Bind - The Most Useless Spell Ever?

[Saradomin_Mage]

Does anyone in F2P actually use the spell Bind for Pking?

 

 

 

Not on archers ... It's going to splash.

 

Not on mages ... They just fire back.

 

Perhaps on warriors, the intended target?

 

 

 

Let's look at this spell.

 

Bind is a level 20 spell that holds your target in place for 5 seconds, no moving allowed at all. In theory, this would allow you to unleash your better spells on that target in your next attack rounds. Later, the target is immune to a recast for 5 more seconds.

 

 

 

But what is the recast time of any combat spell in the game?

 

 

 

3.25 seconds.

 

 

 

That gives you a miserable 1.75 seconds to cast your next spell. Even if you switched weapons, maybe to a shortbow, you'd still have to wait until the 3.25 seconds expire.

 

 

 

After which, you get one attack in. With your shortbow's reload time of 1.87 seconds, that means you won't even be able to get in a second strike before your target comes for your blood. Recasting a spell means that your target (probably using a scimitar) will get in at least 2 free hits before your third spell is cast.

 

 

 

To illustrate:

 

 

 

You - Cast Bind

 

(Wait 3.25s)

 

You - Combat spell

 

(Wait 1.75s)

 

[unbind]Target - Scimitar attack

 

(Wait 1.50s)

 

You - Combat spell

 

(Wait 1.00s)

 

Target - Scimitar attack

 

(Wait 2.25s)

 

You - Combat spell

 

(Wait 0.25s)

 

Target - Scimitar attack

 

[Rebindable now]

 

(Wait 2.50s)

 

Target - Scimitar attack

 

(Wait 0.75s)

 

You - Cast Bind and run for your frickin' life.

 

 

 

Illustrated as such, you have cast bind to hold your target in place, giving you ample distance and the ability to get ONE free spell on your target. However, overall, you have only cast 3 damaging spells on your target, while he has hit you 4 times with his scimitar! Factor in the time delay when you eat food (adds about 2.50s waiting time until you can attack again), and isn't Bind horrendously useless?

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT: Looking at what everyone has posted so far, I must admit that Bind only becomes very useful in Multicombat situations; You hold your sucker in place and have all your friends launch a barrage of arrows and fire. Ftw.

[123Yourgone]

Bind is useful team or clan pking, when 25 people have 5 seconds to cast an arrow or fireblast.

 

Maybe think outside the solo pking scene before you call a very handy spell useless. :wink:

[Saradomin_Mage]

Bind is useful team or clan pking, when 25 people have 5 seconds to cast an arrow or fireblast.

 

Maybe think outside the solo pking scene before you call a very handy spell useless. :wink:

 

 

 

My bad. But in solo pking, which I'm sure people participate in, isn't the effect quite useless?

[joel_of_cow]

Ya bind is a weird spell it doesnt really give u time to do anything unless like the comment that was just said its used for team.

 

 

 

But bind is great for mage pures bind could give u magic exp and if u have normal armor on and u make ur magic low enough for bind to always splash on purpose u could get magic exp and no hit point exp which is the whole point of pures to lvl up there stat without lvling there combat

[Saradomin_Mage]

Ya bind is a weird spell it doesnt really give u time to do anything unless like the comment that was just said its used for team.

 

 

 

But bind is great for mage pures bind could give u magic exp and if u have normal armor on and u make ur magic low enough for bind to always splash on purpose u could get magic exp and no hit point exp which is the whole point of pures to lvl up there stat without lvling there combat

 

 

 

No one with a sane mind pays 2 nature runes for a 30XP spell when you can get a 1 body rune spell at level 3 which gives 13XP. Plus, I could argue that Low Level Alchemy does the same thing - 31XP for *one* nature rune.

[joel_of_cow]

Well then ive known alot of insane people some pures will do anything to keep there file a pure even if it does cost alot of money

 

but ya u got a point the lvl 3 spell is basically the same stil

 

all the spells that bind or stop an oppenent can be simply replaced by the use of time or aceint magic or 1 of those

[IAm314159]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

[Saradomin_Mage]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

 

 

 

That's not exactly what it was designed for (or at least what Jagex had in mind).

 

 

 

Nonetheless, point taken.

[123Yourgone]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

Stop with the caps, annoying as hell.

[Warrager]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

Stop with the caps, annoying as hell.

 

Spam? He posted 5 words in caps, lol.

 

 

 

On topic, it is useful for multi combat, but for single, it isn't effective at all. Also if your opponent has magic protection prayer, I think that binding time is cut in half. So...

[Bloodredsword]

I agree..."Its a bit weird."

 

 

 

Thats why you just get your mage up and Barrage :P

 

 

 

 

 

But really, I've hardly seen ANY bind pkers out there. Its just not easy enough.

[123Yourgone]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

Stop with the caps, annoying as hell.

 

Spam? He posted 5 words in caps, lol.

 

 

 

On topic, it is useful for multi combat, but for single, it isn't effective at all. Also if your opponent has magic protection prayer, I think that binding time is cut in half. So...

Stop with the mod wannabe posts all i hear nowadays is omg spam omg jagex rule breaker blah blah blah, i been on these forums since the day they opened, if you dont like the way i post, YOU leave.

 

Seriously, worry about your own posts leave the rules up to the moderators.

 

He might have only put 5 words in caps but it still made him look like a prat.

[HOSTiLE_KAi]

That spell pretty much nailed millions of f2p pkers, so no, its super useful.

[tuttle43]

The spell could be used as a method of escape if a player were being pursued. Like you said, fire off the spell and run for your life.

[IAm314159]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

Stop with the caps, annoying as hell.

 

Spam? He posted 5 words in caps, lol.

 

 

 

On topic, it is useful for multi combat, but for single, it isn't effective at all. Also if your opponent has magic protection prayer, I think that binding time is cut in half. So...

Stop with the mod wannabe posts all i hear nowadays is omg spam omg jagex rule breaker blah blah blah, i been on these forums since the day they opened, if you dont like the way i post, YOU leave.

 

Seriously, worry about your own posts leave the rules up to the moderators.

 

He might have only put 5 words in caps but it still made him look like a prat.

 

"Look like a prat"? I was merely emphasising on a certain point.

 

Anyway I apologise if my actions had caused distress or confusion to anyone. -.-

[IAm314159]

I agree..."Its a bit weird."

 

 

 

Thats why you just get your mage up and Barrage :P

 

 

 

 

 

But really, I've hardly seen ANY bind pkers out there. Its just not easy enough.

 

I can't Barrage because for one simple reason.

 

 

 

I'm F2P!

 

 

 

The Bind spell is meant for the F2P community as members have the Snare and Entangle spells. Thus, I believe it's only useful as a method of escaping from those nasty Pkers in F2P.

[IAm314159]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

Stop with the caps, annoying as hell.

 

Spam? He posted 5 words in caps, lol.

 

 

 

On topic, it is useful for multi combat, but for single, it isn't effective at all. Also if your opponent has magic protection prayer, I think that binding time is cut in half. So...

 

Nah, it still has uses in single combat areas, like what I mentioned earlier. When escaping from PKers, turn on Protect from Magic, fire the Bind spell, and run for your life FOR AT LEAST 10 SECONDS before you log off. Remember about the 10 second time limit after combat before you can log off.

 

Warning: Your pursuer may also have the prayer on and might take the opportunity to hit you while you attempt to log off.

[Saradomin_Mage]

That spell pretty much nailed millions of f2p pkers, so no, its super useful.

 

 

 

Care to elaborate on that? This is debate club :P

 

 

 

Well, as from the other posts, it looks like Bind is mainly used to escape from other players. Highly useful in this respect, but if you dredge up some BTS news article from November 2003, you'll see that Jagex totally did not anticipate it being used this way.

 

 

 

The purpose of all 3 spells is to hold your opponent in place giving you time to get some distance between you to cast your other spells.

[Warrager]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

Stop with the caps, annoying as hell.

 

Spam? He posted 5 words in caps, lol.

 

 

 

On topic, it is useful for multi combat, but for single, it isn't effective at all. Also if your opponent has magic protection prayer, I think that binding time is cut in half. So...

Stop with the mod wannabe posts all i hear nowadays is omg spam omg jagex rule breaker blah blah blah, i been on these forums since the day they opened, if you dont like the way i post, YOU leave.

 

Seriously, worry about your own posts leave the rules up to the moderators.

 

He might have only put 5 words in caps but it still made him look like a prat.

 

Give me a break. 4 words in caps means nothing. He's EMPHASISING something. You got it? And NO I'm not a mod wannabe, what's the point? All mods do is get a crown, and the ability to report better. Is that a reason to be a mod? Maybe you should leave along with your attitude to people are just commenting. All I said is that he only posted 5 words in caps, and it's not big deal. Now I've become a mod wannabe? Lol. You could say that to about 5% of the people on these forums if you consider that a modwannabe attitude. So just leave your stupid comments about modwannabes behind, it serves no purpose.

 

EDIT: Now he's probably going to say a bunch of crap about me.

[HOSTiLE_KAi]

That spell pretty much nailed millions of f2p pkers, so no, its super useful.

 

 

 

Care to elaborate on that? This is debate club :P

 

 

For the most part, mages do bind so that others can catch up and melee'em to death. This is especially true when you're warring another clan, someone has to bind a foe to save running energy and do a quick ko. Thus binding significantly lower the chance of the prey's survival- its usefulness.

[IAm314159]

NO.

 

 

 

Especially if you are fleeing from PKers, just Bind and run for your -bleep- life before logging off. It's much cheaper and useful than teleporting.

 

 

 

NO MEANS NO.

Stop with the caps, annoying as hell.

 

Spam? He posted 5 words in caps, lol.

 

 

 

On topic, it is useful for multi combat, but for single, it isn't effective at all. Also if your opponent has magic protection prayer, I think that binding time is cut in half. So...

Stop with the mod wannabe posts all i hear nowadays is omg spam omg jagex rule breaker blah blah blah, i been on these forums since the day they opened, if you dont like the way i post, YOU leave.

 

Seriously, worry about your own posts leave the rules up to the moderators.

 

He might have only put 5 words in caps but it still made him look like a prat.

 

Give me a break. 4 words in caps means nothing. He's EMPHASISING something. You got it? And NO I'm not a mod wannabe, what's the point? All mods do is get a crown, and the ability to report better. Is that a reason to be a mod? Maybe you should leave along with your attitude to people are just commenting. All I said is that he only posted 5 words in caps, and it's not big deal. Now I've become a mod wannabe? Lol. You could say that to about 5% of the people on these forums if you consider that a modwannabe attitude. So just leave your stupid comments about modwannabes behind, it serves no purpose.

 

EDIT: Now he's probably going to say a bunch of crap about me.

 

No, thank you Warrager. You brought out the message I had wanted to bring out. I repeat, I WAS MERELY EMPHASISING.

 

Thank you.

[junkiejeff]

Yes, binding versus an ranged or mage is pretty useless, but bind also has some advantages.

 

Those seconds of time can be enough to flee.

 

Or don't let your opponent flee.

 

Ofcourse it's just are some mere seconds, but in a team it can be pretty effective.

 

And don't forget this is F2P, F2P skills aren't supposed to be complete.

[Owned_Nex]

bind is used in 2 ways

 

 

 

1: to let your team "catch up" to the target, as everyone runs at the same speeds.

 

 

 

2: to run away, as even a 1 square advantage can let you safely log out while running.

 

 

 

Those are the only uses, mainly #1 for piling in clan wars and rune in's

[amitoz]

I think your getting the wrong image on this. Bind for f2p is not used for farcasting, like barrage, it's used for Stopping someone from running away, or from running away yourself. 8-)

[aspokaspofkjsopfkapo]

its a f2p spell that you need 20 magic to cast...is not going to be the best spell in the game