THIS GUIDE HASN'T BEEN STICKIED OR HAD MANY GOOD REVIEWS SO IF YOU WANT TO READ IT JOIN MY SITE.

 

 

 

website...Here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Credits,

 

 

 

Bartoron - Good Feedback Ty.

 

 

 

Chris - Reminding Me about pics.

 

 

 

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JoeDaStud - I'm going to get him to help write a few more detailed versions.

Quite a nice guide for beginners i suppose.. but you kind of trailed off towards the end.. The beginning is much more detailed by comparison

I have a feeling he didn't write that guide.

 

 

 

Not because there's a couple of posts already on the board from him asking for help in choosing components. But because of the pictures.

 

 

 

I mean come on... Look at the one for the memory. :?

 

 

 

I don't even know what the first one is, and I've been playing with the insides of computers since early 286's were still running around.

 

 

 

I'm sure there's EDO in that picture too. :wall:

 

 

 

The motherboard picture isn't any good either. I'm sure that's a socket 7 motherboard or older. And it has onboard speed selectors. :-k

 

 

 

And God forbid. An ISA slot!

 

 

 

 

 

At least the Graphics cards are recent.

So what if they are old pics? SO what if i was asking about components for my new comp.. Coming here to pick at me? I'm not going to flame you back.. I'm just saying that my other threads were asking about what to run on a completely different computer.. I wanted other peoples opinions.. Der.. I have learned alot more and i slapped this guide together in 2 days..

So what if they are old pics? SO what if i was asking about components for my new comp.. Coming here to pick at me? I'm not going to flame you back.. I'm just saying that my other threads were asking about what to run on a completely different computer.. I wanted other peoples opinions.. Der.. I have learned alot more and i slapped this guide together in 2 days..

 

 

 

I apologise. You were asking questions and I assumed because of your age that you didn't know as much as you did.

 

 

 

But PLEASE get new pictures or at least remove the old ones.

 

 

 

If you put up a guide that people read they're going to want to see what the components actually look like. Not what they used to look like.

It's ok mate, Yes they are out of date but it was a quick guide and i googled images :s.. So yah thanks for the tips. Also my BB Code needs a little refreshing :s...

I don't mean to call you a liar, but there's no way you wrote this guide. Not only are the pictures out of date, but so is the information. GeForce 6 cards are YEARS old, and no one nowadays is going to say AMD chip can compete with an Intel chip, other than perhaps in the sub-$100 range. Also, Intel stopped making Pentium 4s a long time ago. And the whole point of the naming of AMD chips (for example the Athlon 64 3800+) was to represent that the performance would be about the same as a 3.8 ghz P4. In "your" article you state that a 3 ghz P4 would be about the equivalent of an Athlon 64 4000+, which is really way off.

 

 

 

Also, you failed to mention motherboard form factors. Most motherboards are either in the ATX form factor (12" x 9.6") or the Micro-ATX form factor (9.6" x 9.6). When choosing a case you have to be sure that your case supports your motherboard form factor. Almost every case you could buy nowadays will support an ATX motherboard, so that's not really an issue. Just make sure you don't get a Micro-ATX tower if you plan on using an ATX motherboard. :P

 

 

 

Anyways, onto the pictures. Even if you are going to put up pictures from Google, make sure they're at least somewhat recent. The picture of the motherboard you used is at least 10 years old.

 

 

 

Another thing you failed to mention in your article was a distinction between the different kinds of video cards. Any video card made nowadays will be a PCI-Express video card, whereas older video cards were usually AGP. The two connection types (PCI-E and AGP) are not interchangable, so DO NOT buy a motherboard with a PCI-E x16 slot and try to put an AGP card in it. It won't work. :-s

Either way this guide was useful, seems making a computer isn't harder then putting dinner together.

Either way this guide was useful, seems making a computer isn't harder then putting dinner together.

 

 

 

Not exactly... :-s

 

 

 

You can put whatever food you want onto a plate and mix it all together and it'll still be dinner. You can't really do that with a computer.

Either way this guide was useful, seems making a computer isn't harder then putting dinner together.

 

 

 

Not exactly... :-s

 

 

 

You can put whatever food you want onto a plate and mix it all together and it'll still be dinner. You can't really do that with a computer.

 

 

 

I meant its not as hard as it sounds. From what this guide says its just knowing the right gear and plugging it together, kind of like a puzzle.

Either way this guide was useful, seems making a computer isn't harder then putting dinner together.

 

 

 

Not exactly... :-s

 

 

 

You can put whatever food you want onto a plate and mix it all together and it'll still be dinner. You can't really do that with a computer.

 

 

 

I meant its not as hard as it sounds. From what this guide says its just knowing the right gear and plugging it together, kind of like a puzzle.

 

 

 

I guess you could say that. ;)

Ok I have some time on my hands and I found some some issues that you should really fix.

 

 

 

*Why are you showing a motherboard with an ISA slot(the very bottom slot). Those went out years ago, if your showing people stuff like that they probably will get confused.

 

 

 

*Show both the Intel socket 775 and the AMD socket AM2. Those are the only sockets that people are going to use nowadays to build a computer.

 

 

 

*Show a motherboard with pci express slot. Again nobody is going to build a computer with an AGP graphics card since they are serverly outdated.

 

 

 

For high end things like gaming and high-resolution programs, you may need a good processor speed, something around 3-4ghz, or a dual core 2.5 ghz, which is pretty much adequate for most games, though if you are simply using the computer to do work or surf the net and chat a bit, then 2-3ghz should do you fine.

 

 

 

The GHz war is over. It's not about gigahertz anymore. For a example a 1.8ghz core 2 duo and beat a 3ghx (and higher) pentiumD anyday. Also AMD processors do not clock as high but they are more efficient than the pentium4, which Intel has phased out so they should not even be included.

 

 

 

An Intel Pentium 4 processor with a speed of 3ghz would perhaps be about equal to an AMD Athlon 4000+ or so. So it is up to you to choose which processor you wish to have in your computer.

 

The 3000+ would be more equivalent to the 3ghz p4.

 

 

 

RAM is measured in bytes

 

 

 

It's measured in megabytes, if it were in bytes all the ram would have a huge number. It may be in bytes in your OS or bios but when buying ram it's in MB.

 

 

 

as well as speeds and such, but that is usually complicated and doens't need to be taken into account unless you are a real enthusiast and if you were you wouldn't be reading this...

 

 

 

Wrong, you don't want people to buy the crappiest ram possible, it will be very slow and probably be a bottleneck. Suggest what some midrange ram timings and speed would be. Example: 5-5-5-12/15 at 667mhz would be midrange ram good for most average computers.

 

 

 

*explain about the how the ATI model numbers work too. Not everybody will be buying Nvidia.

 

 

 

* Raptor is not a hard drive brand. It's a name of a hard drive produced by Western Digital that is their "flagship" drive that spins at 10k rpms.

^ Everthing above

 

 

 

And also psu's do vary greatly and cutting back on a decent one is not a good idea. Also although people take for granted a 400w psu is 400w they are quite often wrong. Its important to put a bit of money into a psu as faulty voltages and jumpy power can damage your m board,cpu,ram,pci cards,graphics cards,dvd+ cd drives etc.

 

Overall though the guide is not to bad. Maybe write more about sourcing second hand parts?

 

[edit] Also I think it would be a good idea to show new motherboard. ie pci express 16x slot etc. And also quite a lot of m boards are legacy free now-ie no FDD.

It all seems a little dated to me. And also very dumbed down with a lot of stuff missing.

 

You failed to mention;

 

:arrow: SATA and PCI-Express (1, 8 and 16) on the motherboard section.

 

:arrow: Heatsinks (or thermal paste), in the motherboard, processor and graphics card sections.

 

:arrow: Single, Dual and Quad cores in the processor section.

 

:arrow: Dual channel ram

 

:arrow: SATA, ATA and SCSI, in the hard drive section.

 

:arrow: Lightscribe and Labelflash, and ATA, SATA and SCSI, HD-DVD and blueray in the CD/DVD section

 

:arrow: You failed to tell people to be wary of buying a $5 powersupply or using a power supply which cames with a very cheap case as its more likely to fail which can/will damage other parts of the pc. You should also link to the Powersupply calculator as it will allow be to ensure they get a powersupply suitable for there system.

 

 

 

As for the guide overall is not bad, but you should defiantly mention the above points as they are all vital when building a PC.

 

If you need any help I'll gladly help.

To add to my post above. Don't talk about all of that ram like SDram and such. It has no use with todays technology. If you are trying to appeal to the average user, confusing them about parts that will have no use to them is not the way to go.

 

 

 

Just talk about DD2 ram and possibly DD3. DDR1 ram is also being phased out and somebody who is building a computer will not want to go with that or even find a new motherboard that supports it.

Wow, it's nice to see that I'm not the only one on Tipit that knows stuff about computers. XD

Hey, Thanks for the criticism yes, I do know that the pictures are VERY old. It's just i was in a bit of a hurry.. :s but i'll fix him up a little soon. I'm VERY busy with schooling etc. Thanks,

 

 

 

Sparkells.

Either way this guide was useful, seems making a computer isn't harder then putting dinner together.

 

 

 

Not exactly... :-s

 

 

 

You can put whatever food you want onto a plate and mix it all together and it'll still be dinner. You can't really do that with a computer.

 

 

 

I meant its not as hard as it sounds. From what this guide says its just knowing the right gear and plugging it together, kind of like a puzzle.

 

 

 

and then wondering why your puzzle refuses to work even after youre sure you did everything right.. and finding that tucked away in one of the many manuals you skimmed through... There was something else you had to do.. and you'll have to start over.

I forgot to mention that you should definitely mention what OEM means as it can save people a lot of cash or cause major hassle.

 

 

 

My own explaination.

 

OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer

 

This means your buying only the part without any extras, for example a OEM hard drive is only the hard drive (no cables).

 

 

 

Points to note.

 

:arrow: OEM Processors do not include a heatsink or thermal glue meaning you will have to buy these separate.

 

:arrow: OEM Hard, CV/DVD and floppy drives will not include any cables. However most motherboards will come with a selection of cables for them.

I'm really interested in building my own computer, it will probably be in a few years though when my current one begins to become noticeably outdated.

 

 

 

Which probably means the information in the posts that corrected the first will also be outdated :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really seems interesting though, i'm sure it will teach me a hell of a lot more about computers :D I currently only have good knowledge of the software side of computing.

Most of your guide isnt too bad, but the processor section was fairly inaccurate. Currently, the Intel core 2 duo line stomps on the AMD processors, and the thing about the speed in Ghz isn't quite right either. While it is relavant within famlies of processors, outside of those families, its a almost useless indicator of a chip's speed. One other thing, on higher end gaming computers, 4 or even 8 gigs of ram isnt all that unusual. Otherwise, it was a good guide.

Most of your guide isnt too bad, but the processor section was fairly inaccurate. Currently, the Intel core 2 duo line stomps on the AMD processors, and the thing about the speed in Ghz isn't quite right either. While it is relavant within famlies of processors, outside of those families, its a almost useless indicator of a chip's speed. One other thing, on higher end gaming computers, 4 or even 8 gigs of ram isnt all that unusual. Otherwise, it was a good guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL. 4 gigs of RAM is still VERY unusual. 8 GB of RAM is just unheard of.

 

Most of your guide isnt too bad, but the processor section was fairly inaccurate. Currently, the Intel core 2 duo line stomps on the AMD processors, and the thing about the speed in Ghz isn't quite right either. While it is relavant within famlies of processors, outside of those families, its a almost useless indicator of a chip's speed. One other thing, on higher end gaming computers, 4 or even 8 gigs of ram isnt all that unusual. Otherwise, it was a good guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL. 4 gigs of RAM is still VERY unusual. 8 GB of RAM is just unheard of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL I just ordered 8 gigs of ram for a new computer I'm building.

 

 

Most of your guide isnt too bad, but the processor section was fairly inaccurate. Currently, the Intel core 2 duo line stomps on the AMD processors, and the thing about the speed in Ghz isn't quite right either. While it is relavant within famlies of processors, outside of those families, its a almost useless indicator of a chip's speed. One other thing, on higher end gaming computers, 4 or even 8 gigs of ram isnt all that unusual. Otherwise, it was a good guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL. 4 gigs of RAM is still VERY unusual. 8 GB of RAM is just unheard of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL I just ordered 8 gigs of ram for a new computer I'm building.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Overkill much? What did you have to buy? Two 4gb kits? Thats like $550 for just ram.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I doubt, no, I guaranty you that you will never use that much ram unless you are really trying to, such as running two games at once.

 

 

Most of your guide isnt too bad, but the processor section was fairly inaccurate. Currently, the Intel core 2 duo line stomps on the AMD processors, and the thing about the speed in Ghz isn't quite right either. While it is relavant within famlies of processors, outside of those families, its a almost useless indicator of a chip's speed. One other thing, on higher end gaming computers, 4 or even 8 gigs of ram isnt all that unusual. Otherwise, it was a good guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL. 4 gigs of RAM is still VERY unusual. 8 GB of RAM is just unheard of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL I just ordered 8 gigs of ram for a new computer I'm building.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Congrats, tell me when you actually use 1/4 of it.