsc, i didn't know what flamming was untill you guys put me up there, and i was only 13 years old when you done it I posted the RSC topic after you flamed all of our vids. And I posted the exact topic as I posted on Tip.it, which lots of clans do, feel free to check, there are several there now. Your age is irrelevant, you either can be mature of you can be immature. The consensus was for the latter. Your "dad" coming on RSC making a fuss only made you look sillier. The fact of the matter is . . if you agree to a melee+binds fight, you can't complain about no fire blasts after . . common sense really. Calling us cheaters for using binds was laughable, and everyone did have a nice laugh about it. On a positive note, you guys have got significantly better in the last few months. It would be interesting to see what you could do against us if you followed the rules. No bump, that topic is long gone. But apparently your attitude is not. Why wouldn't we want to fight TK? . . . let's see . . . because we've fought you twice. The first time we destroyed you and you flamed all of our youtube vids. The second time you blatantly broke the rules by bringing way more rangers than is allowed. I have no problem fighting TK . . but I'm starting to doubt that we can have a drama-free and clean fight. Even after we told you guys you were breaking rules with too many rangers, you still let them range. It would have been easy to call all but 3 off, but you didn't.

Why would we like what happened? It seems pretty obvious. And I don't think I'll be taking advice from someone who flamed all of our youtube vids (Sir Durai :roll: ).

So you admit it had no bearing on the outcome of the war. Thanks for confirming what we were saying all along. We're saying that 8 rangers had a huge impact on the war. At the beginning, all of our guys were in robes, and a ranger will tear up a binder in robes. Our guys' food and prayer were seriously depleted right at the get go before we figured out how many rangers you had . . . at that time all of our guys got out of robes and into rune and tried to slow down the rangers, but the damage had already been done. We had little or no binding for the rest of the fight. We weren't given that same opportunity because we only brought 3 rangers as per the rules. Also, you guys attacked before the fight even started (see everyone calling "off": No, it didn't affect the war any more than our guy going out. Here's one of your members out-of-bounds, check the minimap. This didn't affect the war any more than our guy either. There's always small rules broken in a fight. Minor out of bounds is one of them. Bringing 8 or 9 rangers to a 3-ranger cap war is a major one that does affect the war.

From the picture, TDM's member was only a couple steps out of bounds, additionally he broke bounds where there was nothing to tank around and he wasn't praying, at a point where we were already down 7-3. And seeing how there is only 1 person in your pile (Soulja Melle) its pretty obvious that it didn't effect the fight. Bringing 8/18 rangers did have a huge impact on the fight, for the first few minutes of the war our binders were getting wrecked, we though because of excellent ranger sniping, it turned out to be mass ranger sniping. Had we had 8 rangers we could have we could have done the same, but we limited ourselves to what the rules called for. By the time we saw you had way more range snipers than were permitted, our binders had been significantly lowered in food and pray, which would directly affect the outcome. I wasn't able to make it to this war in time, so I watched. I was hoping for a drama-free fight, since last time we fought one of your members flamed every one of our youtube videos after our last fight. This'll make 2 out of 2 wars with you guys now with unnecessary drama.

TDMWL would be very interested in a Matched Opts or PKRI . . . we already have a war for Wednesday the 17th though :cry: You interested in fighting us on another day?

We're on it for one reason . . . it's guaranteed wars. We prefer PvP, but practicing in CWA gives us the reps we need to be good when we fight PvP. And the wars are fun for the most part. While it's always better for recruitment and whatnot to be ranked higher, we really don't care where we're ranked, as long as we get some action. I was the one who added the points . . I also told the person who asked that the wars were not tallied until Monday, and the Memberlist in question had gained a combat level in the meantime, hence the one point difference. So let's not use "errors" to take pot-shots at Mods that had nothing to do with it, OK? ;) As for the clan asking about the 1 point discrepancy, I don't have a problem with them asking, either. Mods/CL's do make mistakes, and usually the people in the clans affected are the quickest to notice. As long as it's asked in a non-confrontational way, I have no problem checking it out.

Shouldn't we get 195? =s 50+110+35=195 Check out my response on the other topic . . . there combat average was 109 when I did the addition.

Shouldn't this be 200? 50+37+113=200 Probably had a couple changes to the ML that changed the combat average. I did some of them over the weekend and some of them today, their average was 112 at the time I added them up.