Morality of "adblocking"

[Rizla]

Im sure I personally dont raise $20 a year in adverts but i would with the privalidge system. Its something that should be seriously considered by the staff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure i raise absolutely nothing in advert clicks. I'm also sure people would be much more willing to pay fo avatars/signatures/user texts if it meant no more of those damn flash adverts.

[Pete_the_Viscous]

Repetition alert

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't mind ads that don't draw my attention away from things. Of course, an ad that doesn't draw attention isn't a very good advert, is it? On the other hand, the way that most ads these days try to draw attention makes them just as bad, as it puts so many people off what they're advertising.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm using firefox, and I don't pay any attention whatsoever to adverts; I let it block what it wants, and don't pay any heed to the ones that occasionally show up. I block the odd one or two deliberately, but only those ones that are annoying, hence pointless anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morality... If the place from which one is receiving a service for free decides to advertise, then I think it only fair that, if one continue to reveive that service, one not complain about the advertising. However, if the advertising is so annoying as to render the service unwanted, it's the provider's own fault if people block them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...all that said, I quite like some adverts--not the annoying types--but, ridiculous as it sounds, I think that some of them look quite nice. Though I'm all for minimalism in some aspects of life, as long as it doesn't noticeably affect the loading time of what I'm viewing, I don't need it on my browser... if I did, I'd just buy a smaller monitor and be done with it.

[grin_king]

Morality... If the place from which one is receiving a service for free decides to advertise, then I think it only fair that, if one continue to reveive that service, one not complain about the advertising. However, if the advertising is so annoying as to render the service unwanted, it's the provider's own fault if people block them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You got it :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, for what it's worth, we ARE looking into the ad situation, and have been for some time, with a number of alternatives being considered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the mean-time, I just block the ads that annoy me, and block the companies that try to trojan me... works quite nicely...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for those of you that block ALL ads... might wanna consider just how much it takes to run 2 servers - with the forum server getting an average of around 13k unique visits per day. And I can tell you - the website server receives a lot more than that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways - as I said, we *are* looking into alternatives... not sure how much difference it will mae, considering the number of people out there that just indiscriminately block ALL ads, regardless... but as we keep saying, we do what we can to keep you guys safe... we tried blocking individual ads - but not enough people were reporting them correctly... no details = no blocking by us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways... guess you'll just have to wait and see what we come up with...

[DaN]

 

 

 

how in the hell is it stealing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Firstly Id like you to show me where I supported popups.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Secondly I notice your using hotmail and msn.

 

 

 

Id like to ask how you paid for those services?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

email such as hotmail is acually a marketing tool to bring people back to their website wich means more ad-impressions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Freehosting services survive on revenu gained from ads that are served in exchange for the service they provide. If you are cutting off the revenu these services are getting nothing in exchange for there service.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

should be ashammed they only care about their pocket and not others

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kinda ironic coming from you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ever wonder why hotmail started charging for pop access? its because no advert revenu is gained if people use email clients instead of visiting the website.

[devilheart14]

 

 

 

 

how in the hell is it stealing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Firstly Id like you to show me where I supported popups.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Secondly I notice your using hotmail and msn.

 

 

 

Id like to ask how you paid for those services?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

email such as hotmail is acually a marketing tool to bring people back to their website wich means more ad-impressions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Freehosting services survive on revenu gained from ads that are served in exchange for the service they provide. If you are cutting off the revenu these services are getting nothing in exchange for there service.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

should be ashammed they only care about their pocket and not others

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kinda ironic coming from you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ever wonder why hotmail started charging for pop access? its because no advert revenu is gained if people use email clients instead of visiting the website.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

firstly hotmail and msn have alot of advertising but most of it is just at the top which is ok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Msn is owned by ninemsn which is channel 9 and they both have lots of advertisments and have you ever looked at the profit it make p.a.???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what if i use msn and hotmail they are profiting from it from adds but as long as the adds arnt atrusive and irrataing incl. downloading stuff onto my comp they are fine!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i didnt say no adds at all just none that are obtrusive and make heaps of pop ups and are irratating!

[Arcticrunite]

i guarentee you that less than 5% of the users on this forum would pay for avatars and signatures, while it is a good moneymaking plan, the cost of it would drive users down because of it

[Mercifull]

i guarentee you that less than 5% of the users on this forum would pay for avatars and signatures, while it is a good moneymaking plan, the cost of it would drive users down because of it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

possibly but then over 80% of the ppl signed up to this forum have less than 10 posts so arnt taking up hardly and bandwidth anyway. 5% of the active users could be in the range of 400 people. if 100 ppl buy an avatar and 300 ppl buy an avatar and sig then tipit could have over $6500. Which would certainly help pay hosting costs. I fail to see how it would drivers users away. $5 for an avatar is pennies thats about ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã2.64 in england. You cant even get a pint of beer for that in same places. For an entire YEAR.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont know how much tipit actually makes from advert revenue but even at half those stats tipit having $3250 would mean less horrible adverts for us all.

[Lime_Mercury]

A friend of mine showed me this post, quite likely I wouldn't have read it otherwise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally, I feel it depends on the amount of obligation a user feels towards his sites of service. I have been around the net for a very long time (but clearly not as familiar with its intricacies as a number of you), and seen clearly misleading, intrusive, annoying, and dangerous adverts. I use IE (gasp), and will only block adverts that try to run ActiveX controls without my permission.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most popups I will give a cursory glance, and then close. I will not often mute commercials that I see on television, and instead let the marketers have their 7-10 minutes out of my 30. I don't have a huge problem with adverts, as I know I am a consumer with some income that interests some company out there. It's all the better if we can help each other.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dislike adverts with sound like the fly swatting one, as I often have more than one browser window open, and the sound will continue to play even with the other window displayed. If I don't believe an advert's claim to be useful (Free Lingerie!) or genuine (CLICK THIS TRUCK AND GET A FREE XBOX), of what use is it to me to continue looking at it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My computer is more than a tool for displaying advertisements and providing entertainment. If an advertisement company respects that, I have no problem letting them show me their wares along the way.

[____]

Arcticrunite: You could always pay the 5.50 per month over at offtopic.com just for basic forum functionality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 Bucks a year is DIRT CHEAP. Hell, most people already pay 5 bucks a month to play runescape. What's an extra 41 cents per month going to matter :-?

[devilheart14]

Arcticrunite: You could always pay the 5.50 per month over at offtopic.com just for basic forum functionality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 Bucks a year is DIRT CHEAP. Hell, most people already pay 5 bucks a month to play runescape. What's an extra 41 cents per month going to matter :-?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i no what u mean but i dont know whether id pay to have a lil pic on a site sure i wanna help the site but id rather click on a cupple of site rather then pay to just have a pic up

[Evil_Elf]

I can't believe that someone would actually care about the "morality" of adblocking, thats crazy

[jesselt]

It's either: Protect your self against adds that look like they are going to expload... or...

 

 

 

Risk having your spywear come up with 4059823 adds ever 3 seconds... :?

[spling]

I can't believe that someone would actually care about the "morality" of adblocking, thats crazy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, who'd have though that this strange thing called "morality" still existed in today's society. :roll:

[Lime_Mercury]

 

I can't believe that someone would actually care about the "morality" of adblocking, thats crazy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, who'd have though that this strange thing called "morality" still existed in today's society. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Morality (the right or wrongness of an action) is determined by one's code of ethics. There are a fair number of ethical systems *cough* Machiavellianism *cough* that would agree that blocking ads is what one *ought* to do, i.e. a "right" act.

[andyrules89]

I dont block ads i just block the image...and I luv the flashblock and nukethis extension for firefox. The ad's still there I just dont see them.

[Vape]

I'm not sure paying for sigs/avatars/other features would be a suitible substitute for advertising, because most of the users are only in their early teens, and as such don't have access to credit cards etc. (except their parents'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess another possibility would be a paid version of tip.it with no ads :-? Cookies/login.

[Mercifull]

I'm not sure paying for sigs/avatars/other features would be a suitible substitute for advertising, because most of the users are only in their early teens, and as such don't have access to credit cards etc. (except their parents'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess another possibility would be a paid version of tip.it with no ads :-? Cookies/login.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet thousands of people on this forum pay $5 a month for runescape ^_^

[Evil_Elf]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yet thousands of people on this forum pay $5 a month for runescape ^_^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Their parents can probably understand paying $5 for a game, but not for a 60x60 (or whatever) picture on a forum

[ice_ring]

On my 28k connection I block EVERYTHING, if it slows down a page it is blocked, I have half the sigs on this forum that i dont like blocked, but I think if I had DSL or cable I'd let the non intrusive ads stay.