lord_troyus

It sounds amazing... But remember what we got last christmas?

I agree with the rest but that i don't. I know myself i have used a d bow in several wars - its only good for the spec. Its too slow, so the moment you need to eat you can't fire. Messes up your combat as an all-round weapon. Id advise MSB > D bow purely as rune arrows TEAR through ahrims and are fast - meaning more eating/potting time just incase. The rune xbow beats them anyway so that above was pointless :lol:

The number of alliances depend on the number of worlds given. Most will be clusters though if the number is very small.

Its considered NH to pk in hides against a team/clan where you would normally pk in more expensive gear. It's basically saying "I think im going to lose to you, so i wont risk my stuff" These things are frowned upon. Mainly because the person/team chooses to welfare instead of changing world/location.

I somewhat agree with you - except you forget how many "large" clans there are, combined with great organisation and returning ability i think certain area's in multicombat will be hopspots. Unless as you said the level restrictions... restrict that : Even with 20 worlds to PK in, and full worlds there will be alot of PKRI's. I think the lay out of the places will be very selective. I mean varrock is a no-no (single with banks and shops). Falador castle has alot of ladders that will be quite annoying on f2p with a 5 second bind. I think most will return to what they know - GDZ to spiders. It'll remove any solo pkers, remove most welfarers unless in clans/teams (I mean who is gunna walk all that way and back just to get killed again). Plus they all know the tanking places, the scenery, the log spots and most will probably still have scouts there. But if they have the number of worlds that they currently have for BH... (3 F2P 3 P2P) it'll be absolute chaos on GMT/EST timezone clashes. I mean if they have that many you can expect clans to be massing on a safe world just to get to deep wildy to avoid the clashes on the way. It all depends on how JaGeX handles it.

Damage inc, Gladz and Runescape dinasty are still around. I don't know ZF so i can't say.

I can see falador being VERY hard to hold for several reasons... 2 Close banks. Popular F2P city. Multicombat. Teleport spot right in the middle.

Doubt it - the entrance is single combat on all three sides i think (Im sure it is on 2 sides).

I expect alot of RSB will be making masser clans (similar to BH multi) But since low organisation, no MLs etc, bsing will take control. Plus in a run in with a real clan they stand no chance. But general NH will return. Expect NI to be back on the scene eh? :lol:

You sure you didn't loot at PKRI's?

Ever heard of binds? I think he means the clans fighting in favour of the combat triangle. Not just hybrids stopping the enemy. Damaging aswell. But binds bounce off dhide anyway.

You don't understand Xbow. There is no RL money being traded. Its purely me just giving an item away.... Plus.. i've already gave away 7m+ in BH in F2P to friends ... its not that difficult. I was just wondering if it was illegal.

Yes but it's not so much ITEM LENDING as... Item giving :

Ok brief intro then simple question I've looked around the rules and knowledge base on the Runescape website and i've found nothing that strictly says "Do not do this". If you had an item, and you wanted to give it to your friend. You both entered bounty hunter knowing the risk, you died to him, he looted them item and then escaped. Is this illegal? No RL cash was transferred, just you thought you could help out a friend. Plus i don't think this is breaking any runescape rules. Views?

Are you a skiller by any chance?

I don't see any rules saying you can't tell someone there a noob either or telling them to stop "safing". Yet here you are complaining about it... Hahaha. Very funny. Start with a basic insult to my intelligence. Then call me a pker (have you seen my stats? Admittedly no 99's but i wouldn't call label myself as a pker or a skiller). Also my clan started as a skilling based one. Then you go and make a statement that skillers are more patient and intelligent. How many legal lures have you created? How many times have you waited in a lure? How many people have you lured? That takes intelligence and patience. Plus both Pkers and skillers get high stats so why is one more patient that the other? I'll explain what you have done here. You have said that pkers kill players. The player being killed can sometimes feel inflicted pain. Therefore the goal of a pker is to inflict pain. WRONG. Many players pk for fun. Many pk for profit. Many teams or single PKers follow honour rules. Your serious lack of experience in the next area is where you go wrong. ALOT of clans pked with honour. Alot of clans still war while being polite. Just because you get annoyed when you lose your precious pixels when dying doesn't mean that they're being rude. It just means that they were better/smarter than you and you feel sad about this. Fact is - You were wrong on that post from start to finish.... well almost. Thanks for the lesson in english but otherwise.. "Stop praying noob"

Ummmm REAL SINGLE COMBAT is often tag teams #-o Green drags (single) teams were mainly tag teams. A few tbers, mainly ancients and tagging if needed. Either way, if magic is in the mix you're likely to be tagged.

I think its a mix. Full rune costs more than mage robes (used to) or dragonhide. Admittedly the supps would cost a fair bit but they would be used up in wars. If 2 clans warred, both clans would be able to loot full rune for each kill. Making the winning clan fairly rich (this is wars not PKRI's). I guess they got into the style of melee vs melee and so thought there was no point changing after december 10.

Why do you NEED to know who is more organised? Surely if a clan wins despite numbers + levels - even if it didn't look like it - They were probably more organised.

I HATE the fact that Pkers are considered worse than skillers - it really eats me up inside. Yeah when skillers turn to pking im sure that they've had bad experiences wether they died or not. But its individuals. Saying pkers are horrible, nasty and/or inpolite is discrimination. Have you ever had to hop worlds due to someone jumping you while you were training on a monster. Or perhaps thieving and someone flaimed you. Thats likely a skiller there - but purely because your in a PvP situation if a pker taunts you then - OH OUTRAGE!!! I think the majority of this discussion (not all) have there facts wrong. Alot of clan Pkers (or warrers - but they still player killed and looted) were/are infact very nice people. People get kicked from these clans of pkers for flaiming. After each war you see a friendly "gf ***". Adding to this alot of clans enforce honour, where nobody will crash another war and will sometimes even act as an anti-crash team. I've yet to see polite rules enforced this strongly in the skiller community.

Why do people continually think that fansites will take over area's... :wall: Yes there may be only one entrance to karamja on F2P worlds. Yes it has a fishing spot. So what? One entrance means next to nothing. You can still have hundreds of people storming off the ship or log from another world Plus how would you ALL recognise eachother? Team capes? Yeah a random person couldn't find out what cape is being used, buy one then tell his clan... who will take tipit apart due to not knowing who is friend and who is foe. Clan Chats? Limit is 100..... Yeah sure you can hold a place with 100 people... :wall: The fishing spot is pointless anyway - You can just hop, bank, go back, hop again. It's not like people will be fighting over the spot when most have mountains of food in there bank.

Most of the suggestions have been P2P area's. And the best place for MSSW4 is.... The wildy.. duh? Stick to what you know eh? :lol:

Yep, and using my custom background - Looks neat huh?

I would expect TB to be brought back. But maybe its like what happens why you try to tele when under attack in BH?

Hmmmm I think the no looting part has to be made up for by some pretty decent drops. If it is - i can see ahrims teams rolling round with max mage gear tearing up single zones. Welfare will of course dominate multi-combat. On P2P atleast. On F2P... Pures, tanks, rune pures etc will all handle single. With multi being honoured by clans/teams. The economy will change alot.. But only if the rewards for killing a player are decent.