blosssom2581 Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 As everyone knows, pures dominate a huge part of wildy and their advantage is mainly due to their exploit in combat system. They intendionally skip some combat skills like prayer and hopes to gain an edge while fighting others Some people argues that this is fair as they abide to all the game rules. Others find them annoying and don't allow a regular player stand a chance in front of them Should we change our combat system to make it more fair? My suggestion Take attack, defence, strength, ranged, magic, and prayer as combat skills. Assume that the levels of them for a player is A, D, S, R, M, P respectively Combat = 1.5*(the best four within A, D, S, R, M, P) + (S.D. of these six skills) p.s. S.D. = standard derivation = a measure to check the difference between the skills. If the difference is large (because of a pure), then the value of S.D. will also be greater Currently taking a break from Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hell... it would make a lot of work for any fansites out there, but they should re-think the combat formula to make it based on experience rather than levels. Would that be fair on Guthix skillers (sorry Ard!)... most likely not, but in my opinion, how high your level is in-game should be dependant on how much experience not levels, as proven by pures. this would make pures much higher in combat levels while making balanced players of the same level lower, making the levels much more fairer and representative. Not to mention it would reduce their dominance of the wilderness. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar_Drifter Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Personally I think that we could do with a nice revamp of the combat system. But I don't think we should have one... why? Because of the rants. I can just see it now. People rant before updates come out, solely based on what they read in the BTS on the main site and from hearsay. People rant when an update comes out because JaGEx made such and such too strong or too weak or because they can't do it because they don't have this level or that quest. People rant after they "fix" the update because they liked it the way it was before. Runescape in this day and age can never be fitted to make everyone happy. I think we should just stick with the current combat system so as to not discourage people from playing and to not hear the rants. I can also hear it now.. "If we had the old combat system, i wud pwn you n00b." ~Lunar Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Defnitively, this combat system is horrible compared to that of other games. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I would much prefer to keep it as is. It is one of the things that make Runescape unique. If it had the same combat system as other games, I think it would be far less appealing. As for the pures argument, they ARE playing fairly, following all of the rules. They simply found a way of making themselves more efficient killing machines. And everybody can make a pure if they want to, so those who don't have one have no real reason to complain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 This game has one of the worst combat systems I've ever seen. However, this game was built on lots of crappy stuff (firemaking, anyone? Seriously, whoever thought of such a concept...), and has come too far to change anything now. If possible, however, I would prefer combat to be much, MUCH, less probability based. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi9im8Here7 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Personally I wouldn't mind if they did away with wild levels completely and let everyone attack anyone. :P Str is WAY too powerful compared to the other combat skills, especially defence. If they want a better combat system, they have to find a way to balance all the skills involved (would be very hard for Jagex ppl to do, considering they're very bad at balancing things :( ). There's nothing wrong with being a pure, and there's nothing wrong with making them obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimHams Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 They should make 1 defence what it should be, totally abysmal, say im 60 strength, it should destroy that 1 defence quicker than 80 strength should kill my 60 defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 They should make 1 defence what it should be, totally abysmal, say im 60 strength, it should destroy that 1 defence quicker than 80 strength should kill my 60 defence. Yes it should do that.... What anoys me is im 88 def and a 70 str attk hits me no problem with low def and im hitting low at 77 str Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I think that the amount of damage dealt should be proportionate to the strength level of the attacker, and defence level of the defender. For example, a person with X strength should be able to deal much more damage per hit on a person with 1 defence, than a person with 99 defence. At the moment, there's no difference. This would cut the power of pures one heck of a lot. It's also quite common to have this in games. The most powerful weapons in a game usually leave that person almost defenceless and prone to a OHKO. Jagex would only be following a trend that's existed for a decade if they were to do this... | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_trollz_u Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 the probalem with your idea is that there are a lot of pures that are members and pures would go crazy and quit if jagex did that. The would lose a ton of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Indeed without a doubt a new combat system would be impossible to implement right now. In a future Rs3 maybe. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 the probalem with your idea is that there are a lot of pures that are members and pures would go crazy and quit if jagex did that. The would lose a ton of money. Jagex states that they do not support pures and skillers, nor people like low level quest capers. Hell, they put the combat requirement on Dream Mentor and they didn't give in to the whiners. But that's not the point - a pure is very rarely a main account and so they would prolly just scrap the pure and start a new account or improve the pure to the actual standards. Unless they don't wanna work more, they won't quit for that. You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxicologist Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 the probalem with your idea is that there are a lot of pures that are members and pures would go crazy and quit if jagex did that. The would lose a ton of money. Pures are usually F2P. People with Pures generally have a Main. Members Pures are a minority. Enough said. Why do you resist? My experiments are only helping humanity push the boundaries of the Art of Toxicology... you should be proud to be one of my victims. ~Toxicologist~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgotenn00b Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 wow that is quite an idea, and if jagex really thought about it, it would help to even the playing field for both pkers and for non-pkers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Peter18 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 What combat system? Since when has a defense level make a difference? Since when has strength and attack made a difference in the "Combat System"? You'd be better off playing D@D the board game and defense actually means something. Runescape, is built on the combat system. That is the foundation. In order to revamp the foundation, a lot of things would have to go. Jagex, will not take the time to fix it. They have to do updates weekly. If not, than people get mad at them. Jagex is not run by its employees, but by its customers. Won't ever happen, yes it does need to be revamped. But don't ever hope it does. One question, how can "We" change the combat system? :XD: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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