Nothing so far in this thread explains how this couldn't be used to let level 126 (138) players with crappy iron/bronze etc. equipment just get killed. Or even nothing at all. Everyone has to yield something (else I could go around naked and attack people without them getting anything in return for killing me - you can hit okay even with nothing), and if lower levels kill higher levels they'll get nice stuff either way, so the RWTers wouldn't have to spend much.

 

 

 

 

 

Because a 138 in garbage armor won't yield crap for rewards. Jagex stated the rewards are based on the impressiveness of the kill. That means It'll have to factor the level difference AND more importantly the equipment. A 138 in bronze won't yield even close to the rewards of a 138 in AGS/Bandos.

 

 

 

To a level 40 with full rune and scimmy, a level 138 would be a pretty impressive kill even when the latter is naked.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure to any level, a player with little - no equipment will not count as close to impressive, as it will look exactly as you're trying to make it.

 

 

 

BH rewards extra money after so many kills, based on equipment. If you PK someone in 100m+ worth of equipment, that would count as an impressive kill. I'm pretty posotive jagex won't make it so a level 40 can kill a 138 with nothing on him for anywhere close to a good amount of money, or else that would bring partial RWT back.. which is what they're against. Now if the kill is based more on value of the items they have, no RWT'er is going to go in 100m worth of equipment to trade off a small fraction of that.

 

 

 

Small fraction? Jagex said they're gonna make "generous" tables - a higher level in, say, 1M equipment *should* net at least 500k, if not more... and if in the above situation, the level 40 kills the level 138 with good equipment? I wouldn't be amazed if he got as much as the guy originally had. Either way, they have to remove BH to make RWT advantages/disadvantages matter.

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Nothing so far in this thread explains how this couldn't be used to let level 126 (138) players with crappy iron/bronze etc. equipment just get killed. Or even nothing at all. Everyone has to yield something (else I could go around naked and attack people without them getting anything in return for killing me - you can hit okay even with nothing), and if lower levels kill higher levels they'll get nice stuff either way, so the RWTers wouldn't have to spend much.

 

 

 

 

 

Because a 138 in garbage armor won't yield crap for rewards. Jagex stated the rewards are based on the impressiveness of the kill. That means It'll have to factor the level difference AND more importantly the equipment. A 138 in bronze won't yield even close to the rewards of a 138 in AGS/Bandos.

 

 

 

To a level 40 with full rune and scimmy, a level 138 would be a pretty impressive kill even when the latter is naked.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure to any level, a player with little - no equipment will not count as close to impressive, as it will look exactly as you're trying to make it.

 

 

 

BH rewards extra money after so many kills, based on equipment. If you PK someone in 100m+ worth of equipment, that would count as an impressive kill. I'm pretty posotive jagex won't make it so a level 40 can kill a 138 with nothing on him for anywhere close to a good amount of money, or else that would bring partial RWT back.. which is what they're against. Now if the kill is based more on value of the items they have, no RWT'er is going to go in 100m worth of equipment to trade off a small fraction of that.

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Small fraction? Jagex said they're gonna make "generous" tables - a higher level in, say, 1M equipment *should* net at least 500k, if not more... and if in the above situation, the level 40 kills the level 138 with good equipment? I wouldn't be amazed if he got as much as the guy originally had. Either way, they have to remove BH to make RWT advantages/disadvantages matter.

 

That completely depends on the manner of the kill, you can't say that every kill should get 'at least' an amount. A player dropping millions may not end up transferring even 10K worth of wealth if it was an easy kill near a safe zone and the loser did nothing to defend him/herself. Just because they say generous doesn't mean they can't also be heavily restrictive as well. There's so many factors at Jagex's command.

 

Then again, if it's a convincing and well done kill where both players fought to the best of their ability in an area where safe zones are far away, there might be a huge amount of value transferred.

 

 

 

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Maybe they'll have a system where you can only kill the same person once a day?

 

I dunno.

I Seriously doubt the ability to RWT with this. Its more than likely that they will make the drops something that a pker would drop if the person you fight has those skills. If You are fighting a lvl 44 pure and you are level 44, The fact that it is a pure with 1 defence, and not holding high value stuff to lose in the first place will probably make it hard to find someone to continuously lose stuff from death. After the stuff is lost, more has to be obtained, so RWTers will probably not work for hours getting armour and weapons simply to make a quick buck.

Small fraction? Jagex said they're gonna make "generous" tables - a higher level in, say, 1M equipment *should* net at least 500k, if not more... and if in the above situation, the level 40 kills the level 138 with good equipment? I wouldn't be amazed if he got as much as the guy originally had. Either way, they have to remove BH to make RWT advantages/disadvantages matter.

 

 

 

For a 40 to attack a 138, they would first need to find level 98 wilderness, which I doubt will exist. If it's anything like the regular wilderness as Jagex says, it will most likely go up to 55-60 at most.

 

 

 

That being said, I would immediately flag a 40 killing a 138 with good armor. That will never happen, ever, under normal circumstances and should be an instant indicator that something is up, and I would probably ban both accounts without question. A level 40 would be dead before he got his first 1 damage against a 138.

We don't even know how these new PvP worlds will look like or work yet, so it's very hard to speculate and discuss this. But I would guess that Jagex has got a very good plan for how they will stop RWTing on these new worlds. Otherwise they would never have said that they will release these new worlds, since Jagex rather has no PvP than PvP where RWTing can take place.

High rewards for kills. To avoid any RWT issues the reward for a successful PK will be generated by the game, similar to when you kill a monster at the moment. We're creating generous drop tables based on factors like your levels and the impressiveness of the kill.

 

 

 

So really what JaGex is trying to say u could kill a person wit say full bandos dfs fury etc. an u where like lvl 90 or something(lets say hes lvl 130) if he beats u he wouldnt get that much as he was much higher lvl and it was likely h'ed win.If u killed him(probally wont happen) u would get a lot of wealth,generated pk armour etc as u killed a higher lvl,better armour,better stats etc. but they would lose theyre armour but u couldnt get it.