Who will you be voting for?

[Bubsa]

 

Might wanna edit your topic title to mentioned which elections :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Liberal Democrats all the way :) Even pursuaded both my parents :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I promised id vote Liberal when i shook hands with Charles Kennedy on Monday so i suppose id better not break a promise ^_^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pah! I thought civil servants were meant to remain anonymous!

 

 

 

I'll be voting (if I could) for ne'er of them. I'd have voted Labour but the sight of Tony Blair makes me want to vomit..violently.

[Herr]

The only thing I have to say is

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*cough* Millenium dome

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for people who earn more getting 50% off private healthcare - they pay more tax anyway. Before my dad gets any of the money he's earned, 40% goes straight to the government, so I'd be pleased to see him get money off private healthcare above someone who pays less tax.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some say the tories are a 'rich get richer, poor get poorer' party. My family does well enough, so why shouldn't I vote to keep it that way?

[Mercifull]

No i dont have to be anonymous, theres are prohibitations put on some things we can do as a local council but none of them really affect people personally. Like we cant put out any publication that might favour the current party in our constituency until the 6th. We have this 3 week thing where we cant be seen to favour a specific party before the election, but after that it all goes back to normal. I can openely say "I support david heath" but i couldnt produce a leaflet for the public that favoured him over Clive Allen for example. However i CAN publish it on the 6th may. its all a bit confusing lol

[Bmw]

No clue what election you guys are talking about, but I'd go with the conservatives. Matt, you say you're voting liberals because you made a promise to some guy to vote for em? When was the last time the liberals kept their promise to you? So why shouldn't you do the same :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go Conservatives! :P

[Eeeeediot]

Voted Lib Dems this morning at 10:30 am :D

[Mercifull]

No clue what election you guys are talking about, but I'd go with the conservatives. Matt, you say you're voting liberals because you made a promise to some guy to vote for em? When was the last time the liberals kept their promise to you? So why shouldn't you do the same :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go Conservatives! :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im not voting Liberal purely because i promised i would. I'm voting Liberal because unless i do the tories win and that will be a disaster for so many people. Conservative voters have this mind set that "im alright jack" and dont think about how other people will be affected. With a Conservatives the middle classes and richer people are well off but at the expense of people struggling to live such as lower and working class families and young couples.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You have to think about how the entire country will benefit from the government policies and both Labour and Liberals are the only ones to have addressed this. The Conservatives will be a disaster for so many many people in this country. If you voted for the tories then I demand that you get a job in the public sector and see how well you can do the job when they take away all our budget and admin staff. :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All Tories do is sell off assets and take money away, they never reinvest in our public services. The Tories failed to tackle MRSA while in office and offer no credible policies today. Their only idea on tackling MRSA seems to be to shut wards, yet this approach has been slammed by nurses and doctors. The biggest growth of MRSA also took place under the Tories. Labour's "New Deal for Jobs", which was stongly opposed by the Conservatives, has helped well over a million into jobs, including over 500,000 young people and the number of 18 to24 year olds claiming dole money for more than a year has fallen by 92% since 1997

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You might not agree with the iraq war and you might not agree with the way immigration works right now but seriously, for the entire countries good not just for yourself, make the right choice today and don't put a cross in the blue box

[Mayjest]

I'm off to the polling booths after this, to vote Lib Dems or Labour. Never conservatives. Never every ever conservatives. There is so much wrong with their policies it's funny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to those planning on BNP? You read their manifesto, or just protest vote? Their manifesto is: Close all borders. Full stop. Call up the entire army, stick them on the south coast to keep out immigrants. Force every family in the country to buy an assault rifle (seriously), don't force them to know how to use it, and allow anyone who looks vaguely like an immigrant to be shot on sight. And second or third generation immigrants (born in this country, but have parents or grandparents that weren't) will be 'politely' asked to leave. Translation - anyone not a WASP (white anglo-saxon Protestant), leaves the country or gets shot. The British Nazi Party are worse than the KKK and Hitler combined.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(N.B. Yes I know the BNP actually means British National Party, but in my opinion Nationalism = Nazism, they're as bad as each other)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, my vote. I would vote Labour simply because of their policy on Poverty (Britain is in charge of the G8 this year, Labour will force Africa, Poverty and Climate onto the agenda. The Conservatives will try and work on getting out of Europe. Which is gonna be more productive?). Note, that if Blair goes to war for no reason again, then Labour will lose my vote permanently. At least until Bush or Blair is out of power. (I reckon we only went to war because someone had to control Bush. Could you imagine the mess Basra would be in if the Americans were there alone? Basra had about 3 times as many insurgents as Fallujah, and Fallujah is in a right state by itself)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So it looks like I'm gonna vote Lib Dems, simply because it will hopefully knock the conservatives out of power in my area. Plus, the 50% tax above 100k sounds good to me (note, you only get charged 50% on money over 100k. If you earn 150k, then 100k is taxed at the earlier percentage (40%ish) and 50k is charged at 50%. Leaving you with 85k, at least. Which is still more than 5 times the average wage in England).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So yeah, looks like I'm off to the library to vote for Liberal Democrats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't vote conservatives! They won't just ruin our country, they'll ruin Europe, and destroy any change of reducing AIDS or world poverty.

[Phil]

Well the Europe issue is quite important, so that's one of the reasons I'm voting Conservative.

[Mayjest]

No matter how much the conservatives or UKIP will tell you, we cannot pull out of Europe. The financial consequances would break our country. Sure we get some 'beurocracy' from Brussels (which I don't have a problem with, a Human Right's Court is always a good thing), and we get some dodgy trade deals, but for every deal not in our favour there are three in our favour. Britain is the 4th largest economy in the world (largely thanks to Brown, not Thatcher), and Europe will do whatever they can to keep us in the Union. So staying in will be far more benifical than pulling out.

[Bubsa]

No matter how much the conservatives or UKIP will tell you, we cannot pull out of Europe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Remind me which part of the Conservative manifesto mentions withdrawal from Europle :?

 

 

 

In today's day and age, it's not so much which society of capitalism we want to live in, it's who will manage the society we have now in a better way. It's not like ye olde days of the '60s where you had a clear definition of left/right wing, pro/con europe etc.

 

 

 

I think for a lot of people they have lost faith in Labour because of Bliar. (pun intended) But who do they go to? A party of inadequacy in the Cons, who elected a 10th rate politician who talked as well as Objob prior to Howard (IDS), or the Lib Dems, the friendly, happy party we all humour and don't take seriously because no one, not even themselves, no what their policies and numbers are based on, and can always find a way to proclaim: "We were robbed".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and remember leaders, particularly you Bliar, this is PARLIAMENTARY, not presidential, democracy. So I want a cabinet and civil servants like our Matt here to help you with our country, not your filaunderers and vultures of spin and vile corruption!

[Antrune]

I would vote conservative if I was old enough (15 now). I may vote for BNP if there was a candidate in my area. The UK needs a detox of immigrants.

[entangle]

Labour. We don't need immigrants. If you don't offer anything then your not coming in. Howard doesnt have a clue what he's on about, his ideas are plain out lame, NHS for one.

[Evil_Elf]

I'd probably vote Labour, not that I have any idea what that means other than blocking immigrants :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The BNP...I think that maybe Mayjest is exaggerating just a little bit. "The British 'Nazi' Party are worse than the KKK and Hitler combined." Yeah because the BNP bombs London nonstop every night, correct? Among other things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS: What is Blair? Because he won. According to exit polls anyway

[Mercifull]

I would vote conservative if I was old enough (15 now). I may vote for BNP if there was a candidate in my area. The UK needs a detox of immigrants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A detox of immigrants... you are really naive mate. :roll: Have you any idea where the majority of our doctors come from? I suggest you read up on real politics not just whats in the daily mail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LAB 353

 

 

 

CON 195

 

 

 

LD 59

 

 

 

619 of 646 seats declared

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well done Mr Blair

[cluck]

Tony Blair win again. :?

[Eeeeediot]

 

I would vote conservative if I was old enough (15 now). I may vote for BNP if there was a candidate in my area. The UK needs a detox of immigrants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A detox of immigrants... you are really naive mate. :roll: Have you any idea where the majority of our doctors come from? I suggest you read up on real politics not just whats in the daily mail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said. As for my constituency :

 

 

 

Labour  	          41.8%



Conservative 	          27.9%



Liberal Democrat 	25.2%







Swing: 7.5% from LAB to CON

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why did I bother voting at all lol. We seriously need to get rid of this First past the post system and use PR voting, thats Proportional Representation where every vote counts. Just like they did in the Iraqi elections in January where I voted :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as for Galloway in East London... so opportunistic. He'll be out in the next election no doubt.

[Fat_Slug]

personally i grew up when cons was in power. i can remember my mum working over 40 hours a week just to try and survive.i would never vote tory- a vote for them means less money for lower wage families( as i am)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

at this time, hubby can work 20 hours a week and we still can survive to pay the bills due to the wftc and ctc.thats what labour bought for us. prolly the only good thing they did tbh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

personally i don't want to go to how i can remember my mum being just to pay the bills.

 

 

 

i didn't vote for labour either purely for what they did with all the problems with sudam etc.

 

 

 

i didn't approve of what they did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i voted lib dem for the simple reason its was the lesser evils of the 3 parties. they all stunk tbh, and none of them deserved to be voted in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i can only hope labour can do a better job of a messed up country, and not allow it to become the state it was in under the tories.

[Phil]

And as for Galloway in East London... so opportunistic. He'll be out in the next election no doubt.

 

 

 

The 'experts' said he wouldn't get in in this election :?

 

 

 

One person I really despise is George Galloway. I can't believe he won so many peoples votes.

[dusqi]

I find the spread of votes across the country interesting. Forgive me if I get the exact figures wrong, I am remembering it from the t.v.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

36% of people voted for Labour

 

 

 

33% of people voted for the Conservatives

 

 

 

22% of people voted for the Liberal Democrats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It seems rather stupid to me that with those figures, Labour has 55% of the seats, Conservatives 30% and Liberals 10%. It was like when George Bush won the American election with less votes than the democrat candidate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beyond that though, the Liberal Democrats picked up an extra 10 seats, so I think that's a success for them :D Next time if they can pick up even more, then it is quite possible that there would be a hung parliament, and that means that the liberal democrats are the deciding party :D So then they really would be the 'real alternative' :D

[entangle]

Bush is right though, we will look back on what he did and see that it was the best choice in the long run. Sure miracles arent going to happen over night and a few years it's going to take, but it'll all be sorted in the end.

[cjlhdevil]

Bush is right though, we will look back on what he did and see that it was the best choice in the long run. Sure miracles arent going to happen over night and a few years it's going to take, but it'll all be sorted in the end.

You're right that's really going to reassure a mother of lost their child in a bombing. "Oh thank lord my child is dead but the americans think it was best for them in the long run!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you really think that Saddam would have started producing Warheads with just about every single country with a powerful army in the world be riding his back about it? No he would have known that one mistake would have ment war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really find it hard to believe how British AND American people can reelect someone that lied to the country in easily the most serious matter of current times.

[Mayjest]

 

Bush is right though, we will look back on what he did and see that it was the best choice in the long run. Sure miracles arent going to happen over night and a few years it's going to take, but it'll all be sorted in the end.

You're right that's really going to reassure a mother of lost their child in a bombing. "Oh thank lord my child is dead but the americans think it was best for them in the long run!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you really think that Saddam would have started producing Warheads with just about every single country with a powerful army in the world be riding his back about it? No he would have known that one mistake would have ment war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really find it hard to believe how British AND American people can reelect someone that lied to the country in easily the most serious matter of current times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because it was either that or re-elect someone who openly admitted that he would have gone to war even if there was proof that we would never find WMDs before hand!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As to what was said before:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The cons want to get rid of illegal immigrants. People who come to work in England because they get paid more here than at home.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The BNP want rid of all immigrants. That includes all the doctors and nurses that allow the NHS to function. Voting in the British Nazi Party would not do anyone any favours - when the nationalist leader's children start dying because there arn't enough doctors and nurses, they might realise that they made a mistake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

UKIP want out of Europe completely, which would ruin our economy, especially anything involved in import/export.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cons want to 'freeze' Europe where it is, don't go further in, but don't pull out. This wouldn't work either, as the constitution will happen eventually, and there is nothing they can do about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest, I'm glad Blair got back in. The potential of a Labour government in charge of G8 is historic, we could see a solution to AIDs within the year, and a halving of poverty worldwide in 10. We could see pollution reduced, and a decent world provided for our children (and as most people here are children, that means you lot).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, he shouldn't have gone to war, but his reduced majority means that, no matter how much Bush begs, he will never do it again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with what was said earlier, this is a parliamentary democracy, not a presedential one. We saw far too much of the leaders, and barely any of the rest of the cabinet. I have no idea who is in the shadow cabinet, except that I wouldn't trust the Shadow Chancellor as far as I could throw him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and back to Entangle's quote. Yeah, maybe we will be seen as doing the right thing. We 'provided' a country with democracy. Or, forced a system which doesn't sit favourably with their religion upon them. But what history sees is not important. It is well known that History is written by the victors. History would forgive Bush for staging an all out assault upon China tomorrow, because ultimately, Bush and his supporters would be the only ones left, protected in their concrete bunkers. And as they would write the history, history would forgive them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Never trust the line 'History will forgive us'. Any history written by anyone in the Middle East will never forgive us, nor the Americans. Because we went to war with neither authorisation, nor a due cause. And frankly, for that, we deserve everything they throw at us.

[Bubsa]

I find the spread of votes across the country interesting. Forgive me if I get the exact figures wrong, I am remembering it from the t.v.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

36% of people voted for Labour

 

 

 

33% of people voted for the Conservatives

 

 

 

22% of people voted for the Liberal Democrats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It seems rather stupid to me that with those figures, Labour has 55% of the seats, Conservatives 30% and Liberals 10%. It was like when George Bush won the American election with less votes than the democrat candidate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The UK is the only democracy IN EUROPE to use the First-Past-The-Post system for its elections. Everyone else uses Proportional representation. Ok, FPTP will mainly leave you with a clear majority and no shady coalition government, however, it makes you wonder when Labour won the '97 election and ordered an inquiry into alternative electoral systems, were they ever going to abandon a system that rewarded them with a massive landslide?

 

 

 

Being in power is one thing, out of it is quite another. As for the result, probably the best party one. Probably..I hope..