Muggi, thanks to your guide I completed the Fight Caves on Sunday. It was my fourth try -- I had used another guide and guthans for the previous three, and then saw your guide and did it without Guthan. I wish I saw it earlier. Your trick for standing in the way northeast corner while killing the last 360 before Jad was very helpful as well. I had Rune Xbow with 500 rune bolts, Avas accumulator, fury, ranger boots, verac helm and skirt, black dhide, barrow gloves and archer ring. Inventory was 6 sara brews, 2 tuna potato, 16 super restores, 3 range pots and whip. Again, thanks.