Cheefoo Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 They CLING! They refuse to loosen their hold! Ever since the balanced trade, I've noticed some foolish people never want to pay anything other than the given price. Example: Someone asks if anyone has a lantern in the Lumbridge Castle Basement. I say I have one, and I go to trade with him. I ask for 1k, and it's only worth about 250 gp. He absolutely REFUSES to pay any more. Before we initiated the trade, he even agreed to pay 1k! Then when he sees he's paying more than the minimum, he refuses to pay. I'm forced to get only 250gp. Another example: I'm selling a rune platebody for 45k. Someone comes up to me to buy it, but after seeing it isn't worth 45k, he refuses to pay. Once again, these stubborn punks force me to get less, because of that darn limit being shown! Jagex did nothing wrong, but some people just don't understand what trade limits are. They think they're getting scammed, but if they weren't shown the price, they'd probably agree. I'm not "super mad" or anything, I'm just mostly wondering if anyone else has experienced this annoying quirk in some players. P.S. No offence if you stick to market prices, I'm just against people refusing to move away from the base price by even a few gp (literally). [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArgon Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 They see thats how much its worth, so, why pay over when they can go to the GE and get it probably for medium plus a few coins. 99 Crafting :: 39,750th || 99 Attack :: 1,775th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairiesWearBoots Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Keep in mind this is the runescape population. You could find more intelligence in an asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugtheorc Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Keep in mind this is the runescape population. You could find more intelligence in an asylum. true true, not to mention that most people don't even take the value of time into consideration. decline the offer and make them learn :evil: It is not the great who are strong, but the strong who are great--Albel Nox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Meh, if they want to travel all the way to the GE to get it for less, let them. Probably what will end up happening to them is once they get there the item won't sell. Then they'll regret not forking over a measly 750 gp more, which by the time they get there will already be far inferior to how much money they could make in the time they wasted. But time/money efficiency isn't something the common 'scaper can seem to grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harper128 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 If they have agreed to a price before the sale and then attempt to renege, don't sell to them. Not only that, they have broken a verbal contract, although I doubt that any court will uphold such. Also, you are providing the item at a place and time convenient to them, thus a surcharge for such is reasonable. However, the main point is DON'T sell it to them. If they want it at such a price, let them find it at such a price. Even on the GE they may not be able to get it at that price. But, if you keep selling to them at market price, they will keep demanding that you (and others) sell to them at market price. And, in all honesty, if they can't find it and come back asking you for yours at your original price, raise it. If they ask why, tell them ignorance tax. Perhaps I have been fortunate, but I had a person ask me for a mith wc axe earlier today. I didn't have one on me, so I made them one. They gave me 2k coins, even though the current market value for them is (was?) less than 100 coins. I also try to push the market values higher by selling for higher than market.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imamonkey Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 If someone tells me they will pay something for an item then they offer me less, I decline the trade and don't even bother talking to them any further about it. Most of the time they go, Kk (which to me is ignorant as hell) I'll pay. I still refuse and just don't talk to them. You already wasted my time once, I ain't jackin with ya again. And teleporting to Varrock is really not that hard. I don't even bother asking for something I want in a bank anymore. Know enough spells, have my own portals, done enough quests. I can pretty much get anywhere I need to go pretty quick, really not that hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I'd think it would make sense though. He/she'd see that it's market price is that, he/she would think, why pay more? I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 Ever hear of people buying a law rune for 1k each? That's because they don't want to go all the way to the grand exchange, and they want to buy quickly, so they give more money. I was at the entrance to a dark hole, and the person needed a lantern desperately, so I wanted to sell mine. He said it was okay to buy for 1k, until he saw the market price. He instantly refused, even though I was the only one there with a lantern. He could have payed a few hundred gp extra to save him a long trip to the grand exchange. Most people buy for higher when desperate, but not anymore. Now some people won't buy for any bit higher EVER. It's pretty irritating, especially when they accuse me of trying to scam them. [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairiesWearBoots Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Ever hear of people buying a law rune for 1k each? That's because they don't want to go all the way to the grand exchange, and they want to buy quickly, so they give more money. I was at the entrance to a dark hole, and the person needed a lantern desperately, so I wanted to sell mine. He said it was okay to buy for 1k, until he saw the market price. He instantly refused, even though I was the only one there with a lantern. He could have payed a few hundred gp extra to save him a long trip to the grand exchange. Most people buy for higher when desperate, but not anymore. Now some people won't buy for any bit higher EVER. It's pretty irritating, especially when they accuse me of trying to scam them. It's commendable to charge extra for convienance, and if someone is so desperate yet unwilling to pay, then don't settle for their price. If they needed it enough, they would agree to your price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphinsfan913 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Just decline and walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_Servo Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 One time a person said buying 1 law 5k, so I traded. He offered market price (4xx) #-o. I refused and told him not to lure people with false advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harper128 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Would that not, in fact, be a form of scamming? Makes me wonder if it would be reportable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Would that not, in fact, be a form of scamming? Makes me wonder if it would be reportable. What would be? [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sees_all1 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 i sometimes like to buy a few rune scims at the ge, then run up to bh to sell them. i but at the min on the ge, so when i'm selling, i sell at market. It upsets me when people try to give 15.3k when market is 15.39k, or similar. When I say, selling at x price, the only reason anyone should trade me is if they agree to those terms. time wasting - i know. 99 dungeoneering achieved, thanks to everyone that celebrated with me! ♪♪ Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thoughtHave some respect for someone more forgetful than yourself ♪♪♪♪ And I'm not doneAnd I won't be till my head falls off ♪♪ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harper128 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Sorry, would offering 5k for something and then refusing to pay it not be a form of scamming? Advertisers are not allowed to say that something is available for x price and then refuse to sell it to you for that price. It's considered a scam and illegal in many countries. So, would it not be the same on Runescape? You must not scam or deceive other players. And lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of fair play. Direct from Jagex's own rules. What the person did was lie for personal gain, which makes it scamming under Jagex's rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 No, it makes it unfair under Jagex rules. You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAE2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Not to do with trading at convenience of anything, but GE marketing. Want a rune kite for 40k? Tough, you'll have to wait until it sells at med price, or shell out another 1.4k. It's rediculous. People want to sell there stuff for as much as possible, fair enough. But nobody wants to buy it for max price. You get 50 people selling at max, 3 people buying. Everyone else goes min. You get stuck in a deadlock. If people were more flexible with prices, then you would make more. If you were selling drops at max, go away to get more and find that your drops were still there blocking up your GE spaces, do you wait or do you sell for lower? Most people wait, and then wait for 7 days til it gets sold. People buy for price, not convenience, and that shows, even in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Tam_Tan_Tien Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 you say you were FORCED to sell, this is not true, as if anyone can FORCE you to sell your items. O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O OO O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Sorry, would offering 5k for something and then refusing to pay it not be a form of scamming? Advertisers are not allowed to say that something is available for x price and then refuse to sell it to you for that price. It's considered a scam and illegal in many countries. So, would it not be the same on Runescape? You must not scam or deceive other players. And lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of fair play. Direct from Jagex's own rules. What the person did was lie for personal gain, which makes it scamming under Jagex's rules. They didn't say that it was the price for it. They were just asking for a higher price for the item. They can clearly SEE the price, but will pay more if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harper128 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Actually, they were not asking for a higher price, according to the person who originally posted the comment, they were OFFERING a higher price in order to attract sellers and then refused to PAY the price they offered when a seller came forward. That is the scam. Lets say I offer $10,000 for a bicycle exactly like yours. You bring over your bike and I say "Well, that's only worth $100, so that's all I'm going to pay you for it." He offered so much to get people to pay attention to him and then refused to pay what he offered for the item he wanted. That is lying for personal gain and reportable under scamming according to Jagexes rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshadow Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I ain't jackin with ya again. Oh (out of context quotes ftw) Yes, it drives me nuts, I want to strangle the people >.> I had this problem before the ge, but not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconubc4k3 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 y does jagex get to choose the prices..market ecomony revolves around player priceing.. does anyone besides me notice how prices are dropping? tho its not always a bad thing but when u cant sell d bones in g.e. for the price of blue d hide ..i personally consider that pure stupidity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 y does jagex get to choose the prices..market ecomony revolves around player priceing.. does anyone besides me notice how prices are dropping? tho its not always a bad thing but when u cant sell d bones in g.e. for the price of blue d hide ..i personally consider that pure stupidity Prices are changed by players, that's why the prices are going down. If everyone who was selling would stop selling for below minimum, the prices would be either the same or rising. Only items that started out at the wrong price need to be changed by Jagex to fit what the market will pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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