Nero Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ok, alot of you don't care that mere politicians have smoked pot in the past, but what if it were a President or Primeminster? Pierre Elliott Trudeau smoked pot and he's widely regarded as the greatest Canadian prime minister yet. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Now it's sounding like doing pot is a good thing. :| "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Now it's sounding like doing pot is a good thing. :| 8-) Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led-Zeppelin Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ok, alot of you don't care that mere politicians have smoked pot in the past, but what if it were a President or Primeminster? Pierre Elliott Trudeau smoked pot and he's widely regarded as the greatest Canadian prime minister yet. Yeah, I wouldn't care either, just thought I'd bring it up as I'd imagine if a a Presidency election was going, and one of the candidates smoked pot once in College, their rival would bring it up every chance they could. I'm of the opinion they should legalise weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4u689 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 It shows that someone is human. A politician shouldn't have lived their entire life in a bubble just on the off chance that they will run for office and the opposition will dig up dirt on them - I don't want that kind of person running my country. I don't have anything against people who choose to do marijuana. I don't choose to do so myself, but if someone else has (or, something worse, like Obama - a US presidential candidate - admitting to trying cocaine in his youth) in the past, I see no reason why it should affect their decision making power now. I want the best person for the job that exists right now, not who was the most goody-two-shoes as a kid. Everybody hug and spread the love :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone_Sabre Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 The reason they "admit" to it is because it makes them more popular, it makes them seem human. I wouldn't be surprised if their "confession" to smoking weed was actually just a lie. I'm sure Cameron has smoked it in the past and that is why he doesn't comment. He's an Etonian though, he could never admit to it like Labour politicians can. Capone Sabre since April 2001.99 Attack, Defence, Strength and Hitpoints Achieved January 2005. When it still meant something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad4u689 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 The reason they "admit" to it is because it makes them more popular, it makes them seem human. I wouldn't be surprised if their "confession" to smoking weed was actually just a lie. I'm sure Cameron has smoked it in the past and that is why he doesn't comment. He's an Etonian though, he could never admit to it like Labour politicians can. Well, and also that a large number of people have tried marijuana, surely? Everybody hug and spread the love :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone_Sabre Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 The reason they "admit" to it is because it makes them more popular, it makes them seem human. I wouldn't be surprised if their "confession" to smoking weed was actually just a lie. I'm sure Cameron has smoked it in the past and that is why he doesn't comment. He's an Etonian though, he could never admit to it like Labour politicians can. Well, and also that a large number of people have tried marijuana, surely? He's talking about the British Cabinet. Believe me the Labour spin machine is very sophisticated. Those ministers did not suddenly make those admissions (after 20 years in politics) out of a sense of guilt, it was to increase their own popularity. The spin doctors would not let something so trivial as a lie that cannot be disproved stop them from making that admission too. All 4 of the cabinet ministers who made this decision have been promoted in the last month into the new cabinet. What I am saying is that their "confessions" were for popularity and would have been said whether they were true or not. Although, it is likely that most of them will be true as the majority of people have tried cannabis at one point in their life. Capone Sabre since April 2001.99 Attack, Defence, Strength and Hitpoints Achieved January 2005. When it still meant something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I really couldn't care less, it's a fairly mild drug which lots of middle class kids who go to the universities they went to will come across anyway, it doesn't reflect at all on their policies in my opinion. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilleus Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Everyone smokes pot at some point. Does it mean we are all incompetent fools? No. And you're right taking pot is not morally wrong. It's just the crazy things kids do. And it's horrible for you if you become addicted. But morally, your not hurting anybody, your the one being hurt by all those canabis sellers =/ I have NEVER and will NEVER smoke pot Why you may ask? Id led to my Mum and Dad going on to harder drugs which lead to their death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I really couldn't care less, it's a fairly mild drug which lots of middle class kids who go to the universities they went to will come across anyway, it doesn't reflect at all on their policies in my opinion. I don't mean to jump the gun here but it doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter if you're from lower, middle or higher class, it has no affect on who decides to try it, to a certain extent. I think your paragraph missed a generalisation point by the way you worded it by a smidge. From experience I know a lot of extremely wealthy people who do drugs including pot, a lot of extremely poor people who have no money because they spend it all on drugs, including pot and also including the middle class. By all means I hope this hasn't offended you as I highly respect you. I don't think we should be pointing the finger though at lots of middle class people when it applies to various types. I'm sure you're most probably aware of that but just wanted to jump the gun before someone else did. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean for it to come out the way that it sounded to me. Perhaps I'm reading too much in to the fine print? Thought I'd bring it to your attention any who. If you have sources and statistics, you could most definitely say that, however. I'm sure you do though. The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I really couldn't care less, it's a fairly mild drug which lots of middle class kids who go to the universities they went to will come across anyway, it doesn't reflect at all on their policies in my opinion. I don't mean to jump the gun here but it doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t matter if you're from lower, middle or higher class, it has no affect on who decides to try it, to a certain extent. I think your paragraph missed a generalisation point by the way you worded it by a smidge. From experience I know a lot of extremely wealthy people who do drugs including pot, a lot of extremely poor people who have no money because they spend it all on drugs, including pot and also including the middle class. By all means I hope this hasn't offended you as I highly respect you. I don't think we should be pointing the finger though at lots of middle class people when it applies to various types. I'm sure you're most probably aware of that but just wanted to jump the gun before someone else did. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean for it to come out the way that it sounded to me. Perhaps I'm reading too much in to the fine print? Thought I'd bring it to your attention any who. If you have sources and statistics, you could most definitely say that, however. I'm sure you do though. Either you might have misinterpreted what I said or i've misunderstood what you've said, but I don't think I meant it how I think you took it (if ya get what I mean) :P My point was basically this, most of the politicians who have admitted to taking it came from fairly well off middle class families, and from my experience in living in one and mixing in some middle class type circles (which i'm neither proud nor ashamed of, it's just circumstance) cannabis use is fairly common. Of course as you said, drug use extends to all classes of society (although from what I know and have seen, sadly the working classes have more difficulty supporting their habit and hence is more likely to spiral into a self-destructive addiction, although that can of course equally apply to anybody). I wasn't meaning to generalise at all, I was simply saying that from my own personal experiences, i'm not at all surprised that a bunch of people brought up in middle class families took cannabis recreationally, but that I don't think that fact reflects on their current policies, but nor would it reflect badly on a working class politican who did the same. In short, I didn't mean for class generalisations to come into it, all I was saying was that based on personal experience, I wasn't surprised, and didn't think any worse of them for doing it many years ago. Perhaps it was slightly misleading, although my intentions were not how I think you interpreted. Thanks for bringing it to my attention though, hopefully I've made things a little clearer. :) "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGoddessI Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ohh I see what you're saying now :D If it counts for anything, I'm from the middle class and smoked a fair amount of reefers in my time :P The only people who tell you that you can't do something are those who have already given up on their own dreams so feel the need to discourage yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ohh I see what you're saying now :D If it counts for anything, I'm from the middle class and smoked a fair amount of reefers in my time :P Yeah, I mean I don't know what it's like growing up on a working class council estate but I imagine hard drugs might be common, but I certainly know that most middle class kids get exposed to a bit of the old Mary Jane at some point or other :P "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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