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DragnFly, thats kinda what I was saying. I started shortly after runescape came out. Thats around when bluerose was very famous, I remember when she was making me addy sq's, which if you had you were considered incredibly rich.

 

 

 

I was just saying that I have never heard anyone mention any of those names and having played for so long have never heard of those people, so to me they are not really famous, but doesnt mean they are not.

 

 

 

As for legends, all those countless people he listed, thats too many legends I think :\ People I named are the people who I consider important that have had big impact on this game. Like how whitemagem and musashi brought down prices of rune2h from 1.6mil each.

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you consider bluerose a "legend" cause she was the first 99 smith.

 

 

 

Zonghui was the first to get 99 in all base combat skills in classic.

 

Gearshifter was the first to get 99 in all combat skills for 123 combat in classic.

 

TKS first 99 cook and fishing ( I think fishing too )

 

Everdred first 99 Wc , and first ever 99 in any skill on classic

 

 

 

You have The Old Nite on there , yes he was a great player and may he RIP , but as far as your reason for listing him , you may as well list people like L6vi , TKS , Samanthanz , Gearshifter and many others who have tailed Zezima or passed him for a period.

 

 

 

You list Snake Slava for his range , he autoed BOTH names to 99 , many have done it as well.

 

 

 

Musashi - ya one of the first 99 smiths , but so was Iampenguin , Krest , Gormis , Zezima , the fact that Musa dropped prices of an item makes him a legend?

 

 

 

my definition of legends and the reason the names on that list are there is because in some way or another those names had a big impact on the game and made it the game it is. ( or as I am told was )

 

 

 

ps: and my name is in that list of range ( remember list was not made by me ) due to the fact I held one of the highest range lvls for the first few years of the game. And myself and a few others created the range craze in the begining of the game.

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you consider bluerose a "legend" cause she was the first 99 smith.

 

 

 

Zonghui was the first to get 99 in all base combat skills in classic.

 

Gearshifter was the first to get 99 in all combat skills for 123 combat in classic.

 

TKS first 99 cook and fishing ( I think fishing too )

 

Everdred first 99 Wc , and first ever 99 in any skill on classic

 

 

 

You have The Old Nite on there , yes he was a great player and may he RIP , but as far as your reason for listing him , you may as well list people like L6vi , TKS , Samanthanz , Gearshifter and many others who have tailed Zezima or passed him for a period.

 

 

 

You list Snake Slava for his range , he autoed BOTH names to 99 , many have done it as well.

 

 

 

Musashi - ya one of the first 99 smiths , but so was Iampenguin , Krest , Gormis , Zezima , the fact that Musa dropped prices of an item makes him a legend?

 

 

 

my definition of legends and the reason the names on that list are there is because in some way or another those names had a big impact on the game and made it the game it is. ( or as I am told was )

 

 

 

ps: and my name is in that list of range ( remember list was not made by me ) due to the fact I held one of the highest range lvls for the first few years of the game. And myself and a few others created the range craze in the begining of the game.

 

 

 

I consider her a legend because back then being 99 smithing meant more than being 99 in half the skills combined now. Plus it meant you were insainely super rich. Especially once rune items were added. Those people made ridiculous ammount of money.

 

 

 

I know gearshifter because gearshifter was insainely rich. Tks, rings a distant bell, but not sure on that one. I know gearshifter because duke always said that he merchanted to be richer than gearshifter who had 500mil (which back then is like having 50 bil now)

 

 

 

I liked The Old Nite because unlike many he was legit and didnt have a huge head and was ahead of zima. My own personal reasons for liking him, but reason he was famous was for being #1 and legit.

 

 

 

Snake slava and slavik were first and second regardless of how, reason why everyone knew him.

 

 

 

Musa was 99 before others, I think he was #2 or 3, right after bluerose, along with whitemagem. Both of them dropped price of rune2h back then which was huge. I personaly knew him as well becuase he used to smith rune2h's for me.

 

 

 

I consider those people legends and famous not because I heard their name somewhere, but because I knew them all first hand and the impact they have had.

 

 

 

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Zonghui - I remember that name also. After looking at some of those names, first 99's I remember them from back in rsc.

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so your basing fame or legend status on if a player had money ? that is damn funny to me.

 

 

 

I did not say that, im basing it on impact the player had on the game. Someone who single handetly manages to change something on a large scale in the game for example and not someone who can click fastest when pking or who was #1 range that nobody ever heard of, no pun intended.

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again your time frame of the game shows. because someone had money it impacts the game? I think not. Your reasons and I am sure many others would agree are all wrong.

 

 

 

Please explain how The Old Nite has anything to do with money? He was one of my examples. My point was back then 99 smithing was equavalent of godlike, sinse smithing was the best skill, way before dragon items.

 

 

 

Given how long ive played and how ive not heard of many of those legends you named was the basis for my reasoaning. Like I said, I dont know those people from stories, Ive known them all first hand, for whatever reason that they were known.

 

 

 

But if you think being level 87 range makes you a legend, as opposed to single handelty changing price of an item from 1.6mil to 160k back before there was a single dragon weapon, then by all means keep on thinking that.

 

 

 

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Arguing about htis is pointless come to think o fit. You consider certain peopl famous legends, I consider other people famous or legends. Neither of us is right or wrong it just depends on our perspective like I said earlier. My reasoning behind it is the fact that back then skilling wasnt as easy as it is now and $ wasnt as abundant, people worked very hard for their skills back then.

 

 

 

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After reexamining the chart Ive noticed musashi22 was in there and I also noticed ladykilljoy. Also I remember zonghui and how he was leveling prayer, before anyone had 99 prayer it was fun watching people climb up in ranks for that skill :)

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Snake Slavik / Snake Slava - first and second person to hit 99 range. His first account was banned and he hit 99 range for the second time before anybody else could.

 

 

 

 

What so amazing about being the first person to macro range 24/7 ?

 

 

 

 

Duke freedom - one of the richest merchants runescape has ever seen

 

 

Well, he was doing massive real world trading. Why do you want to glorify people who has actively been breaking the rules, and banned for it?

 

 

 

 

 

Also, most of the persons the guy before you listed are true RSC legends. Just because they have been forgotten in the new history of Runescape (post RS2 release). It does not mean that they are Not legends

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as I said The Old Nite was a great person , but in no means does that qualify him as a legend. Because he was in contention for top in skills? as I said L6vi , TKS , SamanthanZ , Gearshifter all were too.

 

 

 

And since you singled my 87 range out as an example. And why that qualified me to be on that list. I was one of the first high lvl range in the game. Ya so what one of the first high lvls big deal right? Myself and about 4-5 other people were the ones who first got people into range in the first place. NOONE really ranged much until people like me , Blix666 , Graffixetet , Broken646 , Freestone ranged lessers on karamja. After that you saw people range everywhere. Back when the server status was out any name listed there for range was pestered for us to go and help people pk.

 

 

 

as far as you never hearing of those players is why I state your showing when you started playing. All the names on that list were the pioneers in thier respective places in RuneScape. Just because you have never heard of them in your obvious sheltered early RS playing , does not make then any less of a legend than they are and demote any credit they are do for what they did for this game.

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Snake Slavik / Snake Slava - first and second person to hit 99 range. His first account was banned and he hit 99 range for the second time before anybody else could.

 

 

 

 

What so amazing about being the first person to macro range 24/7 ?

 

 

 

 

Duke freedom - one of the richest merchants runescape has ever seen

 

 

Well, he was doing massive real world trading. Why do you want to glorify people who has actively been breaking the rules, and banned for it?

 

 

 

 

 

Also, most of the persons the guy before you listed are true RSC legends. Just because they have been forgotten in the new history of Runescape (post RS2 release). It does not mean that they are Not legends

 

 

 

Snake Slavik botting or not doesnt change the fact that it was cool to look at high scores and see snake slava and snake slavik up there alas he was KNOWN

 

 

 

And as for duke, I personally dont like him because of his attitude towards certain things, and I know what he did, but it does not take away from the fact that he has accomplished something you wouldnt be able to in 10 life times alas why he deserves recognition.

 

 

 

Sure, he sold it, but he still earned it.

 

 

 

Oh god, look what you made me do, now im defending duke, lol.

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Dravenstormn, dont make assumptions about me. I too played when server showed everyone who was there, you could kill anyone not standing on grass, and there was 1 or 2 servers, but I, like most other people didnt religiously follow high scores to care who was #1 or #21 in ranged.

 

 

 

You consider yourself a legend? great, you can think anything you want, my point was who would be considered a legend or famous now, not 7 years ago eh?

 

 

 

So dont make assumptions about me because you will be crushed with undeniable logic :)

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Yes. There's quite a few of us in this loop.

 

 

 

[hide=List of friends I KNOW are friends]Bia_Bf

 

Mr S Scope

 

Toast 647

 

Aquashock

 

Screechingmu

 

Gatuz105

 

I S K 1 L I

 

Erk02

 

Biggy0755

 

Campbellmc

 

I Am Phi

 

Hevendor Guy

 

Range Craved

 

Deathslaya16

 

Attackyomom

 

Poddy252

 

Rune User 91

 

Harding

 

Thunda1234

 

Mc

 

Dusty668

 

I R Teh Noes

 

305x

 

Lordfan21

 

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There are dozens more from SODB and GOF. :) We're all from TIF and use #tip-it quite often.

 

 

 

Attackyomom recently joined my clan. :)

 

 

 

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Since Dravenstormn already published one of Kingleonardo's old lists, I figured I would post these as well. Two of the lists that were saved by archive.org.

 

 

 

 

 

Top 200 overall highscores from December 14th, 2001:

 

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Top 200 woodcutters from January 3rd, 2002:

 

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(special note: 176 on Woodcut list ;) )

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DragnFly, I am saying that its not about having highest skills alone, but also having had an impact on the game.

 

 

 

And highscores from 2001 / 2002, most people dont play today. Having read the list somewhere will give you insight on who was who back then, but now adays 99.9% of the people who have no clue who they are.

 

 

 

ps. I knew ashley, she sold me my first x-mas cracker.

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Snake Slavik botting or not doesnt change the fact that it was cool to look at high scores and see snake slava and snake slavik up there alas he was KNOWN

 

 

 

so looking at a name on the highscores was cool? and made you known? well here is a few things for ya.All legit scores I earned myself , without macros.

 

rank #145

 

http://web.archive.org/web/200201080240 ... s-1-0.html

 

rank #45

 

http://web.archive.org/web/200202030935 ... s-0-0.html

 

rank#70

 

http://web.archive.org/web/200202030943 ... s-4-0.html

 

rank#6

 

http://koti.mbnet.fi/hohtava/vanhoi/range.PNG

 

 

 

also RuneScape history sites. here is one of them.

 

http://www.undead-legion.net/clan1.html

 

 

 

 

 

http://koti.mbnet.fi/hohtava/vanhoi/smith.PNG

 

your buddy Musashi #10 , and my oh my look what names are before him

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You consider yourself a legend? great, you can think anything you want, my point was who would be considered a legend or famous now, not 7 years ago eh?

 

 

 

 

 

I guess you and I think of words famous and legend from different perspective. For me someone who is a legend is someone who has done something in this game that people many years later still talk about and someone famous is somebody who is known by everyone.

 

 

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/legend

 

1. a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical.

 

6. a collection of stories about an admirable person.

 

 

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/famous

 

1. having a widespread reputation, usually of a favorable nature; renowned; celebrated: a famous writer.

 

 

 

I was going by those 2 meanings and my own personal experience + all the conversations about legendary / famous people that ive had with people throughout my time of playing runescape.

 

 

 

by your defintions in a previous post who is famous now or a legend now matters not. And as far as impacting the game. Hmm lets see , I refer you to my previous post and also the fact I created one of the most dominant clans in RuneScape. Nah no impact there. :roll: :roll: hit me with your "undeniable logic" please. Because it seems here people are imforming you that your wrong in your train of thought.

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Snake Slavik botting or not doesnt change the fact that it was cool to look at high scores and see snake slava and snake slavik up there alas he was KNOWN

 

 

 

so looking at a name on the highscores was cool? and made you known? well here is a few things for ya.All legit scores I earned myself , without macros.

 

rank #145

 

http://web.archive.org/web/200201080240 ... s-1-0.html

 

rank #45

 

http://web.archive.org/web/200202030935 ... s-0-0.html

 

rank#70

 

http://web.archive.org/web/200202030943 ... s-4-0.html

 

rank#6

 

http://koti.mbnet.fi/hohtava/vanhoi/range.PNG

 

 

 

also RuneScape history sites. here is one of them.

 

http://www.undead-legion.net/clan1.html

 

 

 

 

 

http://koti.mbnet.fi/hohtava/vanhoi/smith.PNG

 

your buddy Musashi #10 , and my oh my look what names are before him

 

 

 

Haha, being those ranks makes you as famous as me for having 12 addy sq's and addy chest plates back when only bluerose13x could make them.

 

 

 

Look whose #1, her because she was first smith and then musashi beat everyone to 99 btw.

 

 

 

Those highscore printouts do not make you famous, becuase lets face it, if you were famous more than just your friends would know you.

 

 

 

Out of millions of players who play RS now, nobody cares about who was #382 in highscore checking in 2002, im sorry its a fact.

 

 

 

What counts is NOW and NOW different people are considered famous and as for legendary, bluerose13x is legendary, the old nite is legendary, you know, people who were known but are no longer here.

 

 

 

As for you, you may think that you are, and few others may as well, but trust me, you are no famous than the next guy in line.

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by your defintions in a previous post who is famous now or a legend now matters not. And as far as impacting the game. Hmm lets see ' date=' I refer you to my previous post and also the fact I created one of the most dominant clans in RuneScape. Nah no impact there.

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Snake Slavik botting or not doesnt change the fact that it was cool to look at high scores and see snake slava and snake slavik up there alas he was KNOWN

 

 

 

But according to you , Snake was a legend cause he was on highscores and because of that he was "known" ... guess your beating your own dead horse there huh ?

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Its easy to see if you are famous, count up how many people know you, if its less tahn about 10000 you are not :)

 

 

 

go ahead and check that out , guarentee a hell of alot more people know me , know of me than you. and 10k people , don't know bout that many , but I am sure a hell of alot do.

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me and my friend have always been very close, and back eachother up when we need it.

 

 

 

it's really important to have that one person who you stick with as well, it make the game so much more enjoyable.

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DragnFly, I am saying that its not about having highest skills alone, but also having had an impact on the game.

 

 

 

And highscores from 2001 / 2002, most people dont play today. Having read the list somewhere will give you insight on who was who back then, but now adays 99.9% of the people who have no clue who they are.

 

 

 

ps. I knew ashley, she sold me my first x-mas cracker.

 

 

 

First off, I posted them just because I figured people would want to see them, not necessarily directed at you. Keep in mind the thread was about past players.

 

 

 

But since you commented, I do not see what them not playing today has to do with it? Alot of people have come and gone over the years, I do not think it diminshes their impact one bit. Just because you hear more people talk about Paris Hilton today than John Adams (2nd US president), does that somehow make her more important?

 

 

 

I would say it is a fairly accurate list of people who were well known at the time, and/or had an impact on the game.

 

 

 

However yes, appearing on a highscores does not necessarily make you a legend. Heck I appeared on the highscores, one I even posted, but I am just a player like any other.

 

 

 

But one point I will agree on, Musashi always was a nice guy. Atleast always was to me, whenever I bumped into him.

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