O_M_G_Guasto Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Math and Reading folks, the essence of my topic. It all makes sense in the end, though. BEWARE: Wall of text. If you are a long-time and experienced player, you may remember back in the day whining about a lack of higher-leveled equipment. Jagex delivered, over, and over again. Barrows, more Dragon Armour, 3rd age, and much, much more. The rangers got new armour of course, but it was always nearly identical to the relic known as Black D'hide. It's time we had a successor though. An idea that isn't new but never fleshed out enough, White Dragons, and White D'hide. White Dragons should be located in a Dungeon, east of the Monastery. They should be made of the stuff of Saradomin, representing Peace, Hope, Serenity, and Prosperity. Guarded by Warrior Monks that set you off upon a set of tasks (or possibly a quest), you may only enter after doing said task(s) or quest, and only if you are Wearing a garment dedicated to Saradomin, and none dedicated to Guthix or Zamorak. Upon entering the dungeon you will see a portal, when you step into this portal you will be in the realm of Saradomin. An angel will approach and confront you, explaining your situation. The Angel will then disappear, leaving you to explore. At the end of the dungeon, there will be Baby White Dragons and White Dragons. The Baby White Dragons are attackable, but they are a Multi-Combat zone and the Monk Caretakers will attack you if you attack the Baby White Dragons. The White Dragons are in a separate room, all of these monsters are non-aggressive as this is Saradomin's realm and they do represent peace, after all. [hide=Some Basic Math]As far as I can tell the levels from dragon to dragon are not formulated at all, but the hit points on each of them looks like it is. The HP from Green to Blue is 30, Blue to Red 35, Red to Black 50. So we can figure that Black to White would be 55, leaving this monster at 245 HP, and under the Java limit for HP. But for the levels, I believe it should stay a lower combat level than the King Black Dragon, he has already lost most of his glory anyway. In the 260's, possibly? Leave the Babies at 83 to mimic the Baby Black Dragons as the Baby Reds do to the Baby Blues.[/hide] These dragons are tough but not that tough. They are easily bruised, and they're hides delicate. The dragons will have a 100% drop of Dragon Bones and only a 50% drop of White D'hide. These hides are rare and only a special tanner can treat them with the grace and gentleness these hides need. A monk tanner, his name doesn't really come to mind at the moment, but he lives west of McGrubbor's Woods and was once a Knight of the Round Table. Anyway, he would charge you 200gp per hide (10x the normal rate), and make you wait 60 minutes of real life time to come back and get your White Dragon Leather. They should have more than one attack to stop the safe-spotting of them, I was thinking the basic Melee and Dragon fire and Saradomin Strike (uncharged). And an assortment of drops. [hide= White Dragon Droplist]* Gold: 300-2500 * 100%: Dragon bones * 50%: White D'hide * Weapon: Rune Spear, Rune Mace, Rune 2h Sword, Dragon Mace, Dragon Spear * Armour: Rune Chainbody, Dragon med helm * Runes/Arrows: Law(15), Soul(25), Rune (18) * Misc: Draconic Visage, Gloves of Hope, Gloves of Peace, Gloves of Serenity, Gloves of Prosperity, Uncut gems, Half key, Shield left half(dragon), Monk fish (1, 5 (noted)), Herb, Adamantite ore(5 noted), Clue(lvl 3), Silver ore(50 noted), cut Dragonstone * Seeds: -[/hide] The new gloves you see in there are the new items these dragons would introduce into the game other than White D'hide armour (getting to that part). The ideas for what these gloves do are in the making, and for now are just basic ideas that may be unbalanced. Gloves of Hope: Nothing coming to mind, ideas? Gloves of Peace: Turns monsters non-agressive in 10 minutes instead of 15. Gloves of Serenity: When you die a screen pops up and allows you to choose ONE item to keep and you lose everything else (when not skulled), you may choose to keep your three default items, if you log out when this screen appears (like you were away from your keyboard) you keep your three default items. When skulled this effect is negated. Gloves of Prosperity: Increases the chance of a monster dropping stackable items (Arrows, Runes, Noted Items, GP, etc.) and increases the amount of said item by 20%, with rounding applied. Crafting these, of course... The crafting levels and experience will follow the math pattern of those before it. [hide= Crafting Stuff] Vambraces: 86 or 87 Crafting, one D'hide, 94 experience gained. Chaps: 89 or 90 Crafting, two D'hides, 188 experience gained. Body: 92 or 93 Crafting, three D'hides, 282 experience gained.[/hide] The White D'hide armour will require 80 Range and 50 Defense to wear, every piece of it. (no pures in my White D'hide ) To support: [url=http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?p=4915406#4915406] Higher leveled range armor? Click here to support White Dragons![/url] Well, that is about it. Hope you enjoyed the read. I put so much effort into this, I would appreciate any constructive criticism and/or support. ~Supporters~ Me... for now. :-w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 I like the idea, but it'd defeat the purpose of karil's. It should definately have the same bonusses as black dhide, and you want it to be higher. Imagine a plate armour being stronger then torags(and would not degrade) Riots? My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5000 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 an idea for gloves of hope, they increase rarer drop rate for items (like ring of wealth) You can hope to get stuff better Luck be a Lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superway25 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 3rd age is made out of white d hide, examine it <_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_M_G_Guasto Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 I like the idea, but it'd defeat the purpose of karil's. It should definately have the same bonusses as black dhide, and you want it to be higher. Imagine a plate armour being stronger then torags(and would not degrade) Riots? Yes but Karils has no purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBowser Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I'm thinking that the dragon should not drop any weapons at all, and posibly no armour. He should also have to be fought with melee, and you cannot wear anything to enter the portal. If you attack the baby dragons, you should be teleported into the wildy. This is about peace, man, not a good monster to kill. That's what it takes to be a hero, a little gemof innocence inside of you that makes you wantto believe that there still exists a right and wrong,that decency will somehow triumph in the end.--Lise Hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Suggestion killer: All of the white dragons went extinct in the 3rd age, it's in Jagex's literature somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacfan Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 suggested so many times before!!! i like the idea, but next time use search button : ^click to visit my blog! And if u got some spare hammers for my collection, i will always take them just pm me :)5743th with cooking 99!--8 november 2006--16361st with str 99! --15 april 2007--35000th with Attack 99! --20 June 2008--29524th with Hitpoints 99! --3 August 2008-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 3rd age range is made of white dragon hide... :roll: and how many hides is each glove / boot or whatever?> ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_M_G_Guasto Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 3rd age range is made of white dragon hide... :roll: and how many hides is each glove / boot or whatever?> I've never actually seen any 3rd age anything and never bothered to look it up because I'm so poor... the gloves were suppose to be a monster drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastyGangsta Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I like it... gives me something else to kill. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestman4537 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 i support! !Support Ponds IN Your House!http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=674761 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_M_G_Guasto Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 Suggestion killer: All of the white dragons went extinct in the 3rd age, it's in Jagex's literature somewhere. Maybe Saradomin saved a few, he is a god, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maduga1 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 =D> =D> =D> I support 110%, i would love new armor to wear, i am already tired of blessed d hide. but it needs to be something else i think, maybe like a new kind of creature, with stronger hides than dragons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_M_G_Guasto Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 =D> =D> =D> I support 110%, i would love new armor to wear, i am already tired of blessed d hide. but it needs to be something else i think, maybe like a new kind of creature, with stronger hides than dragons I like that idea... I'll tweak my thread a little, considering that 3rd age is White D'hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happysniff Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 3rd age is made out of white d hide, examine it <_< Dammit, you beat me to it :| The idea itself is good, I'd like to see the dragons in the game \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 I like the idea, but it'd defeat the purpose of karil's. It should definately have the same bonusses as black dhide, and you want it to be higher. Imagine a plate armour being stronger then torags(and would not degrade) Riots? Yes but Karils has no purpose. It has the highest mage defense in the game imo. Ideal for slayer monsters that attack with magic(bloodvelds,infernal mages, aberrant specters and such) And it is good at castlewars too My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubahman Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Like others said before, third age range is made of white d hide so tweak the idea a little bit. Also, what do you mean by ANOTHER succesful idea? 99/99 Cooking. 1500+ total level. 96+ Combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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O_M_G_Guasto Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 Also, what do you mean by ANOTHER succesful idea? Mithril Dragons are in the game... they were my idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubahman Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Also, what do you mean by ANOTHER succesful idea? Mithril Dragons are in the game... they were my idea. They may be in the game but that doesn't mean that it was your idea. They ended up being much different from your idea and not even close. With al the suggestions being made, it was bound to happen that eventually, one of the suggestions would be realeased while sharing some similarities such as name but the general idea being way off. You did not create these dragons. As for your idea being the actual one in the end, Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:07 pm. Your suggestion was made on that day. Something like impetuos impulses took 28 Weeks to make according to the developement diaries. Compared to this update that was small. So I doubt it was made in 8 weeks. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day so if you'd bother learning about the new update you would know that the idea is pretty much nothing like yours. 99/99 Cooking. 1500+ total level. 96+ Combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayr Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 i support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_M_G_Guasto Posted July 9, 2007 Author Share Posted July 9, 2007 Also, what do you mean by ANOTHER succesful idea? Mithril Dragons are in the game... they were my idea. They may be in the game but that doesn't mean that it was your idea. They ended up being much different from your idea and not even close. With al the suggestions being made, it was bound to happen that eventually, one of the suggestions would be realeased while sharing some similarities such as name but the general idea being way off. You did not create these dragons. As for your idea being the actual one in the end, Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:07 pm. Your suggestion was made on that day. Something like impetuos impulses took 28 Weeks to make according to the developement diaries. Compared to this update that was small. So I doubt it was made in 8 weeks. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day so if you'd bother learning about the new update you would know that the idea is pretty much nothing like yours. Actually the idea kept growing as more people contributed and I meant the base monsters were my idea... their location is different and how to get to them and their surroundings etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrm22 Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Also, what do you mean by ANOTHER succesful idea? Mithril Dragons are in the game... they were my idea. They may be in the game but that doesn't mean that it was your idea. They ended up being much different from your idea and not even close. With al the suggestions being made, it was bound to happen that eventually, one of the suggestions would be realeased while sharing some similarities such as name but the general idea being way off. You did not create these dragons. As for your idea being the actual one in the end, Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:07 pm. Your suggestion was made on that day. Something like impetuos impulses took 28 Weeks to make according to the developement diaries. Compared to this update that was small. So I doubt it was made in 8 weeks. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day so if you'd bother learning about the new update you would know that the idea is pretty much nothing like yours. Actually the idea kept growing as more people contributed and I meant the base monsters were my idea... their location is different and how to get to them and their surroundings etc. uhm... i think mithrill -dragon dragon where already suggested the day after bronze - steel where released... like 2 years ago... ^^ click my sig for my lesser ranging guide ^^jwrm22: 4816th > 99 cooking 100% f2p !1172 total! + 140mil in items.i dont play anymore... i think rs is ruined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcallmedaddy Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 If Jagex added a higher range armor, melee and magic would need higher armor too. and also..white dragons have been suggested before this. :-w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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