Oxford Scientists "Discover" Parallel Universes.

[Randox]

Not so hard to belive. We alredy move forwards in time (4th dimensional movement), why not go left or right as well? (consider each split a move left or right into another posible timeline). just 5th dimensional travel.

 

That is something completely and utterly unrelated to the topic.

 

 

 

Ah, I think I get it now junkie :-w . Guess I just looked at it from a very bad angle :-k .

 

 

 

What I had posted here made no sense. Watch this video it explains my approch somewhat (how I view dimensions)

 

 

 

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

[Rebdragon]

EDIT: Shoulda quoted -_-. Was responding to randox's post, which before being edited paraphrased the link^ provided and referred to it as Superstring theory.

 

 

 

Okay, I edited my post earlier because I realized you were referring to the fifth one as time and not an additional space dimension, but dear God, that flash has absolutely nothing to do with Superstring theory.

 

 

 

In M-theory, there are hypothesized to be 10 (or 11 for one branch) dimensions. Three large spacial. One large temporal. And six small rapped up Calabi-Yau shaped six dimensional "spheres" (using that very loosely) at all points in the large three dimension. The dimensions described in our universe by String theory have nothing to do the with multiverse timelines in that flash, at all.

 

 

 

Don't reference string theory if you havn't done a drop of research on it -__-".

 

 

 

Anyone, maybe assassin, little help on this? I have trouble believing that this "Ten Dimension" flash is little more than hypothetical bologna (though I did believe it the first time I saw it >_>).

[Nom]

Ok, this thread is just rambling on, but I'm finding it pretty pointless. Here's why.

 

 

 

The universe just split because in a parallel universe, I did not decide to type this post.

 

 

 

According to this theory, what I said was correct. So my tiny decision to type a post on this topic just created a parallel universe. Oh, and so did your decision to read this post. And reply to it or not. So even if this does happen, what significance could it possibly be to us? No one has discovered interdimensional travel. And even if they did, they would have to sift through 10 to the infinite power universes to find a significant difference.

[assassin_696]

That book/flash is almost pure speculation on the part of the author. It's a nice little clean piece of flash if you like that kind of thing, but as for the science behind it, it's largely worthless.

 

 

 

I could write more, but I think this review of the guy's book on Amazon sums it all up pretty well:

 

 

 

I bought the book, because I am a graduate student in string theory and was curious about "new" ways of thinking in ten dimensions. I knew the author of the book was actually a musician (some research with google was required for that), but so is Brian May of Queen, and his book "BANG - THE COMPLETE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE" is very well-written. Well, I couldn't be more wrong. Whereas Brian May studied physics (and is currently doing his long-lost PhD), Bryanton has never touched a scientific article, let alone stood near the mathematics required to grasp them. All his "knowledge" comes from science fiction (which he uses as genuine "references" for his wild ideas), popular science books (Greene, Kaku and Randall) and Scientific American.

 

 

 

Although the book is not intended to be a discription of "real physics", as he points out in the introduction, his ideas on ten dimensions and the alledged connection to string theory and the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics couldn't be stated more explicitely and couldn't be more wrong. The many world interpretation 'assumes' multiple universes in which all possible quantum processes do happen. Bryanton thinks these multiverses are in the dimensions 5 to 10. Moreover, our third spatial dimension is merely the thing "we fold through" to go from one place on a surface to another, which are not directly linked. If he is referring to the holographic principle, he's wrong there as well. Physically and mathematically, what he claims about space and time is absolute bullocks, if I may use the expression. The first chapter is exactly what is shown on his website and the rest is just a filler in which he tries to explain the ideas of quantum observation and its relation to philosophy, poorly. There is absolutely no (scientific) connection to string theory or whatsoever, except that the number 10 and the word dimensions are in the same sentence. The eleven dimensions of M-theory are in his view superfluous.

 

 

 

The book is perhaps intended to be scientifically and philosophically provocative, but in fact it is scientifically incorrect and at most philosophically boring. If you really want to know something about string theory and modern developments on a non-technical level, buy The Elegant Universe or The Fabric of the Cosmos by Brian Greene, Hyperspace or Parallel Universes by Michio Kaku, or Warped Passages by Lisa Randall, and your money will be well-spent. Other ideas on quantum gravity can be found in Lee Smolin's "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity". For the mathematical inclined reader (as Greene would call it in the notes), Penrose's "The Road to Reality" could be interesting, which is a brilliant mathematical expos̮̩̉̉ of theoretical physics.

 

 

 

Moreover, because the author does not fully understand quantum physics, his explanations are even for scientists hard to follow, because they don't seem logical. For non-scientists, I cannot recommend this book either, since I don't think it will help you in any way: you probably won't understand the science and if you do understand what the author says, you understand the wrong thing.

[Rebdragon]

[post+book review]

 

Ah, thank ye :) .

 

 

 

*makes note of all books listed*

[Randox]

I am aware that the movie does not offer a proper (or standard) explanation of the dimensions. But it is a way of visualising them none the less.

 

 

 

I am not fanmiliar with the mechanics of the M-theory. Nor do I claim to understand the math involved in the other super string theories. Just some general concepts. But ya, the movie is an interpratation, and not all the string theories use the same dimensions. Normally 10 or 11, sometimes 26.

[fakeitormakeit]

Ok, show me my alternate universe phyiscally, put me through some kind of vortex and I'll make sure my world domination plans fail in the parallel :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[IGoddessI]

Wow, who peed in Reb's cornflakes this morning lol

[Thrallster]

parallel universes? Nah. Mirrors FTW!

 

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[The Real ET]

I'm not even going to pretend to have any background with this kind of thing, but the theory seems impossible to me. There's only a certain amount of mass in the universe, so where would all the mass for a parallel universe come from? Some could argue black holes, but unless some planets are sucked in, a black hole can't get all the elements needed to complete the periodic table let alone to create a whole new universe. Also, why would something so small and insignificant (like the motorcycle scenario) compared to a universal scenario, create a whole new universe?

 

 

 

There's a certain amount of matter/energy in our universe. A parallel universe wouldn't get it from ours, it would have it's own.

 

 

 

But where would the mass and energy come from if the universe is created at (semi-)random moments?

[warri0r45]

On the face of it, the idea of parallel universes at every possiblility seems too science fiction-esque and hypothetical to me.

 

 

 

I'd have to digest and be able to make sense of all of the mathematics, which for me is almost an outright impossibility, before I can form an informed opinion as to the validity of this theory's claims.

[Kill_Thomas9]

What is with you and the news threads?

 

 

 

Anyway, that article is old. I discovered parallel universes ages ago.

 

 

 

I would enjoy hearing your evidence. Did you happen to walk through a wormhole into some other universe?

[Will H]

I'm not even going to pretend to have any background with this kind of thing, but the theory seems impossible to me. There's only a certain amount of mass in the universe, so where would all the mass for a parallel universe come from? Some could argue black holes, but unless some planets are sucked in, a black hole can't get all the elements needed to complete the periodic table let alone to create a whole new universe. Also, why would something so small and insignificant (like the motorcycle scenario) compared to a universal scenario, create a whole new universe?

 

 

 

There's a certain amount of matter/energy in our universe. A parallel universe wouldn't get it from ours, it would have it's own.

 

 

 

But where would the mass and energy come from if the universe is created at (semi-)random moments?

 

 

 

It's the whole 'Where did everything come from' argument, but with a twist, you infinitely multiply it with each decision and chance.

 

The truth is, nobody knows, and I severely doubt we will ever know. You can be religious, and keep with a belief that cannot be disproven or proven, be neutral, and not care about what happens in blissful ignorance, or be scientific, and attempt a pointless and endless quest which you cannot complete. No matter which path you choose, you will never know any better.