Sumpta

I recently came back to RS after a 2 year break. I guess I'm a veteran by today's standards and I used to be pretty active on this forum, so maybe the HYT clan is an option? Do the HYT'ers dg? I've been doing dg solo up till now but I'm getting really lonely in those huge dungeons. I'd like to be part of a clan that dg's, but is not dedicated to it, or at least, not completely filled with pro's. I still have to learn about dging in group and I have cold feet about it. All the guides are scaring me off rather than making me excited about it. Preferably, I'd just like to learn together with a few like-minded souls. I want good xp, of course, but I don't want people to go into a hissy fit when a team member, be it me or someone else, makes a mistake or isn't fast enough. I can't be the only one to feel this way, right? I've been a member of a very elitist clan before and that didn't work out at all. I may have (had) the stats, but I'm not up for joining the clan chat every single second that I'm online and I'd prefer not to get slammed for this if I happen to run into a fellow clan member on a farm run, for example. I'm an adult, I work long hours during the day, so yeah, sometimes I'll be relaxing and reading or watching tv while getting some skilling done. RS in not my main occupation. Aside from this, I'm happy to contribute where I can and I'll help maintain the citadel (once I figure out how it works :-)).

Thank you so much for your response. It looks like I'm not that much out of the loop, which is both reassuring and frightening considering my long break. Anyway, I'll start planning if and how to deal with dungeoneering then. Thanks again!

Hi guys. Yes, another "I'm back. HELP!" topic. I quit RS two years ago, because I'd achieved everything I'd wanted to and because I didn't feel very happy about the direction the game was headed for. I know RS is a MMORPG, but I've always been a "lone wolf". I like doing things by myself, so dungeoneering was a bit of a miss for me. Clans were tough for me as well. While I liked the idea of joining a clan, I just wasn't able to meet the participation requirements most clans set. On a whim, I renewed my membership for a month last Friday. I've been roaming around during the weekend, starting on the new quests and the new tasks, getting lost in Taverley and reading up a bit on the tip.it website :-). Not that much seems to have changed, but I'd like to know about the major stuff if there is any. A few concrete questions: - what are the dungeoneering happenings? Did they make changes to the skill? It's my only non-99 stat, but I hated the skill a lot back in the day. Any advice to train it as painlessly as possible would be very welcome. I did some solo dungeoneering, the rest of my levels were reached by lamps and pengs. - did slayer change in any way? I was still around for the new dungeon etc. Any combat gear changes I need to get on top of? Right now, my standard gear is my old combo of bandos + berserker + fury + neit + whip + dragon defender + dragon boots. Did slayer lose popularity? I found many empty spots this weekend... - any news on farming, herblore and agility is welcome too. As is anything else anyone would like to add. P.S. Not to tear open old wounds, but wth was Jagex thinking when they introduced that spin wheel?

The walking effect makes me think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail's coconut horse riding. Very funny post.

Ugh, this. I loved the solo gameplay in a multi-player setting, it's why I chose RS over other online games. Then again, many group aspects in RS are so terrible (mini-games, DG teams,...). Maybe a year to rethink and update their team- and clan-based content isn't that bad an idea. It's just that I don't trust that Jagex recognizes this problem. I foresee them adding activities rather than perfecting what they have, frustrating the solo players even more. In any case, I'm planning to let my membership run out in a few weeks time. It's time for a long break.

Dude, everybody on this thread is saying the exact same thing... You don't reset until you have done ALL you can. In your case 1-27. If you reset, you have to do ALL floors again. If you reset, do every floor and don't get a new floor, you simply reset again at the end of the road. Do all the floors you can, reset. Do all the floors you can, reset. Rinse, repeat. The higher your reset number gets ("prestige"), the more xp you'll be getting per dungeon, so you want to do as many floors as possible.

Once you have done a reset, you have to do ALL the floors again to get the maximum prestige. So, yes, if you reset after 1-5, you have to start at floor 1 again. (Or you can mix the numbers up, but you do have to do all the floors for max prestige.) This is why you don't want to reset before having done all the floors that are already unlocked. The more floors you have done before your reset, the higher the prestige you "locked" by resetting. In your case, you can now do 1-27 in one run without resetting. By the time you get there, you may have unlocked even more floors, so you need to do those too at that point, until you can do no more. Then you reset and start all over.

Or you could do something else entirely if you don't enjoy DG. Still, it's not a bad idea to invest a bit into understanding the basics of the skill... you might be missing out on something you'd really like. And it's not just the chaotic weapons that are worthwhile. A gem bag (really good when slaying) and a scroll of life are great and not that costly. Anyway, non-DG plan: you have a really good cb and slayer level, but your other skills are a bit behind. Why not work on them? Keep slaying, you're at the level where it gets really fun, it should be profitable enough and quite fast too. Do farm (herb) runs between tasks. You can make good profits and get up that farming level at the same time. If you feel that's too slow, mix it up with some tree runs. Get your daily bstaves in varrock and sell them for a profit or save them up for some massive crafting xp. Save up money for your remaining con levels and a gilded altar to burn those dragon bones. Try to get in herb assists every once in a while (for example at Daemonheim on W117). You'll get good and free herblore xp and unlock overloads - if you're into bosses, they will be a great asset. If you want to get away from skilling and take a break, do the quests you haven't done yet that have a reward you'd like. (Construction xp, for example.) Do weekly distractions like the circus (agility, mage and ranged xp) and penguins for fast xp in tedious skills. Manage your kingdom for resources and/or profit. You could set yourself a total level goal, for example by trying to get all your skills 75+ or 80+. The better your overall skills, the easier DG will be as well, especially if you're going to solo. Continue to mine LRC, keep the gold bars you make for quick crafting levels. This way, you mix things up a bit and get easy levels that could come in handy later. If you really don't like skilling and want to do more combat, maybe look for a clan in your time zone that suits you. Whether we like it or not, Jagex is implementing more and more group activities for which you'll need partners. In a clan, you'll make friends to go out boss hunting with. Some clans also have skilling contests and the like. You'll learn the tricks of the trade with them, making it easier for you to go out soloing afterwards. Many clans have their own guides and forums to look for advice. If you don't like the clan idea, try chatting with people when you're slaying. You'll meet people who are online when you are and most slayers are a friendly bunch once you get them to start chatting instead of just standing silently next to each other in the same room. Try out sticking to a home world, you'll be running into the same people a lot (especially during herb runs). Also a great way to meet people.

This. I didn't get into DG that much when the skill was released (I was busy maxing out my other skills) and now that only DG is left, I have no viable options whatsoever to train this skill because 1) solo is ridiculously slow xp compared with the effort you have to put into it. Doing the highest floors available to me and discounting the time wasted on C1 rushes at the start of the cycle, I get maybe 20k xp/hour. Of course, that's barring unfortunate deaths by a mercenary leader in one of first rooms, for example. Certain bosses are becoming a pain to solo as well, as you advance in floor level. 2) random teams offer a maximum of frustration and a huge risk of getting stuck because of rage quits/kicks. 3) pro dg teams are unattainable for me, because I am too "noob" at 81 DG. I mean, seriously? I have 81 DG, maxed skills yet can't find a team? It's mind-boggling that a lvl 92 can't find a pro team. Jagex completely misjudged the RS community if they thought that a team based skill would magically work out fine. It certainly shows they haven't played their own mini-games with other players than their colleague mods.

I changed names a long while back and forgot to report it here. What was your previous RuneScape name that you are listed under on the highscores?: Sumpta13 What is your current RuneScape display name?: La_Sumpta What Tip.it highscore list(s) are you currently added to?: P2P

Yes, it does.

Thanks! Took me long enough...

*raises hand* I am one of those apparently rare people who wants a middle ground between maximum xp and a relaxing activity. I don't want to discover every nook of the dungeon at all and I prefer to hit a decent xp/hour, but I really don't feel good about being pressured into rushing either. I'd just like a few team mates who can be nice, cooperative and efficient of the non-crazy variety. I get so scared off by the DG worlds that all my xp currently comes from soloing and penguins/lamps/tears. It will soon be my last unmaxed skill, and I'm seriously considering just dumping DG forever and never truly maxing out. I'd even get 99 rc again, my most hated skill, instead of working on DG, while I genuinely feel it's an enjoyable game.

I was never old school, but it's been a few years since I was active here, anyway. Long before the glass-eating topic, to which my sig still refers after all that time, heh. I remember your name, vaguely. Rebdragon, Victor_Krum77, Goddess, Blue Lancer, How2PK, Ginger_Warrior and a few others I still remember as well. Have they all gone too?

Hi there, I'm looking for a DG clan or a clan that also DG's, or a set of people that are looking for a new DG team mate. Me: - Account: La_Sumpta, total 2457, all skills maxed except for DG (currently 81). - As for DG, I haven't teamed yet. I'd solo if the exp wasn't so terrible. I can't stand the DG worlds. I know all the basics of DG and have read up on the tactics in teaming. Still, I will have to go through a small learning curve and will probably need a bit of guidance the first few runs. I am a fast learner though, mature and sensible, and my levels should be an asset to any team. I seek: - A GMT-based clan. (I'm Belgian. And a girl, should that matter. An all-girl clan might be funny, not sure if they exist?) - A mature, friendly clan. - I don't care about the requirements and I'm not elitist, I'll join a lower level clan too. Important to me is that 1) You don't have absurd "participate 15 times/week or you're out" rules 2) I don't have to hang around in your clan chat every minute I'm online 3) Specifically for DG: I am not the type to rush rush rush. I'd prefer a sensible group that seeks a good balance between exp and fun to a "pro" group that frowns on not having a hood, for example. I don't intend to wander around aimlessly and cut every tree and mine every single rock in DG, but I'm not a fan of being pressured into rushing like a madman either. Like-minded souls may contact me!

What a ridiculous discussion. Obviously everybody plays as they choose and I'm guessing the majority of players mixes between the two. I know I do. Depends on my mood, what else I'm doing (reading or watching TV vs 100% concentration) and what skill I'm training. Some skills, I've trained at max efficiency; for some other skills, I muck around with the methods I like best even if they're less efficient. Simply put: I set my goals, I figure out how to achieve them, weighing the options, measuring efficiency versus what I like. If what I like matches the efficient route, so much the better. If not, tant pis as the French say, I'll do what I damn well please. Again, I believe most players play this way. What does annoy me is how judgemental some people are. And to be honest, I see the most judgement/argumentative behaviour coming from the max efficiency group of players. Discussions about how not repotting after x minutes is inefficient and stupid just make me want to smash my head into my keyboard. (Please don't start arguing over potting now, it's just an example.)

Oh please. Players who can take full advantage of the effigies HAVE invested in skills. They ARE skillers, because they've already gotten AT LEAST 91+ in the needed skills. Do you honestly think that people who got to 91+ in a skill are going to rely on effigies "because they can't be bothered" to train the skill normally? News flash: they already have invested in those skills. Investigating an effigy at level 97 gives 30k xp... at level 97, it also takes over a million xp to get to the next level. 30k xp is nothing more than a bonus in that scope, but not a viable training method! The final lamp gives similar xp tied to your level, so it's nothing more than a bonus either. Effigies are definitely an update for skillers. They're great for all-round players: skillers who do combat, or fighters who skill. It's the people who haven't got the levels and who rely on assist that lose out on most of the xp. I can't see how anyone could argue effigies are unbalanced. And yes, Jagex is providing players with alternative methods to train skills (penguins, circus, effigies,...). Nobody's ever going to like all the skills, but seeing how important they are to dungeoneering, it doesn't seem so unintelligent from Jagex's part to provide alternative, yet slower/limited ways to gain xp. I'm sorry, but the logic of the article is flawed/exaggerated. Effigies are rare drops and you'll never get 135k xp from them in one single skill. And even if you could, you would already need 10.6 million xp in that skill.

Double post.

All very true. Oh for the love of god *facepalm*. Yes, people do keep using it wrong. I did not. If you want to read up on the device of irony, I'd like to direct you to wikipedia or some similar encyclopedia. It comes in many forms and the one you're referring to is situational. It can also be verbal or dramatical. Irony thrives on a disparity and friction between two things. Like you said "something not expected to happen happening"; but just as much things unsaid but (unconsciously) said for example. So. From the years I've spent here, I dare to say that a lot of OT'ers are slightly condescending and arrogant. This is not necessarily an insult, I tend to be that too. I love Rebdragon, I do, but he can be a sarcastic and arrogant [wagon]. Actually, it sometimes seems to be the standard mode of communication on TIF to be a bit harsh. So one OT'er calling another arrogant when in fact he is being arrogant himself, without being aware of this hypocrisy and actually 'blaming' the other for what is in fact a shared arrogance, that IS ironical. Oh, I get it. You think I don't think I'm arrogant and condescending. On the contrary my dear, I most certainly do. Thus no irony. [/being a tool] ... [being a tool] I'm suppressing an eyetwitch at the 'my dear'. You're a pro. Its like blasphemy here in Australia (From what I've seen anyway). If a guy is younger the first response is "He's too immature". Yeah, and like that 24year old over there stripping in the corner and grabbing random girls as a bet isn't. @the rest, enough of the complaining. do it elsewhere. :mellow: The taboo on older woman - younger man is fading though, isn't it? I've dated younger guys, but in general, I'd say I do prefer elder guys. They tend to be a bit wiser and more experienced. But it really depends on the person, maturity isn't all about age. What I don't like much about elder guys than me at my current age, though, is that they're often starting to make plans towards marriage and settling, and they're quick to start putting pressure in that direction.

As long as this doesn't turn into a labeling excercise, I'm okay with it. I'm white, pinkish white actually (oh, you weren't asking about skin tone?) and Northern European.

Oh for the love of god *facepalm*. Yes, people do keep using it wrong. I did not. If you want to read up on the device of irony, I'd like to direct you to wikipedia or some similar encyclopedia. It comes in many forms and the one you're referring to is situational. It can also be verbal or dramatical. Irony thrives on a disparity and friction between two things. Like you said "something not expected to happen happening"; but just as much things unsaid but (unconsciously) said for example. So. From the years I've spent here, I dare to say that a lot of OT'ers are slightly condescending and arrogant. This is not necessarily an insult, I tend to be that too. I love Rebdragon, I do, but he can be a sarcastic and arrogant [wagon]. Actually, it sometimes seems to be the standard mode of communication on TIF to be a bit harsh. So one OT'er calling another arrogant when in fact he is being arrogant himself, without being aware of this hypocrisy and actually 'blaming' the other for what is in fact a shared arrogance, that IS ironical.

Says the guy who always sounds like someone pissed in his cornflakes every day of the week... RPG you can always reach me through private PM and if you ever have a message or question for ginger I can pass it on as we're still in touch. Goddess! Another person I sorely miss around these parts. You guys are making it very hard for me to keep the stiff upper lip thing going. Hope you (and your son!) are doing well!

Yeah, no kidding. He seems a bit... pretentious/condescending, if that's the vibe you're getting. WTF. I'm not sure whether to cry or to burst out laughing insanely at the irony of a TIF'er accusing someone of pretention. Okay, you guys have officially lost me with the sports metaphors. Golden tip: don't do this around girls.

I know it is totally not done at the sarcastic and "cool" tip.it board here, but a small giddy squee escaped me when I saw your name pop up. I sort of want to hug your post. Your absence is a loss to the board. It's really great to hear from you and I hope you're doing well. I agree with your assessment about Oneitis. There's nothing wrong with being head over heels for one person, as long as it doesn't lead to extreme tunnel vision. Still, I think that it's a good tip for most of the people who come here with love troubles to look a bit further than the idolatry they often have going on for one person, who is often toying around with them.

I'm bad, I'm s[racist term]ing a bit. Sweet old grandma nice, exactly the quality any guy wants in his girlfriend. (Edit: s[racist term]ing = snickering, but the Brit spelling *sigh*) Anyhow. You made a really bad move by starting to text her, because she'll interprete this as you being interested for sure. So whatever you decide on doing, do it quick, or be labelled the "bastard", probably attracting even more of those girls. Mwaha. So what to do? You could be straight with her and just tell her you're looking to be friends, but not more. Won't be appreciated much though. Or maybe hint that there's another girl, like in "I have to run now, I'm going on a date with a girl I've been having eyes for for ages now." I don't know. I generally suck at this sort of thing. Either I'm completely straight "I have the feeling you're looking for more than friendship. I'm not." or I go into ignore mode and show my disinterest with cold body language. But I'm a girl, so yeah. Body language > words. From the way you describe her body language, she wants you. The words are there as a decoy and serve to make it clear to you what she's looking for: good boyfriend material. "A lot of guys suck" may mean "but you don't, right?". It all depends on the delivery, and the looks, and the accompanying body language, of course...