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I want a video showing TzTok-Jad Melee attack (Not a video that has been speeded up). I hope for sound of his melee attack also if he does make sound. I have tried youtube but not found any videos that has all of this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All info about his melee attack is appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also hoped anyone could answer a question. I was thinking to melee TzTok-Jad, so i was thinking to switch my prayers to melee protect as soon as TzTok-Jad attacks with a magic or ranged.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So my question is: when can i change prayer from let's say range prayer to melee prayer, without being hit by his first attack?

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There are tons of vids, just search jad with whip or jad with godsword or something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, when you are in melee range, have melee pray on until he uses a range or mage attack. As soon as the range/mage attack hits, go back to melee pray.

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There are tons of vids, just search jad with whip or jad with godsword or something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, when you are in melee range, have melee pray on until he uses a range or mage attack. As soon as the range/mage attack hits, go back to melee pray.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks and yeah i knwo there is tons videos (After making thread i searched more). But some of them is speeded up or have bad quality, but i found couple ones and one with great quality and normal speed. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also learned that what you mentioned about switching prayers is how you do it, but i had a guess about that beforehand :thumbup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A question that i forgot to ask: you said that once attack hits you change back to melee, but can you change your prayers to melee soon as you heard the attack hits you?

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You have a pray switching guide for Jad but don't know how to melee him, lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Range pray on north east corner, attack him and melee pray after he hits with range/mage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My question about switching prayers visually is answered, i need answer to this new question:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you also change prayers to melee if you hear that his magic/range attack hits you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never claimed that i was a EXPERT/PRO at TzTok-Jad. I just made guide about prayer switching that involves using range to kill TzTok-Jad. There is not many players who melee TzTok-Jad for Fire cape, as that is hard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't like wasting my time, so i don't wanna go and get killed by TzTok-Jad so i look for relevant information before i do something. That's why i made this thread, to get information about his melee attack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That way i can develop a prayer switching training and then add it to my guide. But i pretty much got it figured out now, and i have trained on a method before i made this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have claimed that my guide works excellent, and i have proved it by doing fight cave 4 times and killing jad 4 times. But i never claimed that i had a prayer switching method for melee, neither did i say it was wise to use melee if your after Fire cape. So the "Lol" does not go for me, but you. ::'

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, why in the HELL would you melee him? EVERYONE ranges him. And, it's a melee attack, thus no delay and when you hear sound you're already hit. I swear there is no end to your stupidity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop spamming.

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You have a pray switching guide for Jad but don't know how to melee him, lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Range pray on north east corner, attack him and melee pray after he hits with range/mage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My question about switching prayers visually is answered, i need answer to this new question:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you also change prayers to melee if you hear that his magic/range attack hits you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never claimed that i was a EXPERT/PRO at TzTok-Jad. I just made guide about prayer switching that involves using range to kill TzTok-Jad. There is not many players who melee TzTok-Jad for Fire cape, as that is hard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't like wasting my time, so i don't wanna go and get killed by TzTok-Jad so i look for relevant information before i do something. That's why i made this thread, to get information about his melee attack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That way i can develop a prayer switching training and then add it to my guide. But i pretty much got it figured out now, and i have trained on a method before i made this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have claimed that my guide works excellent, and i have proved it by doing fight cave 4 times and killing jad 4 times. But i never claimed that i had a prayer switching method for melee, neither did i say it was wise to use melee if your after Fire cape. So the "Lol" does not go for me, but you. ::'

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, why in the HELL would you melee him? EVERYONE ranges him. And, it's a melee attack, thus no delay and when you hear sound you're already hit. I swear there is no end to your stupidity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop spamming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My god is there no end? Toast is right, its sad if you have a guide that works "excellent" yet you haven't mastered the finest nuances of jad slaying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can switch from melee pray to range prayer if you hear it, however you cannot do the same if you had range prayer on and he were to melee you.

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You have a pray switching guide for Jad but don't know how to melee him, lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Range pray on north east corner, attack him and melee pray after he hits with range/mage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My question about switching prayers visually is answered, i need answer to this new question:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you also change prayers to melee if you hear that his magic/range attack hits you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never claimed that i was a EXPERT/PRO at TzTok-Jad. I just made guide about prayer switching that involves using range to kill TzTok-Jad. There is not many players who melee TzTok-Jad for Fire cape, as that is hard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't like wasting my time, so i don't wanna go and get killed by TzTok-Jad so i look for relevant information before i do something. That's why i made this thread, to get information about his melee attack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That way i can develop a prayer switching training and then add it to my guide. But i pretty much got it figured out now, and i have trained on a method before i made this thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have claimed that my guide works excellent, and i have proved it by doing fight cave 4 times and killing jad 4 times. But i never claimed that i had a prayer switching method for melee, neither did i say it was wise to use melee if your after Fire cape. So the "Lol" does not go for me, but you. ::'

 

 

 

 

 

 

First of all, why in the HELL would you melee him? EVERYONE ranges him. And, it's a melee attack, thus no delay and when you hear sound you're already hit. I swear there is no end to your stupidity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop spamming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Wasn't spamming, simply voicing my opinion. Thanks.

 

 

 

2) Prayer-switching is all inclusive. Get hit by selected style, switch to melee. This isn't difficult.

 

 

 

3) Please try not to come off as so pompous. You really are not that clever; the "lol" pertains to you and only you.

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I asked for information, and what i get? Flames and spams. The only decent post was by Sxq

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Toast:

 

 

 

You keep posting on my threads alot of times, and it's obvious you got a problem with me. Because i know for sure, your posts aren't any positive meant. Take this thread for example:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You have a pray switching guide for Jad but don't know how to melee him, lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You say that, then say lol=laughing out loud, in other words you have a hidden message behind it. Which is that you find my guide not good. Instead of posting that info, that i should have a "Melee Prayer Switching Method" added to my Prayer Switching Guide, you post it on here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why? I will tell you: because you wanted to somehow make fun of me. Don't really care but i am pointing out to moderators that you are not on my thread to help me or be relevant about the topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heavendor (Whatever, i don't care for people who's immature, so i don't really bother to learn your name):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You say your on this thread and all other threads of mine to contribute but only thing you do is spam. There is no end to your stupidity and spams, obviously. Your immature, grow up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maulmachine:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My god is there no end? Toast is right, its sad if you have a guide that works "excellent" yet you haven't mastered the finest nuances of jad slaying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can switch from melee pray to range prayer if you hear it, however you cannot do the same if you had range prayer on and he were to melee you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No end to what? My stupidity? What does my guide have to do with you posting information to help?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is Help and Advice, not a interrogation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can say as many times as you want that you have posted in this thread only to help and contribute, but it's easy for me to see the negativity you have towards me. So here's how you guys try to avoid not getting reported for bad posts, you say something negative then you add something relevant to it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's easy for me to see that, but i hope moderators do too.

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If you have a guide you should know what you're doing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My guide says "SirHemen's Prayer Switching Training for TzTok-Jad". It does not say "SirHemen's Prayer Switching Training for Meleeing TzTok-Jad".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you must have had something in your eyes when you read my guide/guide's title.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know what i am doing. I have used prayer switching training, and thanks to it i have killed TzTok-Jad 4 times in row with no mistakes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But one thing i don't know, and that is why it is not added to my guide: and that is meleeing TzTok-Jad. That is why i made this thread, to learn to do so....

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Completely off topic, but (strangely) I'm with SirHemen... Since when can't you ask a question just because you have a guide on the same topic?

 

 

 

Oddly enough, I'm with you on that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OT:

 

 

 

Jad's old melee was him taking a front leg and smacking you sideways; I'm not sure what his new one is, but watching The_Murder21's videos should show you.

 

 

 

From what I recall, at least with the old Jad, you had to be praying as he started his animation, so watching for it would do no good - hence why melee protect was always used, only switching to range\mage when those animations started, and switching back as they hit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then again, I've gotten to him once, and died in 2 hits. But my advice still holds...

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Off topic: Looks like spammers start then the proper posts finish. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic: If im right, the method (once your in melee range) is to have protect from melee on, then when you see his mage/range attack, you switch. Then straight away switch back to protect from melee, after youve been hit by his mage/range attack. Just continue this till the end of the fight.

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We are spammers because we made constructive posts? yet pointed out that he should know what he's talking about for all forms of jad, a complete jad guide should tell you how to swap prayers etc, nut he marked his guide as finished and ready of AOW review, I think we have a slight right to criticize him.

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We are spammers because we made constructive posts? yet pointed out that he should know what he's talking about for all forms of jad, a complete jad guide should tell you how to swap prayers etc, nut he marked his guide as finished and ready of AOW review, I think we have a slight right to criticize him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the guide that sirhemen has is only about helping you to prepare to prayer switch..as about 90% of people that do fight caves use range sirhemen guide applies to the majority of the players....now he is trying to get information on how to attract the minority of the rs population by trying out a new tactic of meleeing jad as some poeple try this method...he simply want to try it out for himself so he can help other people in his guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic: i would agree with the later posters that you should have melee prayer on the whole time until you see or hear jad attack with mage or range then take the correct action to negate the attack.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck sirhemen

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We are spammers because we made constructive posts? yet pointed out that he should know what he's talking about for all forms of jad, a complete jad guide should tell you how to swap prayers etc, nut he marked his guide as finished and ready of AOW review, I think we have a slight right to criticize him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How is saying this, constructive posts?:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My god is there no end?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for my guide, a guide is not finished in 1 day. It's a thing you work on as you do things. Do i have to repeat myself?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have killed Jad 4 times in row with ranging and using my own guide to practice for Jad fight. 4 times and i have not died to Jad. So what, do i need to kill JAd 100 times before you believe that i know what i am talking about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, i have not managed to Mele Jad. But that's what i am trying to do, and i have not posted Melee prayer training in my guide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At first i did not believe i could dream of meleeing jad. But now i have realized that i should go for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's why i might have given impression that my guide was finished, but it was finished - for rangers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only thing your doing is spaming, cause i have not said my Prayer switching guide was for meleeing jad. And as Oliboli said: 90% of players range jad.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I myself didn't imagen to melee him (But now i am exicted!), so now i am trying to gather info and melee him and see how that goes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

About criticizing me and my guide: why didn't you do it on my guide thread? (This thread were made after the guide, and you have read my guide obviously...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For everyone else: I know that you must change prayer back to melee once his range/magic attack hits. That i know very well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for help those who did.

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I don't really get the question. You already seem to know what you need to know (while melee'ing, melee pray perm, only switch to range/mage if he uses that attack, switch back to melee after it hits).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About the flaming/spamming. Yes, there are some irrelevant posts on your thread, but instead of complaining about them you could also have ignored them. No matter what, most of your posts end up with you complaining about spam and useless posts. That almost never happens to anyone else. I fail to see how that is entirely the fault of the other posters.

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I don't really get the question. You already seem to know what you need to know (while melee'ing, melee pray perm, only switch to range/mage if he uses that attack, switch back to melee after it hits).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About the flaming/spamming. Yes, there are some irrelevant posts on your thread, but instead of complaining about them you could also have ignored them. No matter what, most of your posts end up with you complaining about spam and useless posts. That almost never happens to anyone else. I fail to see how that is entirely the fault of the other posters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The other posters post always on my threads thats why. As for my question, it got answered by Sxq, and then i came up with another one (that has not been answered).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Me complaining about other posts? Well look at all my threads where i have done and you will get these names up:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Heavendor and Toast, others that i know of have been passive about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is my unanswered question (Since you did not read the whole thread):

 

 

 

 

There are tons of vids, just search jad with whip or jad with godsword or something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically, when you are in melee range, have melee pray on until he uses a range or mage attack. As soon as the range/mage attack hits, go back to melee pray.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks and yeah i knwo there is tons videos (After making thread i searched more). But some of them is speeded up or have bad quality, but i found couple ones and one with great quality and normal speed. :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also learned that what you mentioned about switching prayers is how you do it, but i had a guess about that beforehand :thumbup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A question that i forgot to ask: you said that once attack hits you change back to melee, but can you change your prayers to melee soon as you heard the attack hits you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But i have given up on that, as none seem to be reading the thread well. Some answer things i already got answered( i appriate that guys), but as for my other question: it's not seen. But nvm it

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A question that i forgot to ask: you said that once attack hits you change back to melee, but can you change your prayers to melee soon as you heard the attack hits you?

 

 

 

Range - You hear the attack when it hits you, no sound when he launces it.

 

 

 

Mage - You hear the attack when it gets fired, no sound when it hits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess it's easier to do it by vision.

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A question that i forgot to ask: you said that once attack hits you change back to melee, but can you change your prayers to melee soon as you heard the attack hits you?

 

 

 

Range - You hear the attack when it hits you, no sound when he launces it.

 

 

 

Mage - You hear the attack when it gets fired, no sound when it hits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess it's easier to do it by vision.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe, maybe not. But i just wanted to know to try it out and see if it was easier to divide the task between my ears and eyes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks

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To answer the other question - I would wait until you actually see the damage. Most attacks are calculated before that happens, but since Jad's attacks have that delay that allows you to prayer switch at all, it seems safest simply to switch to melee when you literally see the damage splash appear on yourself.

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To all those who said i should know what i am doing when writing a guide. Let me share this with you:

 

 

 

I never said the prayer switching guide involved melee. As my guide is the first of it's kind.

 

 

 

I also practiced with a method i made using information (Thanks to Sxq and some others), and used that.

 

 

 

I later went to TzTok-Jad and killed him - 1st attempt at meleeing. and achieved my 6th Fire cape.

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