Zombie Plans-Revised

[Wisp]

They don't know where humans are always, but they will wander till they pick up a scent of humans/animals, see one, hear one etc.

 

I don't think we should assume anything about zombies, just prepare for the worst.

 

We're preparing for romero/brooks zombies. That clarification allows us to plan, otherwise we should take into account that they might be able to fly, teleport, and will all be made out of titanium.

[Seraphi]

They don't know where humans are always, but they will wander till they pick up a scent of humans/animals, see one, hear one etc.

 

I don't think we should assume anything about zombies, just prepare for the worst.

 

We're preparing for romero/brooks zombies. That clarification allows us to plan, otherwise we should take into account that they might be able to fly, teleport, and will all be made out of titanium.

 

You forgot extendable tongues.

 

Oh, and laser eyes.

[Kiriyama]

They don't know where humans are always, but they will wander till they pick up a scent of humans/animals, see one, hear one etc.

 

I don't think we should assume anything about zombies, just prepare for the worst.

 

We're preparing for romero/brooks zombies. That clarification allows us to plan, otherwise we should take into account that they might be able to fly, teleport, and will all be made out of titanium.

 

You forgot extendable tongues.

 

Oh, and laser eyes.

 

 

 

What about ripping concrete out of just about anything and throwing it at you?

 

 

 

Or puking on you.

[H2PM]

Just had a thought.

 

When we get bored, we could capture a zombie, stick a firework mortar in its mouth, then see what happens next.

[ember3579]

Here's an idea. Two sets of ditches 2m (~6 ft) wide, 3-4m (9-12 ft) deep spaced out so that the dirt from the holes will be able to make 2 walls, one in between and one on the inside of the ditches. This will take a good while, but we can start the first ditch/wall combination as a hole network and just keep going from there. Obviously, there'd be gates on opposite ends of the area. If possible, an exit only tunnel to escape the base when necessary might be used (cap the outside door in camouflage and make it only openable from the inside. This could take a long time if we want to make it suitable for use, but it's possible.

[Nenga]

Just had a thought.

 

When we get bored, we could capture a zombie, stick a firework mortar in its mouth, then see what happens next.

 

I came up with a remedy for boredom a few pages ago. We crucify Mel Gibson/survivors who don't help. If you want people to obey you need to make examples.

[Hunter360x]

Must zombies be only human? Why can birds or insects be effected by the zombie virus (I'm assuming its an infection). How would we be able to combat this when they can bypass most defences (walls, holes, etc.)? Wouldn't it be better to take the fight to them? After all if you have a problem you can't solve, its best to make it ... disappear.

 

 

 

Hunter

[Kiriyama]

You really know nothing.

 

 

 

Zombies are only interested in human flesh, often, they try to eat as much as they can.

 

 

 

If the person escapes, they then turn into a zombie. Zombies do not stop eating.

 

 

 

They do not like the taste of animals, they prefer humans. Likewise, animals and insects will reject all zombie flesh, meaning they cannot be infected.

 

 

 

Therefore, the reason most people become zombies, is because they did not encounter a group.

[Hunter360x]

Woah dude chill! I was just asking why couldn't birds be affected. But I still stick with fighting them instead of hiding. If you think its a bad idea tell me why not just say that its idiotic.

 

 

 

Hunter

[Kiriyama]

Why?

 

 

 

Tell me, what weaponry do you plan on using?

 

 

 

Where do you plan on defending?

 

 

 

Infact, tell us your whole plan so I can attempt to rip it apart.

[Hunter360x]

You know what I'll just wait till someone else responds. I don't like arguing with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

 

 

Hunter

[Kiriyama]

You're the one that wants to fight zombies...

 

 

 

You want some advice? Run. Stay silent and the zombies won't hear you. Creating too much sound is the biggest threat. Fire a gun, and you may have just as well fired off a load of fireworks with a huge neon sign that says "I'm here! Come eat me!"

 

 

 

Oh, and sir, you are the one attempting to flame, so really, the idiot here is you.

 

 

 

We may have another sacrifice on our hands, guys.

[Hunter360x]

Look mate sorry if I came off as a flamer but in all honesty I was just curious (I'll admit my knowledge of zombies consist of a few movies which I have been told in cc were not 'real' zombies as they involved a curse of some kind and resident evil which was more of an experiment than an authentic zombie) and the first words of the reply I heard from you were "You really know nothing" maybe I mistook the tone for something else or whatever I really just want to but it behind me. So back on topic: Is there anyway to "kill" a zombie? ie. cut off head, burn? And how did zombies first come to be? Is there a theory or such?

 

 

 

Hunter

[Kiriyama]

Well, the zombies we are discussing at the Romero/Brooks kind. The slow, stupid masses of unrelenting hunger.

 

 

 

The disease hijacks the brain, but the body and person is dead. There is only the disease and its need to feed.

 

 

 

To defeat a zombie, you need to destroy the brain. Cutting the head off leaves you with a live head. The blood does not flow, they feel no pain. Of course, this leaves a rotting body to dispose of, by burning.

 

 

 

Try burn a zombie, and now you've got something that wants to give you a hug with fire, that burns everything around it.

 

 

 

That of course, goes for the most realistic zombie. Resident Evil zombies are possible for some part, with the T-Virus being similar to Solanum (I think that's it) however, the Biological weapons, such as Tyrants, are impossible. Same goes for the "modern" zombies, such as seen in 28 Days Later. Well, you can't call them zombies, the Rage virus is essentially an advanced form of rabies.

[Wisp]

Zombie bites kill normal animals, along with animals that try to bite zombies (dogs, crocodiles, the occasional shark I'm sure).

 

Zombies can be killed by destroying the brain. That's the only way. Cutting off the head won't kill it, the head will still be alive.

 

The origin of zombies is unknown, but it's like any other sickness. It probably would mutate from some other disease.

 

Zombies will rot away in 5 years, give or take, depending on your region.

 

Fighting zombies is stupid unless you have a specific, small area you're clearing, unless you have an army.

[Hunter360x]

So other than the need to feed they have no other instincts and have negligible intelligence. But on the other hand they have no pain receptors and near invulnerability. How fast does the infection spread in say a country like USA (densely populated regions)?

[Wisp]

They don't even *need* to feed, they just do. In other words, they could not eat for 5 years and be fine until they rotted. They do have touch receptors, so if you shot one, it would notice, but it wouldn't feel pain. Infection would spread exponentially, I imagine. First people get bitten, and a small area is infected, and it spreads in two ways: zombies moving to new areas, and infected people (after being bitten it takes 24 hours to turn) going to different places. Like a buisness man is bitten at 7am, but doesn't know about zombies yet, he needs to catch his flight to new york, so he can't worry about the crazy person who bit him. He flies to ny, turns the next morning, and infects people there. It would spread very slowly at first, then once there was a sizable amount of zombies, too much for local law enforcment to control, it would spread rapidly, then slow down when, either: There are no more people to infect, or when people start defending themselves actively. People will still be infected, but later on.

 

I would say, unless the army responded early on, it would take a few months to half a year for the virus to infect the majority of a country.

[Seraphi]

They don't even *need* to feed, they just do. In other words, they could not eat for 5 years and be fine until they rotted. They do have touch receptors, so if you shot one, it would notice, but it wouldn't feel pain. Infection would spread exponentially, I imagine. First people get bitten, and a small area is infected, and it spreads in two ways: zombies moving to new areas, and infected people (after being bitten it takes 24 hours to turn) going to different places. Like a buisness man is bitten at 7am, but doesn't know about zombies yet, he needs to catch his flight to new york, so he can't worry about the crazy person who bit him. He flies to ny, turns the next morning, and infects people there. It would spread very slowly at first, then once there was a sizable amount of zombies, too much for local law enforcment to control, it would spread rapidly, then slow down when, either: There are no more people to infect, or when people start defending themselves actively. People will still be infected, but later on.

 

I would say, unless the army responded early on, it would take a few months to half a year for the virus to infect the majority of a country.

 

But of course, the fools don't think the zombie apocalypse would ever happen, so the government would probably just dismiss it and allow it to spread, only reacting when it is too large to control effectivly. This would cause a class 3 or possibly a class 4 outbreak.

 

 

 

That said, it does depend on the population density.

 

If an outbreak happens in Japan, it will spread incredibly fast (Small country, lots of people)

 

However, if it was somewhere like australia, it would take months and months to get a sizable foothold in the population

 

 

 

 

 

Also, Rocco

 

We already decided on the base.

 

Coordinates:

 

latitude is 44°29'33.81"N

 

longitude is 73°12'31.64"W

 

 

 

Its Doom's power plant building and the area around it.

 

Its very suitable.

[deathdrow]

Couldn't we have two three foot wide moats, that are five feet deep, then a wood, with something filling the cracks or solidifying it? and sharpen the tips of the wood?

 

 

 

That would stop the first wave but the next few would just walk on top of the already dead ones, once again this wouldn't stop raiders. Btw are we assuming that zombies have an instinctual knowledge of where live humans are?

 

 

 

Hunter

 

I was thinking a decently wide and deep trench, with dirt piled on the one side, and some forms to acces the trench form the wall, a wall made up of 10-15 foot trees, at an angle of about 15 degrees, so that they'd be much more difficult to climb, and probably prevent raiders from sneaking up on us, we'd notice by the time they'd be over, if they managed to. plus I don't think zombies would be able to climb that.

 

[hide=god awful drawing, not to scale at all.][/hide] you see were happy because we have a wall and a happy house, and the raider is sad, because it's really hard to climb. I'll say it again, not at all to scale.

 

Seems like it'd be a good wall for you all.

 

Now rip my idea apart.

[Seraphi]

Nice triple post :shock:

[deathdrow]

Nice triple post :shock:

 

rofl, two threads got triple posts. win.

 

@rocco: Electric fences are no good, we probably wouldn't have a viable source of power, and if we did we wouldn't want to waste it on something like that. and electric fences wouldn't necessarily stop the zombies, nor would the razor wire, a decent sized horde could come and fill the ditch, and break down the fence. and it would only take two-three zombies to pull down the razor wire into the ditch, or to get caught in it while other zombies walk over. A six foot deep trench would be good, but how wide would it be?

[Wisp]

Planning static defenses against raiders is near impossible. That's something you can't plan for easily, since raiders are people, and people think. Hell, I'd almost prefer it that we make it easier for raiders to get in rather than have complicated defenses. Why?

 

Because let's say a raider has made some kind of explosive. That's not very hard to do. He sees your 25 foot wall, and since he can't climb up it, like he would with a 8 foot wall, he would instead, blow the wall up. Both situations, he gets through, but in the first situation, after you deal with the raider, you have a giant hole in the wall. The only way to defend against raiders is vigilance.

[deathdrow]

Nice triple post :shock:

 

rofl, two threads got triple posts. win.

 

@rocco: Electric fences are no good, we probably wouldn't have a viable source of power, and if we did we wouldn't want to waste it on something like that. and electric fences wouldn't necessarily stop the zombies, nor would the razor wire, a decent sized horde could come and fill the ditch, and break down the fence. and it would only take two-three zombies to pull down the razor wire into the ditch, or to get caught in it while other zombies walk over. A six foot deep trench would be good, but how wide would it be?

 

If a big horde came we'd have guards alerting everyone, and killing the zombies. Everyone keeps saying that the zombies would stack up, but it isn't like we would have them on our doorstep 24/7. If we aren't [developmentally delayed] about it we will be able to properly dispose of the zombie bodies quickly before other zombies come. But I get what you're saying about electric fences.

 

That's a good point, but electric fences are absolutely pointless, unless we're at a power plant, and creating power, that's the only viable situation where we should/could use an electric fence.

 

What about landmines?

[Wisp]

Landmines are designed to mortally wound, not kill. And a zombie with it's legs blown off is worse than one standing up. It would me much easier to not notice, and we walk pass the disabled zombie, and boom, it bites your leg and you're dead.

[Nenga]

Landmines are designed to mortally wound, not kill. And a zombie with it's legs blown off is worse than one standing up. It would me much easier to not notice, and we walk pass the disabled zombie, and boom, it bites your leg and you're dead.

 

No... undead :ohnoes: