they can suck it up.

they can suck it up.

 

 

 

What do you mean 'they can suck it up'? WTF is the meaning attatched to that statement?

Time Magazine apparently loves to lie.

 

 

 

Dr. Kavorkian cannot practice medicine, and if you watched Larry King Live last night, you'd know that he said he'd never help anyone kill themselves again, not because it's "wrong", but because "it wouldn't prove anything".

 

 

 

I think he legitimately wanted to help people, but he has a twist of weirdo to him. Like he thought of it as actually helping, not murdering, but he actually somewhat enjoyed it. That's just my impression of him after listening to him.

Giving Up, the easiest way out, but the most costly.

 

 

 

~Defender~

Well, not that I'm for assisted suicide, but I know for a fact that if I hated my life so much that I decided to end it, I wouldn't be able to go through with it on my own. I'd need someone to do something, because I'd chicken out.

Time Magazine apparently loves to lie.

 

 

 

Dr. Kavorkian cannot practice medicine, and if you watched Larry King Live last night, you'd know that he said he'd never help anyone kill themselves again, not because it's "wrong", but because "it wouldn't prove anything".

 

 

 

I think he legitimately wanted to help people, but he has a twist of weirdo to him. Like he thought of it as actually helping, not murdering, but he actually somewhat enjoyed it. That's just my impression of him after listening to him.

 

 

 

Good news is news that doesn't sell.

 

Now bad news is definitely news that sells.

I think what he did was 100% OK. People should have the right to decide if they want to live or die. If people suffer, why should they have to live?

 

 

 

Sorry but nobody should have the decision if they should live or die.

 

 

 

Humans are prone to making mistakes.

There's nothing wrong with euthanasia, how can any of you say that you wouldn't want to be released from suffering when you had a terminal disease which meant your 'life' was a 24 hour hell?

I'm fine with assisted suicide, but it depends on the reasons. If your suffering a tremendous amount of pain from disease and want it to go away, i think its reasonable to end the pain. however if your girlfriend left you or your in debt with the IRS and can't pay your bills, there's no need to die for it. it wouldn't be fair that loved ones now have to face the IRS by themselves.

I'm fine with assisted suicide, but it depends on the reasons. If your suffering a tremendous amount of pain from disease and want it to go away, i think its reasonable to end the pain. however if your girlfriend left you or your in debt with the IRS and can't pay your bills, there's no need to die for it. it wouldn't be fair that loved ones now have to face the IRS by themselves.

 

 

 

Of course, mate. I'm thinking that latter proposed case of euthenasia would be illegal.

Why is it, whenever I see this thread, I play out this scenario in my head:

 

 

 

"Son, I think you might be better off dead"

 

"But doc, I've only bruised my toenail!"

 

"Oops! My needle slipped!" :anxious:

 

 

 

...No-one else then?

So am I right in assuming that the people who are against assisted suicide now also wanted to keep Terri Schiavo alive?

So am I right in assuming that the people who are against assisted suicide now also wanted to keep Terri Schiavo alive?

 

I wouldn't want to force anyone to live but I don't want to help anyone die.

Lovely... That guy's a complete jackass.

So am I right in assuming that the people who are against assisted suicide now also wanted to keep Terri Schiavo alive?

 

 

 

That would be a case of euthanasia, which is different. Schiavo wasn't capable of making her own decision, she was proclaimed to be in a vegetative state. I would say that removing the feeding tube, which was the only thing keeping her alive and in the comatose state, would have been the acceptable thing to do since she was not able to get anything out of the life that the tube was force-feeding her. That is euthanasia. Assisted suicide requires a concsious decision on the patient's part to take a deadly pill precribed by a doctor. Hence the suicide part of it. And I believe that is wrong, and I explained why in my previous posts.

Ok, I've never heard of this guy before, so I don't know about the background. Are we talking about assisted-suicide or euthanasia? Because to me they are both very different scenarios, I'd be for euthanasia but not assisted suicide.

Ok, I've never heard of this guy before, so I don't know about the background. Are we talking about assisted-suicide or euthanasia? Because to me they are both very different scenarios, I'd be for euthanasia but not assisted suicide.

 

 

 

I feel exactly the same way. And Kevorkian practices assisted suicide, convincing his patients that it's the best way. He's a maniac.

Ok, I've never heard of this guy before, so I don't know about the background. Are we talking about assisted-suicide or euthanasia? Because to me they are both very different scenarios, I'd be for euthanasia but not assisted suicide.

 

 

 

I feel exactly the same way. And Kevorkian practices assisted suicide, convincing his patients that it's the best way. He's a maniac.

 

 

 

What if a patient was the one doing the convincing, i.e. they seriously wanted to die. Not ok?

Ok, I've never heard of this guy before, so I don't know about the background. Are we talking about assisted-suicide or euthanasia? Because to me they are both very different scenarios, I'd be for euthanasia but not assisted suicide.

 

 

 

I feel exactly the same way. And Kevorkian practices assisted suicide, convincing his patients that it's the best way. He's a maniac.

 

 

 

What if a patient was the one doing the convincing, i.e. they seriously wanted to die. Not ok?

 

 

 

Well, they're obviously suffering from depression, in which case they are in no way in the right state of mind to make such a decision. They need help, not a lethal injection, mmm'kay?

 

 

 

Seriously, why is this guy not in jail?

^He was in jail, he has now been released, which was the discussion starter for this topic.

 

 

 

I also agree with what you said about the depression, but if they weren't depressed and have at least considered hospice care then... Their choice. As I've said before, Kevorkian is just being an [wagon] with his policies.

So he is still practicing medicine? How long did he serve and how many people has he killed?

 

 

 

Sorry for all the questions, but the OP didn't post much info, and other people probably have no clue about him either. And if you say 'Google' I'll kick you in the groin.

I would assume that he's back to practicing, but I have no idea how long he served. And as far as how many people he killed, it's not an overwhelmingly large amount, I'm not sure but I remember reading it somewhere and I don't think it exceeds 10. But these incidents in themselves aren't very common. even in Oregon, where assisted suicide is legal, very few people choose it each year. Sorry I can't give exact statistics, I could probably find them again if I looked but I'm too lazy :XD:

 

 

 

And if you say 'Google' I'll kick you in the groin.

 

 

 

:ohnoes:

Ok, I've never heard of this guy before, so I don't know about the background. Are we talking about assisted-suicide or euthanasia? Because to me they are both very different scenarios, I'd be for euthanasia but not assisted suicide.

 

 

 

I feel exactly the same way. And Kevorkian practices assisted suicide, convincing his patients that it's the best way. He's a maniac.

 

 

 

What if a patient was the one doing the convincing, i.e. they seriously wanted to die. Not ok?

 

 

 

Suicidal thoughts are often associated with depression. They may have wanted to seriously die when they were depressed, but what if they weren't?

 

 

 

Assisted suicide is like a nurse asking an alzheimer (sp?) patient to make him her guardian or whatever, telling him/her to sign the form for no apparent reason and the patient is in no right frame of mind anymore (like later stages of alzheimers).

 

 

 

A patient suffering with severe depression would seem to have a hellish life and the patient would want to make an irrational decision such as suicide. You're supposed to show them that suicide isn't the "way out" and that what the patient needs is LIFE. Instead, you're wanting to do a half-assed job and go ahead and "put the patient out of his/her misery" and come up with a seemingly good reason such as "Oh he DESERVES peace, doesn't he? Then, why not we give him eternal rest and let him get what he wants?"

I would assume that he's back to practicing, but I have no idea how long he served. And as far as how many people he killed, it's not an overwhelmingly large amount, I'm not sure but I remember reading it somewhere and I don't think it exceeds 10. But these incidents in themselves aren't very common. even in Oregon, where assisted suicide is legal, very few people choose it each year. Sorry I can't give exact statistics, I could probably find them again if I looked but I'm too lazy :XD:

 

 

 

And if you say 'Google' I'll kick you in the groin.

 

 

 

:ohnoes:

 

 

 

Again, are we talking euthanasia or someone wanting someone to kill them cause they had a bad day at the office? Seriously, in the latter option, grow some balls and jump off a bridge, and don't ask someone to have to live with that kind of guilt.

I think what he did was 100% OK. People should have the right to decide if they want to live or die. If people suffer, why should they have to live?

 

 

 

We all suffer at some point in our life. Life can seem like hell, but just hold on and you'll make it.

 

 

 

I can be depressed at times and it seems like no one cares (but they do), but I would never want to/kill myself. I believe I have a special reason for existing, and I want to honor that. I know that one of these days, I'll meet my wife, and I would want to at least live for her.