Zombie Plans-Revised

[Nenga]

Grab the 5ft Samurai Sword on my wall, and Run.

 

Steal a car, Get down to the huntign shop in a town close to me and grab a few rifles, ammo and a few Scopes.

 

Get down to Tescos and Rob some food (ALOT of Food) Water, energy drinks, Bandages, Paracentamol (Never know when your going to egt a headache ;D) And about 2000 Ciggarettes, and a mini pop up tent.

 

Get onto the tallest buildings roof with everything that was in my car, Put my iPod speakers on with Loud Death Metal and start Sniping...

 

 

 

Or Plan B: Become a zombie.

 

Plan A sucks.

 

Only kill zombies if you need to.

 

Plus, good luck carrying all of that.

 

Or trying to cram it into a car with zombies on the loose.

 

Tell you what, take this gun and shoot yourself now, its more polite than us having to kill a zombified version of yourself later.

 

Make sure you destroy your brain.

 

Seriously, flying solo is not a good idea at all.

 

Generally, kids that happen to have 5 ft samurai swords on their walls have no other option :lol:

 

 

 

i laughed pretty hard when i read that..cause its pretty true :lol:

 

 

 

anyway a sword isnt gonna be your freind in a zombie invasion, weve already established that a few hundred pages ago. but i think the 2000 cigarettes he talked about will kill him before any zombies do.

 

Does lung cancer > Solanum infection?

 

He's just a kid who wants to look cool. A sword as a weapon is better than no weapon but there are better alternatives. Still if you only have a sword to use then go for it.

[Seraphi]

Eh. We already discussed melee weaponry.

 

If there are 1-2 zombies per person, ammo should be conserved.

 

If there are any more than that, use guns.

 

A katana is actually a fairly good choice, although a crowbar is probably better, and a shaolin spade has a lot of advantages.

 

But the ultimate zombie melee weapon is a trench [bleep]e.

[Nenga]

Fine if you have a choice between a sword and your fists and you want to go with them then have fun. I'll be going with the sword.

[Seraphi]

Fine if you have a choice between a sword and your fists and you want to go with them then have fun. I'll be going with the sword.

 

What? I never implied that? I'd choose the sword as well...

[Nenga]

Fine if you have a choice between a sword and your fists and you want to go with them then have fun. I'll be going with the sword.

 

I'm sure the average Tip.Iter is strong enough to force a blade through a zombie's skull...

 

 

 

:roll:

 

I'm sure they are also strong enough to crush a zombie's skull with their bare hands. -.-

[Seraphi]

Fine if you have a choice between a sword and your fists and you want to go with them then have fun. I'll be going with the sword.

 

I'm sure the average Tip.Iter is strong enough to force a blade through a zombie's skull...

 

 

 

:roll:

 

I'm sure they are also strong enough to crush a zombie's skull with their bare hands. -.-

 

Once again. TRENCH [bleep]E.

[3rkid]

Can we create a civilization completely blocked off from the outside world by a very high, thick, and long cement wall?

[PlzPuddngPlz]

If such a horde were, heaven forbid, to exist, chances are that they would be facing a much larger, well-equipped government force rather than one private citizen and his trusty (and let's not forget illegal) flamethrower.

 

*End discussion*

 

Actually, in the US, flamethrowers are legal. Some states have laws restricting possesion of flamethrowers, but 40 states have no laws concerning flamethrowers.

 

 

 

You can sometimes find professionally made flamethrowers being sold by private buyers online, some for as little as $300. Also, if you're unsure on how to use your new device, but you want the source of your advice to be bat**** insane, you could pick up Ragnar Benson's delightful read, Breath Of The Dragon: Homebuilt Flamethrowers, which we can only hope comes with a cellphone with the numbers 9 and 1 already dialed.

 

 

 

I sincerely apologize for quoting an authoritative source on the subject.

 

 

 

 

Once again. TRENCH [bleep]E.

 

That guy has my vote.

[deathdrow]

Can we create a civilization completely blocked off from the outside world by a very high, thick, and long cement wall?

 

your mom is a very high, thick, and long cement wall lolooololololol.

 

 

 

You probably could, if you had a lot of time, but the zombies could make a pile, and just climb up, I think I remember having read that they can do that in the guide, but that's only if there are hundreds and hundreds of them aware you're there. Also, building an extremely high, thick, long would be really difficult, use up a lot of resources, take a long time, and wouldn't be all too easy to do while there are zombies running around, plus it wouldn't be all that stable, weather and whatnot could hit it hard. Plus you'd need to worry about erosion around the base, and cracking in the cement. Not a very plausible plan, but get super building powers and it might be a good idea.

[BlackDawn]

Can we create a civilization completely blocked off from the outside world by a very high, thick, and long cement wall?

 

your mom is a very high, thick, and long cement wall lolooololololol.

 

 

 

You probably could, if you had a lot of time, but the zombies could make a pile, and just climb up, I think I remember having read that they can do that in the guide, but that's only if there are hundreds and hundreds of them aware you're there. Also, building an extremely high, thick, long would be really difficult, use up a lot of resources, take a long time, and wouldn't be all too easy to do while there are zombies running around, plus it wouldn't be all that stable, weather and whatnot could hit it hard. Plus you'd need to worry about erosion around the base, and cracking in the cement. Not a very plausible plan, but get super building powers and it might be a good idea.

 

A wall is actually one of the best defences possible, it's a must have if we ever want a permanent pocket of survivors. The bigger the better in my opinion. Even if they take a long time they are absolutly worth it, no horde could get over a 20ft tall wall of solid concrete, even if they started piling up it would take MONTHS for them to reach that high. In that space of time we can burn the corpses of the already dead zombies too, so basically they can never get over the wall.

 

 

 

Yes, the dangers when building a wall as well as the problem of supplies are valid concerns, but we can defend the builders fairly easily if we arm all non-builders with weapons, which they will already have. We'll find a way to get supplies, if all else fails we can chop down a number of trees and pile the logs on top of one another as a fairly strong wall. Obviously the logs would need to be bound together, plus you'd need two to three layers of logs not counting the height. But it could work.

[walka92]

wouldnt be too hard to stop the zombies piling up, just get a long stick and use it to pry the corpses off the top of the pile as the begind to build up, or as mentioned, burn them. so long as it doesnt take too much fuel to burn them

[deathdrow]

Can we create a civilization completely blocked off from the outside world by a very high, thick, and long cement wall?

 

your mom is a very high, thick, and long cement wall lolooololololol.

 

 

 

You probably could, if you had a lot of time, but the zombies could make a pile, and just climb up, I think I remember having read that they can do that in the guide, but that's only if there are hundreds and hundreds of them aware you're there. Also, building an extremely high, thick, long would be really difficult, use up a lot of resources, take a long time, and wouldn't be all too easy to do while there are zombies running around, plus it wouldn't be all that stable, weather and whatnot could hit it hard. Plus you'd need to worry about erosion around the base, and cracking in the cement. Not a very plausible plan, but get super building powers and it might be a good idea.

 

A wall is actually one of the best defences possible, it's a must have if we ever want a permanent pocket of survivors. The bigger the better in my opinion. Even if they take a long time they are absolutly worth it, no horde could get over a 20ft tall wall of solid concrete, even if they started piling up it would take MONTHS for them to reach that high. In that space of time we can burn the corpses of the already dead zombies too, so basically they can never get over the wall.

 

 

 

Yes, the dangers when building a wall as well as the problem of supplies are valid concerns, but we can defend the builders fairly easily if we arm all non-builders with weapons, which they will already have. We'll find a way to get supplies, if all else fails we can chop down a number of trees and pile the logs on top of one another as a fairly strong wall. Obviously the logs would need to be bound together, plus you'd need two to three layers of logs not counting the height. But it could work.

 

It would take a lot of manpower to build a 20 foot tall concrete wall, especially since we won't have any power at all I'm assuming, nor will there be an abundant supply of gas, so no big machines, and getting that much concrete is a whole different problem. It just doesn't seem plausible to me, but then again it depends on the size of the area you're trying to enclose.

[BlackDawn]

Can we create a civilization completely blocked off from the outside world by a very high, thick, and long cement wall?

 

your mom is a very high, thick, and long cement wall lolooololololol.

 

 

 

You probably could, if you had a lot of time, but the zombies could make a pile, and just climb up, I think I remember having read that they can do that in the guide, but that's only if there are hundreds and hundreds of them aware you're there. Also, building an extremely high, thick, long would be really difficult, use up a lot of resources, take a long time, and wouldn't be all too easy to do while there are zombies running around, plus it wouldn't be all that stable, weather and whatnot could hit it hard. Plus you'd need to worry about erosion around the base, and cracking in the cement. Not a very plausible plan, but get super building powers and it might be a good idea.

 

A wall is actually one of the best defences possible, it's a must have if we ever want a permanent pocket of survivors. The bigger the better in my opinion. Even if they take a long time they are absolutly worth it, no horde could get over a 20ft tall wall of solid concrete, even if they started piling up it would take MONTHS for them to reach that high. In that space of time we can burn the corpses of the already dead zombies too, so basically they can never get over the wall.

 

 

 

Yes, the dangers when building a wall as well as the problem of supplies are valid concerns, but we can defend the builders fairly easily if we arm all non-builders with weapons, which they will already have. We'll find a way to get supplies, if all else fails we can chop down a number of trees and pile the logs on top of one another as a fairly strong wall. Obviously the logs would need to be bound together, plus you'd need two to three layers of logs not counting the height. But it could work.

 

It would take a lot of manpower to build a 20 foot tall concrete wall, especially since we won't have any power at all I'm assuming, nor will there be an abundant supply of gas, so no big machines, and getting that much concrete is a whole different problem. It just doesn't seem plausible to me, but then again it depends on the size of the area you're trying to enclose.

 

Yes, it would take a lot of manpower to build the wall, especially without machinery. Still, even one man can build a wall of that size alone, it just takes time. We'll have all of the TZDF helping out, of course half will have to watch out for the others.

 

 

 

Concrete is going to be a pain to get a hold of, very true, though as I previously said we could always used trees, a few hundred zombies can't punch through tree trunks. We would obviously need to fill in the gaps in between each log as a zombie may try climbing them, they would need to be incredibly smooth. Still, it's possible.

[3rkid]

I've been asking this since 1st grade and never bothered to Wiki it, what's the difference between cement and concrete? :!:

[Seraphi]

Okay, in the case of a wall, we should first create temporary defenses out of wood, razor wire, and other easily obtainable, non permenant materials. After that, divide out the team between builders and guards, and work out a shift system.

 

 

 

Begin construction of a 15/20 foot wall, anything lower is pointless. Make sure the wall is wide enough to support towers leaning against it, and make sure that the top of it is always coated in razor wire.

 

Keep two entrances in the wall, on opposite sides of the main area.

 

 

 

In the case of the TZDF HQ (Doom's power plant thing) There is already a chainlink fence, so we can simply build the wall in sections about 2-3 feet behind the fence.

 

There is enough oil to allow us to burn zombie ramps if they should occur, and plenty of space to create watchtowers.

 

I'm not a builder, so I have no idea how the foundations of a 20 foot wall would work, does anybody have any expertise on that subject?

[Furah]

Okay, in the case of a wall, we should first create temporary defenses out of wood, razor wire, and other easily obtainable, non permenant materials. After that, divide out the team between builders and guards, and work out a shift system.

 

 

 

Begin construction of a 15/20 foot wall, anything lower is pointless. Make sure the wall is wide enough to support towers leaning against it, and make sure that the top of it is always coated in razor wire.

 

Keep two entrances in the wall, on opposite sides of the main area.

 

 

 

In the case of the TZDF HQ (Doom's power plant thing) There is already a chainlink fence, so we can simply build the wall in sections about 2-3 feet behind the fence.

 

There is enough oil to allow us to burn zombie ramps if they should occur, and plenty of space to create watchtowers.

 

I'm not a builder, so I have no idea how the foundations of a 20 foot wall would work, does anybody have any expertise on that subject?

 

You're crazy. The wall wouldn't have to be taller than 5 feet since zombies can't climb. If you aren't a total [developmentally delayed] about it, you burn the bodies every other day to prevent a pile up.

 

Don't forget that others may try and get in, such as raiders, plus a 5 foot wall is tiny, I'm like 5'9 and I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't take long for the zombies to be stacked over the 5 feet. 15 is good.

 

 

 

If such a horde were, heaven forbid, to exist, chances are that they would be facing a much larger, well-equipped government force rather than one private citizen and his trusty (and let's not forget illegal) flamethrower.

 

*End discussion*

 

Actually, in the US, flamethrowers are legal. Some states have laws restricting possesion of flamethrowers, but 40 states have no laws concerning flamethrowers.

 

 

 

You can sometimes find professionally made flamethrowers being sold by private buyers online, some for as little as $300. Also, if you're unsure on how to use your new device, but you want the source of your advice to be bat**** insane, you could pick up Ragnar Benson's delightful read, Breath Of The Dragon: Homebuilt Flamethrowers, which we can only hope comes with a cellphone with the numbers 9 and 1 already dialed.

 

 

 

I sincerely apologize for quoting an authoritative source on the subject.

 

Sorry, I just wanted to point out that they are legal and I remembered Cracked mentioning them so I added that in.

[sithlord_man]

The Problem with the wall is it would take months if not a few years to build...an Idea would be to build a 15 Foot trench around the area the wall would be built on that's at least 10 feet across. If Zombies can make a running jump that is 10 feet, make a 15 foot deep trench, that's 13 feet across. It would provide a good defense and it would supply some dirt to build a small Dirt wall with. And for a little more defense you could likely add a wall after the trench is built so if the Zombies do make it across they just hit the wall and thus fall in.

 

 

 

I'd think it'd work...

[Alexpop11]

wow, wait a sec.

 

Has anyone gone over using a helicopter yet?

 

I just so happen to live next to a helicopter building facility, (where they finish putting them together and test fly them) and using it to get away from the action would be easy. There will always be someone on site who can fly it, lots of fuel on site, and bring up rifles, rations, ect. And whenever we need a restock, land and steal food from where ever we're at, with the other guys covering your back.

 

The helicopters fuel shold last long enough to fly away from the infected areas, and then we could be safe.

[sithlord_man]

wow, wait a sec.

 

Has anyone gone over using a helicopter yet?

 

I just so happen to live next to a helicopter building facility, (where they finish putting them together and test fly them) and using it to get away from the action would be easy. There will always be someone on site who can fly it, lots of fuel on site, and bring up rifles, rations, ect. And whenever we need a restock, land and steal food from where ever we're at, with the other guys covering your back.

 

The helicopters fuel shold last long enough to fly away from the infected areas, and then we could be safe.

 

I hope you know how to fly it then.

 

 

 

No offense, but it wouldn't work if you don't know how to fly. Great idea if you do.

 

 

 

Another thing, what if the person on site is zombified?

[Wisp]

Zombies could climb over a 5 foot wall. I would say an 8-12'foot wall would be sufficient. We're talking about stacking, but the zombies don't stack and pile up intentionally, they just try to climb up onto eachother.

 

Regardless of what the zombie guide says, stacking is not very plausible. Here's an example. I was at a concert a few weeks ago, and the singer threw a marching-band drum into the crowd, and stood up on top of it in the crowd. He was falling down constantly, and people were trying to help him stay up. Zombies would not even notice people were climbing on them, and the ones on top would fall down almost immediately, especially with the zombies on the bottom constantly moving to get closer to the wall. It's just not plausible for zombies to "stack" except for in very, very rare cases.

 

15 foot wall. Someone suggested 10 foot thick. That's ridiculous. To have 1 foot in length of that wall, you'd need 150 cubic feet of cement.

 

 

 

To surround an 100x100' area, you'd need 60,000 cubic feet of cement. I think, I'm exhausted and my math might be off.

 

If you had that built before zombies came, that would cost you a minimum of 1.5 million, minus labor costs. Let's say the wall was 1 foot thick, that would still be 150 grand. And that's only for a 100*100 square area. That's not enough space to grow food to feed even a single person.

 

 

 

In an ideal situation, we would have a 20 foot tall wall (raider protection etc), 20 foot thick, covering a 20 square mile area. Then, a giant citadel in the center, with farmland surrounding it. But we're not going to have an ideal situation.

 

 

 

Also, a chainlink fence is safer than you might think. The real danger is the weight of the zombies uprooting the fence. But with diligent defense, that would not be an issue if there wasn't an enormous horde, and we had enough ammunition. Hell, with spears, we could stab through a chainlink fence. That's actually a good idea now that I think of it. Get some spears, sharpened metal poles, or whatever, and stab through the fence. That would be an easy way to control them.

 

 

 

But yeah, reasonably, you're gonna have to use what you have, where you are. Traveling across the country/world during the apocalypse is illogical. Here's my advice: Think of a easily defensible place in your area, and make a plan off of that. Or find a really out of the way wilderness area that you can get to, that would be able to support you.

[indy500fan]

I stated the last time the chain link fence idea came up that it was the only solution necessary, as long as it is built fairly well zombies won't be able to topple it over. It's much easier to build, and is actually plausible unlike a concrete wall.

 

 

 

Just out of curiosity, how many people here have worked with concrete before? It isn't easy to do manually. The only way to build a wall would be with concrete trucks, which you would have to find at a concrete company, steal and then get back to your base. Then you have one load of concrete, which might be enough to make 5 feet of wall that is 1 foot deep and 10 feet tall (10 feet tall means that 2 feet at least will be below ground level). You would have to have the forms up for the section also, and wait a day for it to set. Then you have to take the forms off, reset them on the next wall section, and get another load of concrete from the concrete company. There will be no one there either, so you have to find a way to power the company so that you can load the mix into the truck, then you have to pump water into it.

 

 

 

Could go on and on about how a concrete wall isn't plausible.

[sithlord_man]

I stated the last time the chain link fence idea came up that it was the only solution necessary, as long as it is built fairly well zombies won't be able to topple it over. It's much easier to build, and is actually plausible unlike a concrete wall.

 

 

 

Just out of curiosity, how many people here have worked with concrete before? It isn't easy to do manually. The only way to build a wall would be with concrete trucks, which you would have to find at a concrete company, steal and then get back to your base. Then you have one load of concrete, which might be enough to make 5 feet of wall that is 1 foot deep and 10 feet tall (10 feet tall means that 2 feet at least will be below ground level). You would have to have the forms up for the section also, and wait a day for it to set. Then you have to take the forms off, reset them on the next wall section, and get another load of concrete from the concrete company. There will be no one there either, so you have to find a way to power the company so that you can load the mix into the truck, then you have to pump water into it.

 

 

 

Could go on and on about how a concrete wall isn't plausible.

 

Chain link Fences wouldn't be to great either...I think they have the basic knowledge of climbing...

 

 

 

(Zombies from Left 4 Dead Climb fences, then again, that's a game...)

[Wisp]

Left for dead zombies can also grab you from over 50 feet with their tongue, jump 25 feet in the air, attract others with vomit, and grab hunks of concrete from the ground no matter what the terrain is. Well, some of them can.

 

 

 

But those aren't zombie, they're infected. And from the guide, 1/3 (or something) of zombies could climb a ladder. But not a wall.

[WolfBoy989]

I've been asking this since 1st grade and never bothered to Wiki it, what's the difference between cement and concrete? :!:

 

Cement is used to make concrete...

[hide=]Zombies could climb over a 5 foot wall. I would say an 8-12'foot wall would be sufficient. We're talking about stacking, but the zombies don't stack and pile up intentionally, they just try to climb up onto eachother.

 

Regardless of what the zombie guide says, stacking is not very plausible. Here's an example. I was at a concert a few weeks ago, and the singer threw a marching-band drum into the crowd, and stood up on top of it in the crowd. He was falling down constantly, and people were trying to help him stay up. Zombies would not even notice people were climbing on them, and the ones on top would fall down almost immediately, especially with the zombies on the bottom constantly moving to get closer to the wall. It's just not plausible for zombies to "stack" except for in very, very rare cases.

 

15 foot wall. Someone suggested 10 foot thick. That's ridiculous. To have 1 foot in length of that wall, you'd need 150 cubic feet of cement.

 

 

 

To surround an 100x100' area, you'd need 60,000 cubic feet of cement. I think, I'm exhausted and my math might be off.

 

If you had that built before zombies came, that would cost you a minimum of 1.5 million, minus labor costs. Let's say the wall was 1 foot thick, that would still be 150 grand. And that's only for a 100*100 square area. That's not enough space to grow food to feed even a single person.

 

 

 

In an ideal situation, we would have a 20 foot tall wall (raider protection etc), 20 foot thick, covering a 20 square mile area. Then, a giant citadel in the center, with farmland surrounding it. But we're not going to have an ideal situation.

 

 

 

Also, a chainlink fence is safer than you might think. The real danger is the weight of the zombies uprooting the fence. But with diligent defense, that would not be an issue if there wasn't an enormous horde, and we had enough ammunition. Hell, with spears, we could stab through a chainlink fence. That's actually a good idea now that I think of it. Get some spears, sharpened metal poles, or whatever, and stab through the fence. That would be an easy way to control them.

 

 

 

But yeah, reasonably, you're gonna have to use what you have, where you are. Traveling across the country/world during the apocalypse is illogical. Here's my advice: Think of a easily defensible place in your area, and make a plan off of that. Or find a really out of the way wilderness area that you can get to, that would be able to support you.

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But then if the spear gets stuck in the zombie's head and u try to pull it out, there's a chance that it might get caught in the fence (at an angle) which might destroy the spearhead while pulling it back through the fence...

[PlzPuddngPlz]

 

I sincerely apologize for quoting an authoritative source on the subject.

 

Sorry, I just wanted to point out that they are legal and I remembered Cracked mentioning them so I added that in.

 

 

 

I saw a good opportunity to be sarcastic. No hard feelings.