Attention...Recognition and Lies, Which+Why do YOU Seek it?

[Sy_Accursed]

I think the 2 types of attention can be divided by attitude and maturity

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Positive Attention is probably gained by NOT seeking it consciously.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bad Attention is gained by trying to get attention and probably put on you by other friends trying to use your achievements to make them seem better.

[rareghoul1]

 

 

...to be better than other people which is the same as attention.

 

 

 

But only if you let other people know about it.

 

 

 

Even if it's one person, it's still attention. I highly doubt people get an 99 an don't tell no one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting a goal in a skill is to get attention.

 

 

 

Not for everyone.

 

 

 

Reaching a goal in a skill could be a means of earning money.

 

 

 

After all, Yew chopping autoers didn't reach their levels to get "attention"

 

 

 

As I said in an example in my post, it isn't always directly for attention. In this example, why would you need money? To get cool stuff? To get more 99s? Just to have?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well nick, some people actually just like to set goals, to get money, to play the game better. like me. i'm poor, and don' have the equipment that could make my life easier, so i'm setting goals for myself to make the money for that equipment. if a got a 99 doing that, i would probably buy the cape, but i'm not trying to get an easy 99 just to have a cape. and i've never spent my money on something that is impratical, such as elegant clothing. all it is is for showing off, and i don't like wasting money on just showing off. if i had a choice between a party hat or full dragon, but i could never sell them, i'd choose the full dragon, simply because the party hat is impractical. that's how i play every video game, i don't seek attention, i seek ways to make it more enjoyable and easier to play.

[Rebdragon]

Ya'll who keep saying you never seek attention are full of crap. No other way to put it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Humans, by our very nature, desire attention. Runescape players almost always have a heightened need to seek attention over the general population, through getting high levels, getting cool items, etcetera.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, why do you wear that skill cape around in times where it's completely worthless to be using it? You wear the cape because you want people to know you have a 99, you wear it for the feeling of being one of the best. Don't deny it, 'cause whether it's subconcious or concious thought, you, I, everyone wants attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me, I'm a perfect example of what you all probably are but don't want to admit: though an honest and helpful player, I have more than my share of attention seeking needs in the game. As an example, before I left the game, I always loved to play Castle Wars, being the big game-saving Barrager on the team. Games got boring and repetitive after a while, but the feeling I got from my teamates shocked faces when I pulled out the Ice Cubes of Genocide gave me a great feeling, one that kept me in the game for a great while longer. Months in fact, of burning excess runes and playing solely to be the star of the small-sided Castle Wars game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I loved being the center of attention, and so do you, so stop denying it and move on.

[rareghoul1]

Ya'll who keep saying you never seek attention are full of crap. No other way to put it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Humans, by our very nature, desire attention. Runescape players almost always have a heightened need to seek attention over the general population, through getting high levels, getting cool items, etcetera.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, why do you wear that skill cape around in times where it's completely worthless to be using it? You wear the cape because you want people to know you have a 99, you wear it for the feeling of being one of the best. Don't deny it, 'cause whether it's subconcious or concious thought, you, I, everyone wants attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me, I'm a perfect example of what you all probably are but don't want to admit: though an honest and helpful player, I have more than my share of attention seeking needs in the game. As an example, before I left the game, I always loved to play Castle Wars, being the big game-saving Barrager on the team. Games got boring and repetitive after a while, but the feeling I got from my teamates shocked faces when I pulled out the Ice Cubes of Genocide gave me a great feeling, one that kept me in the game for a great while longer. Months in fact, of burning excess runes and playing solely to be the star of the small-sided Castle Wars game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I loved being the center of attention, and so do you, so stop denying it and move on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you're forgetting one thing: seeking attention is different than being proud of yourself. some people just wear their skillcapes to remind themselves of their great achievements, an example of someone doing this is wearing it where noone goes. you can't say someone is seeking attention by wearing a skillcape if they are always in a place hardly anybody goes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of course, there's also the fact that skill capes give good defense bonuses and trimmed give a prayer bonus. if you have a 99, they're a cheap alternative to an obby cape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: :XD:

[Goobore]

... However with my beliefs and the way I have been raised and the choices I have made in my life.

 

 

 

I believe that no matter how small or how trivial the thing the person is wrong about, should be corrected.

 

 

 

I usually only respond that way when the person uses words like

 

 

 

"all" or "everyone" or "best".

 

 

 

Many players make statements that are just too broad

 

 

 

and need some clarity thrown in for better understanding.

 

 

 

And that, you know, that's where the "gentleness" thing comes in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... why should the one person that is wrong try to decive others in the first place with what they say?

 

 

 

Were they really trying to deceive others or were they just ignorant about their facts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I once had a heated discussion on this forum with a player that thought that any player that made an incorrect statement was a liar.

 

 

 

He just couldn't understand that intent made all the difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Curse you goobore for me getting carpul tunel even sooner now...

 

 

 

Sorry :oops: :-w

[GrimHams]

Ya'll who keep saying you never seek attention are full of crap. No other way to put it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Humans, by our very nature, desire attention. Runescape players almost always have a heightened need to seek attention over the general population, through getting high levels, getting cool items, etcetera.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, why do you wear that skill cape around in times where it's completely worthless to be using it? You wear the cape because you want people to know you have a 99, you wear it for the feeling of being one of the best. Don't deny it, 'cause whether it's subconcious or concious thought, you, I, everyone wants attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me, I'm a perfect example of what you all probably are but don't want to admit: though an honest and helpful player, I have more than my share of attention seeking needs in the game. As an example, before I left the game, I always loved to play Castle Wars, being the big game-saving Barrager on the team. Games got boring and repetitive after a while, but the feeling I got from my teamates shocked faces when I pulled out the Ice Cubes of Genocide gave me a great feeling, one that kept me in the game for a great while longer. Months in fact, of burning excess runes and playing solely to be the star of the small-sided Castle Wars game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I loved being the center of attention, and so do you, so stop denying it and move on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, don't tell me what im like, there are some people on this forum who dont even give out their RSN's because they don't want people to know who they are. You may have a void in real life where you feel you need to impress random people on runescape but not everyone else is like you. :lol: You've done a pretty good job of putting everyone on the entire planet under an umbrella of attention seeking so i have to applaud you =D>

[rareghoul1]

 

... However with my beliefs and the way I have been raised and the choices I have made in my life.

 

 

 

I believe that no matter how small or how trivial the thing the person is wrong about, should be corrected.

 

 

 

I usually only respond that way when the person uses words like

 

 

 

"all" or "everyone" or "best".

 

 

 

Many players make statements that are just too broad

 

 

 

and need some clarity thrown in for better understanding.

 

 

 

And that, you know, that's where the "gentleness" thing comes in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... why should the one person that is wrong try to decive others in the first place with what they say?

 

 

 

Were they really trying to deceive others or were they just ignorant about their facts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I once had a heated discussion on this forum with a player that thought that any player that made an incorrect statement was a liar.

 

 

 

He just couldn't understand that intent made all the difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Curse you goobore for me getting carpul tunel even sooner now...

 

 

 

Sorry :oops: :-w

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you don't already have carpul tunel with those stats druminator? i got it playing oblivion for a week trying to figure out how to make a level 52 character....

[Moonshadow]

I do seek attention a little bit. I am not going to deny it it all, because, if i do, it will be painfully obvious and it would attract the kind of attention I do not wish to attract. My blog, is a huge example. It is also kind of a log of what I do and it does motivate me to keep going.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I bought full guthix, even though I had the money for full saradomin, zamorak and guthix all at the same time, it would make me feel good when someone would compliment me on my armour. Whenever someone asks me my skill levels, I am not usually the type who will not answer them. I will usually answer them. When someone says, nice or wow, how did you get that, it makes me feel good. Very flattering .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't seek attention like a drug though. It is just one of those small things that makes me feel nice once in a while.

[Matok]

Ya'll who keep saying you never seek attention are full of crap

 

 

 

.....bla..bla...bla..muuuu...muuuuuuu...muuuuu...

 

 

 

 

 

 

god...dunno about others but you certainly want your attention

 

 

 

when you'll grow up a bit and see more of the world around you you'll speak differently.....or not

 

 

 

Off-topic:your sig realy suits you

[rareghoul1]

 

Ya'll who keep saying you never seek attention are full of crap

 

 

 

.....bla..bla...bla..muuuu...muuuuuuu...muuuuu...

 

 

 

 

 

 

god...dunno about others but you certainly want your attension

 

 

 

when you'll grow up a bit and see more of the world around you you'll speak differently.....or not

 

 

 

Off-topic:your sig realy suits you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

he already said he likes attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and he is grown up unlike you. he's speaking from a philosophical standpoint, i wouldn't be surprised if he sat in a library and read in the philosophical section with those ideas(no offense). and the fact that you wrote "bla bla bla" certainly shows that you are immature, and probably seek attention yourself while denying it.

[Goobore]

Ya'll who keep saying you never seek attention are full of crap. No other way to put it.

 

 

 

lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Humans, by our very nature, desire attention.

 

 

 

Newborn babies do.

 

 

 

Some of us do manage to, eventually, outgrow that immaturity...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..Runescape players almost always have a heightened need to seek attention over the general population,

 

 

 

If this were a serious debate then I would ask for you to provide a link

 

 

 

to the psychology study that came to that conclusion.

 

 

 

Otherwise, it's just your personal opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, why do you wear that skill cape

 

 

 

But what about the more than 800000 players that can't wear any skill cape at all?

 

 

 

Your comments don't really apply to us then, do they?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...you, I, everyone wants attention.

 

 

 

You really need to understand that there are players out there with

 

 

 

vastly different life experiences from your own.

 

 

 

And those players may feel contentent with their life, job, finances, family, etc

 

 

 

and not feel any compulsion whatsoever to try and impress a bunch

 

 

 

people playing an online game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... example of what you all probably are but don't want to admit: though an honest and helpful player, I have more than my share of attention seeking needs in the game.

 

 

 

Sigh...

 

 

 

Some of us have enough complications, stress, and responsibility

 

 

 

in our lives that we don't need to seek attention this way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I loved being the center of attention, and so do you, so stop denying it and move on.

 

 

 

lol,

 

 

 

friend ,some of us already have (emotional maturity-wise that is)

[Giordano]

 

 

 

...to be better than other people which is the same as attention.

 

 

 

But only if you let other people know about it.

 

 

 

Even if it's one person, it's still attention.

 

 

 

Yes, provided that you actually let someone else know about it.

 

 

 

Is it attention that I get when I level mining from 85 to 86 and then tell no-one about it?

 

 

 

You're still doing it unconciencly(SP) though. Not a whole lot of people have 86 mining, and even if you didn't plan it, people looking up highscores or look at 85+ Miners, they'll see you. Attention is just letting other peole know about you, which no matter what you do, you will.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this makes me rethink of the title "attention-seeker" to "attention-gathering". Getting attention doesn't HAVE to be planned, we're getting attention right now in this discussion. I know I'm not doing this for attention, and neither are you, we're just trying to prove our points. But we'lre still getting attention to ourselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting a goal in a skill is to get attention.

 

 

 

Not for everyone.

 

 

 

Reaching a goal in a skill could be a means of earning money.

 

 

 

After all, Yew chopping autoers didn't reach their levels to get "attention"

 

 

 

As I said in an example in my post, it isn't always directly for attention.

 

 

 

Well, your overall message appears to be something like "people level for attention"

 

 

 

I think that many players feel that leveling is just what needs to be done to reach your goals.

 

 

 

Um...goals ARE leveling, since you obivious need to raise levels to reach a goal. Regardless, you're still getting attention to yourself at reaching a goal. You might get this goal for attention or because it's fun. Even if you do it for fun, either a small part of you is doing it for attention as well, or peple will notice you and your new skill (such as a Blog) which brings attention to yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In this example, why would you need money?

 

 

 

To get cool stuff? To get more 99s? Just to have?

 

 

 

Perhaps to allow faster training.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure that we both know that RS has a lot of skill grinding to do

 

 

 

and buying certain raw materials can vastly speed up training.

 

 

 

And again, why would you want to train skill? To get an 99? Goals? More money?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well nick, some people actually just like to set goals, to get money, to play the game better. like me. i'm poor, and don' have the equipment that could make my life easier, so i'm setting goals for myself to make the money for that equipment. if a got a 99 doing that, i would probably buy the cape, but i'm not trying to get an easy 99 just to have a cape. and i've never spent my money on something that is impratical, such as elegant clothing. all it is is for showing off, and i don't like wasting money on just showing off. if i had a choice between a party hat or full dragon, but i could never sell them, i'd choose the full dragon, simply because the party hat is impractical. that's how i play every video game, i don't seek attention, i seek ways to make it more enjoyable and easier to play.

 

 

 

I agree people play the game for fun, but don't you feel perhaps a small portion on yourself to get some attention? Yes? Then you agree with me. No? Then you're going to get attention even if you didn't plan it or want it. If you try to improve the game, people would reconize you. If you get levels for fun, then people will reconize you. It's not so much as 'attention-seeking' as I foolishly said before, but more of 'attention-gathering'. Even if you don't want attention, you're still going to get it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paw said it pretty simply and nicely too, read his post too. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as Reb Drag the Science Guy said, people need attention. Soicalizing is getting attention to yourself, and we know humans can't live and normal life without socializing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But overall, people who say they don't want attention, you're pretty much trying to be an 'outcast', and thus giving you the attention you somehow didn't want.

[Matok]

 

 

 

he already said he likes attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and he is grown up unlike you. he's speaking from a philosophical standpoint, i wouldn't be surprised if he sat in a library and read in the philosophical section with those ideas(no offense). and the fact that you wrote "bla bla bla" certainly shows that you are immature, and probably seek attention yourself while denying it.

 

 

 

i wont get into "maturity arguments" here but that was a typical 16-18 years old know-it-all post, nothing philosophical here believe me...

 

 

 

btw i am not sure the "He" isn't a "She"..

[rareghoul1]

[hide=uneeded]

 

 

 

 

...to be better than other people which is the same as attention.

 

 

 

But only if you let other people know about it.

 

 

 

Even if it's one person, it's still attention.

 

 

 

Yes, provided that you actually let someone else know about it.

 

 

 

Is it attention that I get when I level mining from 85 to 86 and then tell no-one about it?

 

 

 

You're still doing it unconciencly(SP) though. Not a whole lot of people have 86 mining, and even if you didn't plan it, people looking up highscores or look at 85+ Miners, they'll see you. Attention is just letting other peole know about you, which no matter what you do, you will.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But this makes me rethink of the title "attention-seeker" to "attention-gathering". Getting attention doesn't HAVE to be planned, we're getting attention right now in this discussion. I know I'm not doing this for attention, and neither are you, we're just trying to prove our points. But we'lre still getting attention to ourselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting a goal in a skill is to get attention.

 

 

 

Not for everyone.

 

 

 

Reaching a goal in a skill could be a means of earning money.

 

 

 

After all, Yew chopping autoers didn't reach their levels to get "attention"

 

 

 

As I said in an example in my post, it isn't always directly for attention.

 

 

 

Well, your overall message appears to be something like "people level for attention"

 

 

 

I think that many players feel that leveling is just what needs to be done to reach your goals.

 

 

 

Um...goals ARE leveling, since you obivious need to raise levels to reach a goal. Regardless, you're still getting attention to yourself at reaching a goal. You might get this goal for attention or because it's fun. Even if you do it for fun, either a small part of you is doing it for attention as well, or peple will notice you and your new skill (such as a Blog) which brings attention to yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In this example, why would you need money?

 

 

 

To get cool stuff? To get more 99s? Just to have?

 

 

 

Perhaps to allow faster training.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure that we both know that RS has a lot of skill grinding to do

 

 

 

and buying certain raw materials can vastly speed up training.

 

 

 

And again, why would you want to train skill? To get an 99? Goals? More money?[/hide]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

well nick, some people actually just like to set goals, to get money, to play the game better. like me. i'm poor, and don' have the equipment that could make my life easier, so i'm setting goals for myself to make the money for that equipment. if a got a 99 doing that, i would probably buy the cape, but i'm not trying to get an easy 99 just to have a cape. and i've never spent my money on something that is impratical, such as elegant clothing. all it is is for showing off, and i don't like wasting money on just showing off. if i had a choice between a party hat or full dragon, but i could never sell them, i'd choose the full dragon, simply because the party hat is impractical. that's how i play every video game, i don't seek attention, i seek ways to make it more enjoyable and easier to play.

 

 

 

I agree people play the game for fun, but don't you feel perhaps a small portion on yourself to get some attention? Yes? Then you agree with me. No? Then you're going to get attention even if you didn't plan it or want it. If you try to improve the game, people would reconize you. If you get levels for fun, then people will reconize you. It's not so much as 'attention-seeking' as I foolishly said before, but more of 'attention-gathering'. Even if you don't want attention, you're still going to get it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paw said it pretty simply and nicely too, read his post too. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as Reb Drag the Science Guy said, people need attention. Soicalizing is getting attention to yourself, and we know humans can't live and normal life without socializing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But overall, people who say they don't want attention, you're pretty much trying to be an 'outcast', and thus giving you the attention you somehow didn't want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

true, i am getting attention just trying to better myself, i won't deny that. but druminator said that all people seek attention, which isn't true. i neither seek attention, nor go out of my way to avoid attention. in fact, i usually have more attention than i want, i'm the kind of guy that thinks more than 5 friends is having too many, because then you can't keep up with them all at once and you can't all talk to each other. so i designed the way i make friends in runescape around that, eventually i have about 50 friends, and about 2-10 are on at all times. i didn't make friends according to when they get on runescape, but i made just enough friends so that math shows there will be 5 friends on at all times. once i reached that number of freinds, i stopped trying to make more. that doesn't mean i cahnged my personality to be meaner, simply means i don't ask someone to be a friend after we had a good chat or see each other a lot and help each other. so, i guess i do seek attention, but i seek very little, and try to avoid getting more if i don't have to go out of my way to do it.

[Aquashock]

 

Im lost...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, you did....something there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, i THINK your talking about people who assert things that are false. For example the "fact" that 1 def pures are hybrids because they have 99 att and str :-w or so says another tiffer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh, come off it aqua. i said that because last time i played rs that's how it was. anyway, it loooks like now the definition has changed so i'm giving up the old one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ill "come off it" when you admit you were wrong to begin with. Ive played since before the wilderness and that definition was NEVER used in the context you used it in. You saying it changed is only a way of getting around you being wrong.

[rareghoul1]

 

 

Im lost...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, you did....something there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, i THINK your talking about people who assert things that are false. For example the "fact" that 1 def pures are hybrids because they have 99 att and str :-w or so says another tiffer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh, come off it aqua. i said that because last time i played rs that's how it was. anyway, it loooks like now the definition has changed so i'm giving up the old one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ill "come off it" when you admit you were wrong to begin with. Ive played since before the wilderness and that definition was NEVER used in the context you used it in. You saying it changed is only a way of getting around you being wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

true, but i also came across that definition in f2p, i didn't think that the definition would change between p2p and f2p. that was the opinion in f2p when my account never became a member, i spent quite a lot of time in the wilderness hearing those things, even if i didn't pk.

[Aquashock]

 

 

 

Im lost...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, you did....something there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, i THINK your talking about people who assert things that are false. For example the "fact" that 1 def pures are hybrids because they have 99 att and str :-w or so says another tiffer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh, come off it aqua. i said that because last time i played rs that's how it was. anyway, it loooks like now the definition has changed so i'm giving up the old one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ill "come off it" when you admit you were wrong to begin with. Ive played since before the wilderness and that definition was NEVER used in the context you used it in. You saying it changed is only a way of getting around you being wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

true, but i also came across that definition in f2p, i didn't think that the definition would change between p2p and f2p. that was the opinion in f2p when my account never became a member, i spent quite a lot of time in the wilderness hearing those things, even if i didn't pk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was f2p untill 2004, and spent nearly all of my time in the wilderness. Just the fact that no one but you has supported the definition makes me doubt you. And the way you worded your last response, you admited to being wrong, but then you try to back it up as though your still saying your right. Im done, im going play a good game of Runescape.

[rareghoul1]

 

 

 

 

Im lost...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But yeah, you did....something there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, i THINK your talking about people who assert things that are false. For example the "fact" that 1 def pures are hybrids because they have 99 att and str :-w or so says another tiffer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh, come off it aqua. i said that because last time i played rs that's how it was. anyway, it loooks like now the definition has changed so i'm giving up the old one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ill "come off it" when you admit you were wrong to begin with. Ive played since before the wilderness and that definition was NEVER used in the context you used it in. You saying it changed is only a way of getting around you being wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

true, but i also came across that definition in f2p, i didn't think that the definition would change between p2p and f2p. that was the opinion in f2p when my account never became a member, i spent quite a lot of time in the wilderness hearing those things, even if i didn't pk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was f2p untill 2004, and spent nearly all of my time in the wilderness. Just the fact that no one but you has supported the definition makes me doubt you. And the way you worded your last response, you admited to being wrong, but then you try to back it up as though your still saying your right. Im done, im going play a good game of Runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i said i was wrong about the p2p definition, and probably the f2p definition now. i pretty sure f2p and p2p had different views on it before, because all f2pers got out of attack was rune, while p2pers could get whips, therefore f2pers didn't get their combat levels up just to wield rune, while p2pers got their combat up to wield a whip, an awesome weapon. that's, i'm pretty sure, why we have different definitions.

[DRUMINATOR17]

 

 

 

you don't already have carpul tunel with those stats druminator? i got it playing oblivion for a week trying to figure out how to make a level 52 character....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Isnt that a rather gutsy and quite hypocritical statement to make coming from the person with what is most likely the highest daily post count in all of tip.it forums?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

true, i am getting attention just trying to better myself, i won't deny that. but druminator said that all people seek attention, which isn't true. i neither seek attention, nor go out of my way to avoid attention. in fact, i usually have more attention than i want, i'm the kind of guy that thinks more than 5 friends is having too many, because then you can't keep up with them all at once and you can't all talk to each other. so i designed the way i make friends in runescape around that, eventually i have about 50 friends, and about 2-10 are on at all times. i didn't make friends according to when they get on runescape, but i made just enough friends so that math shows there will be 5 friends on at all times. once i reached that number of freinds, i stopped trying to make more. that doesn't mean i cahnged my personality to be meaner, simply means i don't ask someone to be a friend after we had a good chat or see each other a lot and help each other. so, i guess i do seek attention, but i seek very little, and try to avoid getting more if i don't have to go out of my way to do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If its not true, then please by all means post an example to back up your case in which all people dont desire attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a classic Example of the glass being half empty or half full, either way you look at it it is still the same thing, and to some extent people always have and most likely always will continue to be hardwired and born with a desire to get attention.

[berbatovsky]

All those saying everyone seeks attention is rather naive, naive the way an 4 year old thinks they know everything. I can't remember a single time i've boasted to others in-game, tbh if you have a high level (relative i know) in a skill its a hastle, someone will say wat lvl r u?! and you say it and they either respond wow sick or wow your lame, i don't want anyone adoring me or abhoring me based on the amount of time a play the game. I play lots of games single and multiplayer but i don't play any of them to have people think i'm good at them, i play them because i enjoy them, if this is a foreign idea to you thats because you are imature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes i might look at the high scores and think i want to have higher skills but when, where and how has does that mean i'm seeking attention?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are all COMPETITIVE from birth that does not mean we all seek ATTENTION. There is rather a large difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: i suppose you could counter that with......look at your signature, but i havent updated my sig in a while, and i like the way it looks and without the text it would look empty, maybe ill replace the text with another awesome stickman drawing.

[rareghoul1]

 

 

 

 

you don't already have carpul tunel with those stats druminator? i got it playing oblivion for a week trying to figure out how to make a level 52 character....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Isnt that a rather gutsy and quite hypocritical statement to make coming from the person with what is most likely the highest daily post count in all of tip.it forums?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that was really just a joke, i don't have carpul tunal. and just because i like to post means i seek attention? i just like chatting i guess, but it really distracts me from runescape....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

true, i am getting attention just trying to better myself, i won't deny that. but druminator said that all people seek attention, which isn't true. i neither seek attention, nor go out of my way to avoid attention. in fact, i usually have more attention than i want, i'm the kind of guy that thinks more than 5 friends is having too many, because then you can't keep up with them all at once and you can't all talk to each other. so i designed the way i make friends in runescape around that, eventually i have about 50 friends, and about 2-10 are on at all times. i didn't make friends according to when they get on runescape, but i made just enough friends so that math shows there will be 5 friends on at all times. once i reached that number of freinds, i stopped trying to make more. that doesn't mean i cahnged my personality to be meaner, simply means i don't ask someone to be a friend after we had a good chat or see each other a lot and help each other. so, i guess i do seek attention, but i seek very little, and try to avoid getting more if i don't have to go out of my way to do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If its not true, then please by all means post an example to back up your case in which all people dont desire attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a classic Example of the glass being half empty or half full, either way you look at it it is still the same thing, and to some extent people always have and most likely always will continue to be hardwired and born with a desire to get attention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

an example: the only attention i seek is friends, and very little, as i explained in a previous post. in runescape, i don't buy fancy clothes or armor just for people to say nice armor, i spend my money on more practical things. the reason i am going for those 2 99s right now is to make money, which i have needed for a long time. while people my level are walking around in d meds, d legs, obby shields and granite plates, i can't even afford the granite plate. so i set goals to get this better armor, thus making my game more enjoyable. that's an example of me not seeking attention. except for friends, but everyone needs friends.

[Aquashock]

All those saying everyone seeks attention is rather naive, naive the way an 4 year old thinks they know everything. I can't remember a single time i've boasted to others in-game, tbh if you have a high level (relative i know) in a skill its a hastle, someone will say wat lvl r u?! and you say it and they either respond wow sick or wow your lame, i don't want anyone adoring me or abhoring me based on the amount of time a play the game. I play lots of games single and multiplayer but i don't play any of them to have people think i'm good at them, i play them because i enjoy them, if this is a foreign idea to you thats because you are imature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes i might look at the high scores and think i want to have higher skills but when, where and how has does that mean i'm seeking attention?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are all COMPETITIVE from birth that does not mean we all seek ATTENTION. There is rather a large difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im not even going to get into this argument, because i know how it will end. I was planning to make a argument to show you how attention and being competitive are the same thing. Then i would expect you would either point out the flaws in the argument or make a stronger one, and it would go on untill one of of gave up or made the other one look so wrong that he himself thinks he is wrong.

[berbatovsky]

Ill save you the bother of wondering what would have happened by showing you, defintions of words taken from dictionary.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Competitive: comÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷petÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷iÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷tive ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâadjective 1. of, pertaining to, involving, or decided by competition: competitive sports; a competitive examination.

 

 

 

2. well suited for competition; having a feature that makes for successful competition: a competitive price.

 

 

 

3. having a strong desire to compete or to succeed.

 

 

 

4. useful to a competitor; giving a competitor an advantage: He was careful not to divulge competitive information about his invention.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Attention: atÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷tenÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷tion -noun 1. the act or faculty of attending, esp. by directing the mind to an object.

 

 

 

2. Psychology. a. a concentration of the mind on a single object or thought, esp. one preferentially selected from a complex, with a view to limiting or clarifying receptivity by narrowing the range of stimuli.

 

 

 

b. a state of consciousness characterized by such concentration.

 

 

 

c. a capacity to maintain selective or sustained concentration.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. observant care; consideration: Individual attention is given to each child.

 

 

 

4. civility or courtesy: attention to a guest.

 

 

 

5. notice or awareness: His deliberate cough caught the waiter's attention.

 

 

 

6. attentions, acts of courtesy or devotion indicating affection, as in courtship.

 

 

 

7. Military. an erect position with eyes to the front, arms to the sides, and heels together (often used as a command).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

unforunately i can't think of an adjective for attention seeking because i've never used anything other than attention seeker to talk about people who seek attention. I did find this though:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The need for attention

 

 

 

'Human beings are social creatures and need social interaction, feedback, and validation of their worth. The emotionally mature person doesn't need to go hunting for these; they gain it naturally from their daily life, especially from their work and from stable relationships. Daniel Goleman calls emotional maturity emotional intelligence, or EQ; he believes, and I agree, that EQ is a much better indicator of a person's character and value than intelligence quotient, or IQ.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The emotionally immature person, however, has low levels of self-esteem and self-confidence and consequently feels insecure; to counter these feelings of insecurity they will spend a large proportion of their lives creating situations in which they become the centre of attention. It may be that the need for attention is inversely proportional to emotional maturity, therefore anyone indulging in attention-seeking behaviours is telling you how emotionally immature they are.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(taken from:http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/attent.htm)

[Rebdragon]

Before I start my long responses (damn slow computer...), I'd like to commend this man:

 

 

 

I do seek attention a little bit. I am not going to deny it it all, because, if i do, it will be painfully obvious and it would attract the kind of attention I do not wish to attract. My blog, is a huge example. It is also kind of a log of what I do and it does motivate me to keep going.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I bought full guthix, even though I had the money for full saradomin, zamorak and guthix all at the same time, it would make me feel good when someone would compliment me on my armour. Whenever someone asks me my skill levels, I am not usually the type who will not answer them. I will usually answer them. When someone says, nice or wow, how did you get that, it makes me feel good. Very flattering .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't seek attention like a drug though. It is just one of those small things that makes me feel nice once in a while.

 

 

 

He admits that he does it a little. He doesn't do it much, and most it is is most likely subconscious, but he admits the truth that he, like everyone else, needs attention. Thank you for being one of the few.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, for the pain...

 

 

 

Ok, don't tell me what im like, there are some people on this forum who dont even give out their RSN's because they don't want people to know who they are. You may have a void in real life where you feel you need to impress random people on runescape but not everyone else is like you. :lol: You've done a pretty good job of putting everyone on the entire planet under an umbrella of attention seeking so i have to applaud you =D>

 

 

 

You may desire attention more subconsciously than conciously, and I'm sure you're a great person at all, but don't tell me you've never had times when you just loved the feeling of being better than someone else in this game. Don't tell me you've never done something for the feeling of being a great player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As I said, humans, by their nature, desire attention. I'm sure you're all great people you don't usually consciously desire attention, but we all do at some point or another. Whether we play for fun, or to be competitive, we all have our times where we really just want and love to have attention and recognition in the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not trying to be condescending, just stating a general fact.

 

 

 

 

Ya'll who keep saying you never seek attention are full of crap

 

 

 

.....bla..bla...bla..muuuu...muuuuuuu...muuuuu...

 

 

 

 

 

 

god...dunno about others but you certainly want your attention

 

 

 

when you'll grow up a bit and see more of the world around you you'll speak differently.....or not

 

 

 

Off-topic:your sig realy suits you

 

 

 

Ya'll need to stop with this holier than thou crud. Being realistic does not make one immature. Not to start a flame war or anything, but denying the fact that humans intrinsically need attention, and acting like you're above everyone else by saying you don't need attention, is slightly lower on the maturity spectrum :| .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and thank you, Fullmetal Alchemist does in fact rock. That quote right there actually came directly from that character, one who identify with greatly as an agnostic, scientistic, and realist. Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist, ftw.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you understand the anime (and at least knew who the protaganist was) you'd realize your attempt at an insult was actually a complement :wink: .

 

 

 

 

Humans, by our very nature, desire attention.

 

 

 

Newborn babies do.

 

 

 

Some of us do manage to, eventually, outgrow that immaturity...

 

 

 

Oh, get off your high horse and take a psychology class. We all desire attention, it is a fundamental NEED in humans to survive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..Runescape players almost always have a heightened need to seek attention over the general population,

 

 

 

If this were a serious debate then I would ask for you to provide a link

 

 

 

to the psychology study that came to that conclusion.

 

 

 

Otherwise, it's just your personal opinion.

 

 

 

It's more on the level of common sense. Little twelve year olds sitting at a computer, playing a mindless online multiplayer game getting high levels to have the best character they can :| .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, why do you wear that skill cape

 

 

 

But what about the more than 800000 players that can't wear any skill cape at all?

 

 

 

Your comments don't really apply to us then, do they?

 

 

 

It's a general statement for all items that improve ones status, not just skill capes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...you, I, everyone wants attention.

 

 

 

You really need to understand that there are players out there with

 

 

 

vastly different life experiences from your own.

 

 

 

And those players may feel contentent with their life, job, finances, family, etc

 

 

 

and not feel any compulsion whatsoever to try and impress a bunch

 

 

 

people playing an online game.

 

 

 

Hehe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... example of what you all probably are but don't want to admit: though an honest and helpful player, I have more than my share of attention seeking needs in the game.

 

 

 

Sigh...

 

 

 

Some of us have enough complications, stress, and responsibility

 

 

 

in our lives that we don't need to seek attention this way.

 

 

 

Again, everyone, cut the holier than thou crap and be realistic here. Whether it be subconscious or concsious decision making, we all wish for attention in some way or another.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I loved being the center of attention, and so do you, so stop denying it and move on.

 

 

 

lol,

 

 

 

friend ,some of us already have (emotional maturity-wise that is)

 

 

 

Cute, insults and denial, all wrapped up so nicely in one line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Resorting to calling me immature every five seconds isn't really helping your arguments people.

[Goobore]

...You're still doing it unconciencly(SP) though.

 

 

 

Unconscious or unconcerned or unaware?

 

 

 

The topic under discussion is, I thought, "Players play the game in a manner to seek deliberately seek attention".

 

 

 

Maybe that's not what we are talking about here anymore.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not a whole lot of people have 86 mining, and even if you didn't plan it,

 

 

 

people looking up highscores or look at 85+ Miners, they'll see you.

 

 

 

Just one of the herd..

 

 

 

Nothing ego stroking about that.

 

 

 

(BTW, I don't have 86 mining)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Attention is just letting other peole know about you, which no matter what you do, you will.

 

 

 

Attention can happen, whether you wanted it or not, just by the excellence of your work or playstyle.

 

 

 

Just because it happened doesn't mean that you did your work hoping for that end result.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting attention doesn't HAVE to be planned,

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, your overall message appears to be something like "people level for attention"

 

 

 

I think that many players feel that leveling is just what needs to be done to reach your goals.

 

 

 

Um...goals ARE leveling,

 

 

 

Obviously.

 

 

 

But I'm talking about setting, and working towards,

 

 

 

a goal of, say, 85 mining when you have only level 58.

 

 

 

When you reach level 59, you might feel that is not worthy of note since

 

 

 

you still have over 3 million in exp to go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Regardless, you're still getting attention to yourself at reaching a goal.

 

 

 

How?

 

 

 

If the world doesn't know about it then how can you get the attention?

 

 

 

Consider a player that just leveled Strength and a reached postion

 

 

 

number 1,000,001 in the high scores.

 

 

 

If he were hunting in a deserted area then absolutely no-one would

 

 

 

know about his accomplishment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...a small part of you is doing it for attention as well,

 

 

 

Trying to state the motives of other people can be a very slippery thing.

 

 

 

Not everything thinks the same, or has the same goals, as you and I do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For example, I have a hard time trying to understand the motives

 

 

 

of marketplace suicide car bombers in Iraq.

 

 

 

I guess that they think that they are martyrs going straight up to

 

 

 

heaven because of their actions,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

or peple will notice you and your new skill

 

 

 

Not all new skills are obvious.

 

 

 

When you fly fish you can catch Trout (who cares) or Salmon (yeah).

 

 

 

Many other skills are silmilar,

 

 

 

In F2P, full rune can be worn by anyone from Def level 40 to 99.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And again, why would you want to train skill?

 

 

 

To get an 99? Goals? More money?

 

 

 

For the sense of pride and accomplishment in reaching a hard to achieve goal.

 

 

 

Notice, that's not the same as advertising that you reached the goal.

 

 

 

RS is a game that most of us will never "finish"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's like finally understanding an ancient mathematical proof by Euclid.

 

 

 

There is satisfaction in knowing that you did it, even if no-one else knows.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Then you're going to get attention even if you didn't plan it or want it.

 

 

 

True, but the whole premise of this discussion is that people play to deliberately get attention and not all of us play that way.

 

 

 

Most of the time, I play with all chat options turned off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

..., people need attention. Soicalizing is getting attention to yourself, and we know humans can't live and normal life without socializing.

 

 

 

True, but not all of us seek it while we play this game.

 

 

 

Many of us get it in our real life with our friends and families.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But overall, people who say they don't want attention, you're pretty much trying to be an 'outcast',

 

 

 

and thus giving you the attention you somehow didn't want.

 

 

 

Nice closed loop logic there...

 

 

 

But what if the person doesn't advertise their status as an "outcast"?

 

 

 

How do they get this "secretly wanted" unwanted attention?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, it relies on correctly understanding the underlying motives of the player.

 

 

 

Some of us just want the noobs to leave us alone so we can level and train in peace...