unwritten rules, ethics, and common courtesy

[ixfd64]

Jagex lists 15 rules which they consider "essential" that players abide by. However, in order to have a truly enjoyable gaming experience, there has to be common courtesy and respect.

 

 

 

Here's a few examples:

 

 

 

Arrow "stealing"

 

 

 

This "problem" has been in RuneScape for years. Basically, if a player shoots some arrows, and isn't fast enough to recover them, they will be visible to other players. This has been under debate at times, and Jagex's stance is that it's OK to take the arrows, under the "finders, keepers" doctrine. However, this has caused many players to become unhappy, especially those who cannot afford large amounts of expensive arrows.

 

 

 

Kill stealing

 

 

 

Kill stealing was another major "problem" in RuneScape Classic. Basically, if you were fighting an NPC and another player mages or ranges it, you wouldn't get so much exp, and you might not get the drop for now. At monsters under high demand, kill stealing has been the cause of many angry rants and flame wars. Although kill stealing is banned in some games (such as EverQuest), it is allowed in RuneScape. With multi-combat in RS2, Jagex states that it is intentionally allowed for players to "work together".

 

 

 

Luring

 

 

 

Before Jagex made it illegal in late March 2007, luring was the source of numerous debates. Supporters argued that traders should know the risks, hence Darwin's law. Opponents argue that it involves scamming. While luring was legal before March 29, 2007, many played looked down at lurers, considering them to be players who have sunk to great lows.

 

 

 

Law rune crafting

 

 

 

World 99 is the "official" world of law crafting. The law rune crafting business is mostly dominated by the Fast Laws, Inc. Crafters and runners are told to abide by the rules set by the company. People who take advantage of the company's popularity are considered leeches, and often end up on ignore lists. However, any game world may be used by anyone, and FLI does not "own" a world. Players may legally, by Jagex runes, craft and trade wherever and whenever they wish. (Funny how world 2 shade burners are never called leeches.) However, it's not against the rules to tell players to "go away" either.

 

 

 

Door closing

 

 

 

Many players will close doors on purpose for the sole purpose of annoying others. This is not against the rules.

 

 

 

Back to the topic, what do you think of Jagex's stance on common courtesy? Do you think they should step in more? Or leave it as it is?

 

 

 

Personally, I don't think that these should be enforced by Jagex rules. (If Jagex punishes players for "leeching" of the Last Laws Inc. or other company, they would be accused of bias in an instant.) I think that things are good they way they are.

 

 

 

What do you think?

[shurikennin]

there is also a world 66 law running with ess back

[Gold_Tiger10]

This is quite a pointless topic that will only attract flaming. I'll start! :twisted:

 

 

 

Arrow "Stealing" and Kill "Stealing"...hmmm, well let's see..

 

 

 

If a tradeable item is on the ground and the player decides not to pick it up, then it will become visible to other players. Their decision to pick it up, it's not stealing. It's how the game was made, don't like the game then don't play. No need to complain and make a senseless topic such as this. Your petty whiney won't do the community any help.

 

 

 

Kill "Stealing"? More like, if a player happens to do more damage to a monster he gets the drop. It's not stealing, if you think it is stealing then go out and get 126 combat and then come back and start "Stealing" Kills. Then you will have to deal the idiot-complainers.

[unorclan]

yeah, I mean who cares if some people get a couple of your arrows OR a few monsters you were killing....

 

now the door thing ticks me off :evil:

[unkn0wnwarrior]

I agree, they should leave it as is. Arrow "stealing" is low, yes, but it is also the fault of the one firing them. Kill "stealing" is fine. Higher skills should be rewarded. Luring, I commend Jagex for acting on it. I'm F2P so don't know much about law crafting but as you said, nobody "owns" the worlds. Door closing, while it can lead to deaths, is low, but certainly nothing for Jagex to step in over.

[nicrune007]

hmm i gotta agree with you ixfd64.

[Tsar]

Uh, where to start...

 

 

 

Door closing should be bannable. I'm sick of people who dont have anything, i mean ANYTHING better to do than to just annoy, tease and insult. Glad to see Jagex have made bank doors and varrock west anvil doors open 24/7.

 

 

 

Kill stealing, well... it may be annoying, but I've always talked my way out of such situations, they usually leave after a brief lecture :wink: . But if a group of people purposely attack the monsters I attack, and don't even remotely try to listen to what I have to say... that being the worst case scenario, I've found it better to just log out and switch to a different world.

 

 

 

Wilderness luring, that god that's now bannable. But house luring is still flourishing... so is the stable number of idiots who fall for the schemes and lose stuff to lurers. I'm surprised how many of those who got killed had rares on them. There goes my way of thinking that almost everyone with a rare item have at least average IQ and common sense. :boohoo:

 

 

 

Arrow stealers, I dont mind actually... unless it's rune arrows I'm shooting.

 

Definitely isn't an offence. If it was, it would violate the 1 minute respawn rule, hence would make picking up every other item that publicly respawns a sin too. :?

 

 

 

And law rune crafting... um, I havent been involved in FFL, so cant really say anything about what's rotten and out of order there.

[Duke_Freedom]

While luring was legal before March 29, 2007, many played looked down at lurers, considering them to be players who have sunk to great lows.

 

 

 

Luring was only 'legal' during the time Jagex choose to make it legal. Before their initial rule change, it felt perfectly fine under rule 2: item scamming.

 

 

 

And I've always said there is nothing wrong with arrow "stealing" -> it isn't stealing. If people aren't quick enough with picking up their arrows then they are no longer their property anymore - it is as simple as that. People who whine about this should start playing single player games.

[RayOxide]

Uh, where to start...

 

Door closing should be bannable. I'm sick of people who dont have anything, i mean ANYTHING better to do than to just annoy, tease and insult. Glad to see Jagex have made bank doors and varrock west anvil doors open 24/7.

 

 

 

No, It shouldn't, They should just keep doors open like in Banks.

[transcript80]

Arrow "stealing"

 

 

 

This "problem" has been in RuneScape for years. Basically, if a player shoots some arrows, and isn't fast enough to recover them, they will be visible to other players. This has been under debate at times, and Jagex's stance is that it's OK to take the arrows, under the "finders, keepers" doctrine. However, this has caused many players to become unhappy, especially those who cannot afford large amounts of expensive arrows.

 

 

 

If the arrow shooter picks them up, they don't become visible. Get higher ranged, better arrows or easier monster to kill, problem solved. Nothing wrong with scavenging stuff that's on the floor.

 

 

 

Kill stealing

 

 

 

Kill stealing was another major "problem" in RuneScape Classic. Basically, if you were fighting an NPC and another player mages or ranges it, you wouldn't get so much exp, and you might not get the drop for now. At monsters under high demand, kill stealing has been the cause of many angry rants and flame wars. Although kill stealing is banned in some games (such as EverQuest), it is allowed in RuneScape. With multi-combat in RS2, Jagex states that it is intentionally allowed for players to "work together".

 

 

 

Nobody owns a NPC (except cats they bought from Gertrude), so there is no stealing whatsoever. Click faster, or learn to live with it. People at blue dragons under Hero's guild complain me casting curse on the blues to be the first attacker, while they are allowed to take those runes as well!

 

 

 

Luring

 

 

 

Before Jagex made it illegal in late March 2007, luring was the source of numerous debates. Supporters argued that traders should know the risks, hence Darwin's law. Opponents argue that it involves scamming. While luring was legal before March 29, 2007, many played looked down at lurers, considering them to be players who have sunk to great lows.

 

 

 

Lurin is bannable nowadays. Before, I think you are just stupid being lured in the wilderness. Accept aid off ALL the time, no trading near the wilderness and NO ONE can be lured.

 

 

 

Law rune crafting

 

 

 

World 99 is the "official" world of law crafting. The law rune crafting business is mostly dominated by the Fast Laws, Inc. Crafters and runners are told to abide by the rules set by the company. People who take advantage of the company's popularity are considered leeches, and often end up on ignore lists. However, any game world may be used by anyone, and FLI does not "own" a world. Players may legally, by Jagex runes, craft and trade wherever and whenever they wish. (Funny how world 2 shade burners are never called leeches.) However, it's not against the rules to tell players to "go away" either.

 

 

 

Why is that abusing the company? Everyine is allowed to trade whoever they want. Done deal!

 

 

 

Door closing

 

 

 

Many players will close doors on purpose for the sole purpose of annoying others. This is not against the rules.

 

 

 

Although it can be a major annoyance, you can always switch worlds. I mean, what's 3 minutes on an average human life?

 

 

 

I think JaGEx has nice standards. They designed a nice game, and people WILL find ways to "ruin" it anyway. That's the risk you take when playing a MMORPG.

[darkforaster]

 

 

 

Door closing

 

 

 

Many players will close doors on purpose for the sole purpose of annoying others. This is not against the rules.

 

 

 

Back to the topic, what do you think of Jagex's stance on common courtesy? Do you think they should step in more? Or leave it as it is?

 

 

 

Personally, I don't think that these should be enforced by Jagex rules. (If Jagex punishes players for "leeching" of the Last Laws Inc. or other company, they would be accused of bias in an instant.) I think that things are good they way they are.

 

 

 

What do you think?

 

 

 

like you said, changing the rules may consider jagex bias or will make them rant against it. But there are some ways which we can aid the need to stop annoyances happening.

 

 

 

The door thing can easily be solved. When clicking on a door to open that door, you walk right through it.

[neovenator]

i think you forgot something...

 

 

 

being noob :P

 

 

 

i mean players who play the game without any sence of what they're doin... you should pass some kind of exam with the basics off rs...

[endo]

door closing is like the most fun thing to do in RSC other than hogging the banker :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mark_kim]

Mining someone else's rock in the mining guild, infact, anywhere.

[Gold_Tiger10]

Mining someone else's rock in the mining guild, infact, anywhere.

 

Do you own the pixels in a game? JaGex says...NO. You do not own anything in the game, including an ore rock. So don't say it's yours or anyone elses. -.-