May 8, 200521 yr I have been noticing more and more, older folks are not such good drivers. On elderly gentelman backed threw my grandma's garage actual pic of incident http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos ... d571.shtml I just found out today, my other grandmother rear ended someone. I see wrecks all the time involving older people. Should they be banned from driving over a certain age, or should they take a driving test ever year? I know with age responce time slows down, aleartness isn't as good, and vision decreases. What do you thinck? ********** One of the old guard of RS. RS birthday = Feb - 27 - 2002 Proud member of the original forum.**********
May 8, 200521 yr i couldn't agree more!! All the hype is about young drivers and how bad they are, while they turn the cold shoulder on the elderly public drivers... - Only character in Runescape History maxed out in RSC and RS2
May 8, 200521 yr How can the wall be sticking to the car like that if it drove from the road to the back of the garage? Member of #darkwebz.
May 8, 200521 yr In Ontario if you're over 65 years old you have to take a drivers test every year...
May 8, 200521 yr How can the wall be sticking to the car like that if it drove from the road to the back of the garage? On elderly gentelman backed threw my grandma's garage
May 8, 200521 yr Author How can the wall be sticking to the car like that if it drove from the road to the back of the garage? it went threw the garage door, than the back wall of the garage, and than the fence. I was there :wink: and have all the origional pics. ********** One of the old guard of RS. RS birthday = Feb - 27 - 2002 Proud member of the original forum.**********
May 8, 200521 yr It should be our priority to make the general population safe drivers before we start working on the elderly.
May 8, 200521 yr How can the wall be sticking to the car like that if it drove from the road to the back of the garage? On elderly gentelman backed threw my grandma's garage Hmm. That's not what the discription of the photo says. :\ Description: An elderly gentleman hit the gas instead of the brakes, drove through a fence and the back wall of someone's garage Member of #darkwebz.
May 8, 200521 yr It should be our priority to make the general population safe drivers before we start working on the elderly. I thought the elderly were part of the general population already... Why not 'work on' the elderly at the same time as everyone else?
May 8, 200521 yr I say up until 65 years old, drivers licenses should expire every 5 years. Once someone is 65, the license should expire every 3 years (maybe 2.) Along with that, I think America should establish a nationwide, standardized driving test. It's ridiculous how different the driving tests are, even when two people go to the same place to get their license. It depends WAY too much on who the person that tests you is. I know for a fact that at the place where I got my license, some of the instructor people do not even ask you to parallel park or make a 3-point turn, while others do. My friend, who is a very good driver, got this really old guy as his driving instructor. He passed the test with the needed amount of points, but the guy automatically failed him for some stupid offense that he didn't even really commit. The guy said that my friend sped up too fast to stop signs or something, and I've never seen him do anything of the sort. Just goes to show that old people and driving really don't mix, at all. :P It's ridiculous how easy it is to get a license here, and I heard that New York was one of the hardest places in America. The test is too varied and depends too much on the instructor. We need stricter driving tests and qualifications, maybe even a higher age to first get your license. Too many people can legally take command of an over 1 ton machine going over 60 mph, when they really shouldn't have that privilege.
May 8, 200521 yr BAN THEM. I hate them on the road, but then...I have road rage. Also, i think there should be a test to see if you can drive while using a cellphone. This one lady almost hit me 3 times!!! because she was trying to dial a number on her cell phone. Dragon drops: D med x3, D Spear x2, Left Half x1, D2h x1Crawling Hands X4, Cockatrice heads X2, Basilisk head X2, Kurask head X1Support me in the drop race
May 8, 200521 yr It should be our priority to make the general population safe drivers before we start working on the elderly. I thought the elderly were part of the general population already... Why not 'work on' the elderly at the same time as everyone else? Because retired elderly people probably drive much, much less than the average 20-50 year old person and thus cause much less accidents than the average person. Edit: I think I should make the point of my original post clear: there is more of a problem and thousands of more accidents caused by average-age people (20's-50's) than the elderly.
May 9, 200521 yr The idea of not letting an old person drive is ridiculous based on their age. What should happen though is (like mentioned it happens in Ontario) once someone reaches a certain age they should have to start retaking driver's tests to mainly ensure they still have their reflexes because that causes a lot of wrecks.
May 9, 200521 yr Some old lady pulled onto the motorway (110km/hr zone) doing only 75. Lucky the lane next to me was empty, otherwise I would've had no choice but to slam right into to back of her car. I'd definately be all for older people having to retake the test every few years.
May 9, 200521 yr I think the best solution to the problem (in America at least) would be to have everyone retake their test every 5 years starting at age 60 (or something to that effect). The problem with this is that AARP would throw all of their power and money behind stopping it, so it's political suicide. Unless both parties come together and jointly propose federal legislation (and a bit of propaganda to combat AARP), there's no way to do this. As long as interest groups continue to control the government, crucial legislation like this will never become law. But I digress...
May 9, 200521 yr I think the best solution to the problem (in America at least) would be to have everyone retake their test every 5 years starting at age 60 (or something to that effect). The problem with this is that AARP would throw all of their power and money behind stopping it, so it's political suicide. Unless both parties come together and jointly propose federal legislation (and a bit of propaganda to combat AARP), there's no way to do this. As long as interest groups continue to control the government, crucial legislation like this will never become law. But I digress... I think EVERYBODY should have to retake test after 5 years - Only character in Runescape History maxed out in RSC and RS2
May 9, 200521 yr i think its [developmentally delayed]ed saying that we should "ban the old people from driving" as old is so relative. my granddad is heading on 80 now, and he is one of the best drivers i know, and regularly goes on 4WD trips while my mother is in her 40s and drives like an epileptic monkey. but im all for driving tests every (5?) years for all drivers, as long as it is fully paid for by the government. paying for a compulsary test every 5 years is as silly as the huge price they charge for the license tests in the first place.
May 9, 200521 yr Gotta agree with PinMonkey there, those who say "ban old people from driving." are wrong. You really can't generalize with the entire old population and say they are all bad drivers. I'd say you should basically have regular check-ups on the elderly once the reach say 60. All the same, I can see problems with old people driving. Yet they have their rights and I'd say thats fair. (Off topic but, anyone seen that south park episode with the elderly drivers? That shows an extreme worst case scenario. Pretty good. Funny S*) It's better to burn out, than to fade awayThe king is gone, but he's not forgotten- Neil Young
May 9, 200521 yr Wait..we're banning people from driving because they're old? Then let's ban all the young people from driving because they're young (17-25s). They cause as many accidents. And don't forget, because they're all boy racer chavs they're going at such a speed they kill, as I unfortunately know indirectly. At least old people never venture beyond 20mph... Seriously, grow up. Ban the bad drivers, not a whole generation. Particularly one that saved your sorry wagon from the swatzika und einfach nach klass musik. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
May 9, 200521 yr Wait..we're banning people from driving because they're old? Then let's ban all the young people from driving because they're young (17-25s). They cause as many accidents. And don't forget, because they're all boy racer chavs they're going at such a speed they kill, as I unfortunately know indirectly. At least old people never venture beyond 20mph... Seriously, grow up. Ban the bad drivers, not a whole generation. Particularly one that saved your sorry wagon from the swatzika und einfach nach klass musik.No no no let's go one step further and ban anyone you can fit into a group when one of them causes an accident. You're right though 65% of accidents are caused by people under 21.
May 9, 200521 yr People should have to retake their test every 5 years or so imo. A year or two ago me and my mom were on our way to north wales from birmingham in the car (2-3 hour drive.) Whenever we managed to get on the motorway to overtake the old people, we'd get stuck behind another old person when we came off it, and going down country roads whilst some prat has a good old conversation with his mate at 10mph is hardly my idea of fun. Take your god damned tests again, and you'll see how bad you really are.
May 9, 200521 yr I think we've missed the point here: Old people buy the expensive cars! Without old people driving, we'd lose the market for the expensive cars that only old people can afford with their retirement money. That could cause an economic crash!
May 10, 200521 yr The idea of not letting an old person drive is ridiculous based on their age. What should happen though is (like mentioned it happens in Ontario) once someone reaches a certain age they should have to start retaking driver's tests to mainly ensure they still have their reflexes because that causes a lot of wrecks. How odd, I thought those kind of retaking tests were standardised all over the globe - they're normal in Holland too. I think it's a good thing, if people can't drive anymore, they should be kept from doing so, for their own good. As said above, restricting them based on age is codswallop :)
May 10, 200521 yr Author from another forum this subject is being debated on: I live in Florida. My father just turned 80 Saturday. He has macular degeneration and is loosing his eyesight rapidly. My GF is in Arizona caring for her mother who just had brain surgery to remove a tumor. To her dismay, when she arrived she found that her father is almost incapable of taking care of himself. He is deaf and won̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t wear hearing aids. He would be a danger to himself and others if he had all his senses, but is deadly without his hearing. Add to that the confusion that so often comes with advanced age and you have a very incompetent driver. My father and my GF̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s father are accidents waiting to happen. Both are fiercely independent people and I realize that it would drastically reduce their quality of life if they cannot remain mobile. The fact is that younger drivers will get better (in most cases) older drivers will get worse. We̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve both have broached the driving subject and were both met with extreme hostility. I̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m afraid that a really serious accident or series of minor fender benders is what it will take to remove them from their cars. I̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m 56 and know that I̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll probably be facing the same choices in the next 15 - 25 years. Having elderly people tested more regularly (at two year intervals) is the least that should be done. A system where doctors report illness and loss of minimum skill to the D.M.V. would also be helpful. If a system is not put into place to remove incompetent drivers from the road, then in the near future I think we will see a maximum driving age. The insurance companies will see to that. That kind of blanket legislature won̢̢̮ââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be fair to the many of our elderly that are perfectly competent. I really hate to involve government in our lives any more then it alreay is, but the truth is, most parents will not accept any imput as to their abilities from their children. An outside authority is needed. ********** One of the old guard of RS. RS birthday = Feb - 27 - 2002 Proud member of the original forum.**********
May 10, 200521 yr I agree that people over a certain age should have to take a driving test once every few years, but to say that everyone should have to I think is stupid. If anything I will become a better driver as I get somewhat older. I have never had any sort of accident or traffic violation why should I have to go waste a day at the DMV? Also the tests are not good for what the problems are. It doesn't matter if someone stops at a stoplight or know how to parralell park. It matters whether or not they can see people coming from the side when they start from the stop. Also reaction time is a big factor which was not tested in my test at least.
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