Looking for ZMI information for guide

[mario_sunny]

Hi everyone,

 

 

 

I am planning to add a brand new section to my abyss guide. This section will include a complete guide on using the new ZMI altar.

 

 

 

What I need from you right now is information to add to this section. I would appreciate if you had any of this information:

 

 

 

• [*:3l9grhxf]Do you get less higher level runes the lower your runecrafting, and vice versa for high?
   
  [*:3l9grhxf]Please list all the runes you get from 15 minutes of going back and forth to the ZMI altar and your runecrafting level. Please take the short path. Any runecrafting level woudl be helpful.
   
  [*:3l9grhxf]Please list the experience per 15 minutes and your runecrafitng level while using the shorter path. Any runecrafting level would be helpful.
   
  [*:3l9grhxf]Is there any sort of runecrafting requirement?
   
  [*:3l9grhxf]What armor setup have you found to be the best and why?
   
  [*:3l9grhxf]Have you developed any strategy to make the trips go faster?
   
  [*:3l9grhxf]If you have ANY information at all that you think is useful about the ZMI altar please list it.

 

 

 

Staff note: I did not post this in the ZMI discussion topic because this isn't really a dicussion. I did not post it in the guides forum because it really isn't a guide :\. You may move it to a different forum if you think it does not belong here.

[Fredz]

Have you developed any strategy to make the trips go faster?

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, Read my guide here .

 

 

 

Feel free to re-use everything in it for your guide.

[xpx]

i use torags helm, earth staff, sara book, lightness cape and boots, duel ring(just incase, another teleport option), glory(to repair huge pouch when in breaks) and abyss bracelet.(+1 weigh in total with all pouches)

 

 

 

Start the trip at moonclan, fill all pouches and inv with ess(10 law, astral+all pouches in inv) and set of by teleporting to ourania, pray at altar, put range proc and rapid heal on and run to altar. Crafting takes four goes.

 

 

 

Also, it is useless to ask the experiance in 15 minutes, as you already asked what runes you got.

 

 

 

It would take ALOT of time to work out what runes you make in certain amount of time, since you'd have to record every trip(unless you make pictures) and then add the ones you had before starting and the ones you used up with teleporting.

[mario_sunny]

Thanks for the information guys! :)

[tewas]

i'm averaging between 680 and 720 exp per trip. I have lvl 70 rc, with 3 pouches and 41 total ess.

 

 

 

Edit: After some more crafting i managed to squeeze ~24.5k exp per hour.

 

 

 

Also at my level mostly i get laws, nature and deaths. Second group would be bloods and cosmics, then elemental and soul (usually 1-3 per trip)

[SwordKill11]

Nice to see you're gathering some detailed information to be worked into your guide, I'll try to offer some help. :)

 

 

 

Do you get less higher level runes the lower your runecrafting, and vice versa for high?

 

Yes, at level 99 runecrafting, the highest amount of runes I get seems always to be of a high level rune.

 

 

 

Please list all the runes you get from 15 minutes of going back and forth to the ZMI altar and your runecrafting level. Please take the short path. Any runecrafting level would be helpful.

 

From 15 minutes - Using 52 pure essence per trip:

 

Trip 1

 

6 soul

 

4 blood

 

10 death

 

3 nature

 

6 astral

 

3 chaos

 

3 water

 

3 body

 

 

 

Trip 2

 

5 soul

 

5 blood

 

10 death

 

7 nature

 

4 law

 

4 astral

 

2 cosmic

 

3 fire

 

2 mind

 

1 earth

 

2 water

 

 

 

Trip 3

 

7 soul

 

7 blood

 

8 death

 

7 law

 

6 nature

 

2 astral

 

4 chaos

 

6 cosmic

 

4 body

 

1 water

 

 

 

Trip 4

 

5 soul

 

8 blood

 

10 death

 

6 law

 

6 nature

 

5 astral

 

1 chaos

 

1 cosmic

 

2 fire

 

1 earth

 

3 water

 

2 air

 

 

 

Trip 5

 

4 soul

 

7 blood

 

5 death

 

3 law

 

11 nature

 

1 astral

 

3 chaos

 

4 cosmic

 

1 fire

 

1 body

 

1 air

 

 

 

Trip 6

 

2 soul

 

5 blood

 

12 death

 

6 law

 

6 nature

 

5 astral

 

6 chaos

 

2 body

 

3 fire

 

1 earth

 

1 mind

 

 

 

Trip 7

 

6 soul

 

4 blood

 

6 death

 

7 law

 

7 nature

 

8 astral

 

2 chaos

 

5 cosmic

 

1 body

 

2 fire

 

1 mind

 

2 air

 

 

 

Trip 8

 

6 soul

 

7 blood

 

8 death

 

8 law

 

6 nature

 

2 astral

 

4 chaos

 

3 cosmic

 

3 fire

 

3 water

 

 

 

Trip 9

 

3 soul

 

7 blood

 

9 death

 

3 law

 

11 nature

 

8 astral

 

3 chaos

 

1 cosmic

 

1 fire

 

1 body

 

1 earth

 

1 water

 

2 air

 

 

 

Total Soul = 44

 

Total Blood = 54

 

Total Death = 78

 

Total Law = 53

 

Total Nature = 63

 

Total Astral = 41

 

Total Chaos = 30

 

Total Cosmic = 24

 

Total Fire = 15

 

Total Body = 16

 

Total Earth = 6

 

Total Water = 13

 

Total Mind = 3

 

Total Air = 7

 

 

 

(Yes, I know I didn't have to list the runes per trip, but I thought I'd just give you a maximum average for the runes gained by 99 runecraft)

 

 

 

Please list the experience per 15 minutes and your runecrafitng level while using the shorter path. Any runecrafting level would be helpful.

 

~10K per 15 minutes

 

 

 

Is there any sort of runecrafting requirement?

 

Don't think so.

 

 

 

What armor setup have you found to be the best and why?

 

At 85 defense, I use no armor - Instead I wear boots of lightness and an earth staff (along with possibly a cape and ring).

 

 

 

Have you developed any strategy to make the trips go faster?

 

Other than the standard strategy of teleporting to moonclan and back (1.5 minutes), No.

 

 

 

If you have ANY information at all that you think is useful about the ZMI altar please list it.

 

-Entire round trip takes ~45% energy (uncalibrated to the energy gained back while running).

 

 

 

-On your question #2 of this thread, people will need to post how much essence they used per trip and how many trips they made per 15 minutes for your data to be useful.

 

 

 

Personally, I'd be really interested in figuring out some kind of average to the amount of runes per runecraft level. I know its relatively random, but I'm sure there are some patterns to it. ;)

[InkofDeath]

It'd be extremely useful if you were to include a 'low-defence way' as well. I have no idea if its possible though, I'm sort of out on this update at the moment. It would also be a nice addition to the guide, and attract some more users, and set your standard higher. 8-)

 

 

 

I wonder what the mods will do.

[dwarfie76]

I'm using lunar teleports, wearing black d-hide and quest cape. Time is roughly the same as using the abyss. (Especially using all those super energy pots I made). Didn't cost me anything for the teleports as both spells use astral, law and earth runes, I carried an earth staff and the laws and astrals I was getting from crafting outweighed those I spent teleporting.

 

 

 

66 RC Level, getting a solid bunch of Natures, Deaths, with usually two or three bloods and souls. Average XP gained 657.7 per trip - give or take, if I see a zammy crafter I kill them, sometimes that nets an extra 3 pure ess.

 

 

 

Over my ten trips I used up 403 pure ess (including the two lots of 3 from zammy crafters) for 6577 XP, or 16.3XP per rune crafted which is more than a 50% improvement on XP for crafting deaths.

 

 

 

All in all, it looks like a good way to level runecrafting, rather than a good way to RC for profit. And considering that RC is my lowest skill, this is a good update for me.

[reaper88888]

In 15 minutes, i get approx. 135 runes of random amounts of all rune between airs and deaths, excluding combo runes.

 

 

 

In 15 minutes, I get around 2-5k exp, depending on lag, banking speed, ect.

 

 

 

I am level 42 rcing.

 

 

 

Just one last thing: Unless you've got very high defence and good armor, it's simpler to use the long path with boots of lightness, spottier cape, ect., rather than breaking for food every few trips.

[Sy_Accursed]

Setup wise (for 71+ mage with lunar magics):

 

 

 

all weight reducing items you can get.

 

 

 

Then armour that will give you fair melee and mage defence. So ranged or melee/mage mixture plus an earth, mud or lava staff.

 

 

 

Keep all your laws and astrals in inventory.

 

 

 

Put on range prayer.

 

 

 

Walk down short path and hit run as soon as ur in range of the first meleer.

 

 

 

Run right through and turn run off.

 

 

 

Craft runes

 

 

 

Group tele to moonclan (gives 1 more xp and with staff costs no extra runes)

 

 

 

Bank

 

 

 

Tele with the new teleport and walk back to dungeon entrance.

 

 

 

Pray at the alter.

 

 

 

Continue.

 

 

 

 

 

With this method you use 20 pray per run and recharge it, plus you use about 20% run energy whihc refils while you walk.

 

 

 

Takes around 1 minute per run and you take very little damage, only need to eat say 1 monk/lob/shark every 10+ runs depending on defence lvl.

[brainymidget]

Another nice thing is that you lose no astrals or laws and you dont get a huge amount of mage exp but its still a bit if your doing it for a while.