Cheap shards, how?

[Bauke]

So I read that some ogre guy trades in pouches for shards. Since I need a lot of them (2.8m to be exact) I want the shards cheap. I heard it's best to buy a certain type of pouch and trade them at the ogre for the shards.

 

 

 

Can anyone shed some light on:

 

 

 

1. Which pouch to buy

 

2. How many shards I get per pouch

 

3. Where exactly that ogre is.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

[purewcnub]

1. The cheapest pouch

 

2. 3/4 of the shards required for the pouch(also note you must have 10 levels above the level required to make the pouch to cash in)

 

3. South of yanille, I think it's Oo'glog

[Bauke]

What do you mean by the cheapest pouch? I reckon a low levelled pouch gives me less shards for the pouch? So which one would be the most cost effective?

[UnknownRemoval]

Due to varied prices that is something you will have to find out yourself. :

 

 

 

Remember, if you have some junk you can also buy shards from the RSOFail for a cheaper price from players, around 20-22gp each. :

[purewcnub]

Yeah it's sort of like finding stuff to alch.. experiment..

[Bauke]

I know, but I don't have any junk.

 

 

 

Can anyone give me some guidelines then on what to buy? How are the shards per pouch calced?

[UnknownRemoval]

Example:

 

 

Pouch at 78 Summoning:

 

 

 

Takes 200 shards to make

 

Buys from exchange at 2,000gp

 

 

 

You exchange it and get 75% of the shards back, this is 150 shards.

 

 

 

2,000/150 = 13.3gp per shard

[Bauke]

Thanks, I can work with that.

[bedman]

Like the other one has said, use that pattern to calc it.

 

 

 

Pouches which tend to be good:

 

In general: pouches which a lot of people use to lvl (Most crimson and green charm pouches with cheap seconds)

 

 

 

 

 

Bloated leeches

 

Pyrelords

 

Ibis

 

Fruit bat

 

Granite lobster

 

Obsidian gollem

 

Swamp titan

 

...

 

 

 

I used to buy leeches, pyrelords and ibis. I think it came out at 22 gp per shard.

[Bauke]

I think karamthulu's are about 20.6 now per shard. Seems a better deal right?

[UnknownRemoval]

Pretty good, better than most. The highest pouch you can transfer just now is level 78, so check pouches around the 50-78 area.

 

 

 

Normally between 19-21gp is perfect. :

[gun_hippy]

also note you must have 10 levels above the level required to make the pouch to cash in)

 

 

 

The highest pouch you can transfer just now is level 78

 

 

 

Nuu it changes by level

 

 

 

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=594

 

 

 

So you can probably do pouches up to 85/86

[Bauke]

Another question.. If 75% of a certain amount of shards is, lets say 50,4.. is it rounded up or rounded down?

[Michigander]

I'm not sure if you round up or down I always round down to be safe also I believe the pouch exchange rate is 70% of shards I could be wrong :-#

[Bauke]

Yeah, I just noticed that aswell :/ More to spend... oh well..

 

 

 

Well another question then, to keep you all busy, lol. Is the cap on summoning pouches 600 per 4 hours? Because then I know why I can't buy any more.

[llamster]

Another question.. If 75% of a certain amount of shards is, lets say 50,4.. is it rounded up or rounded down?

 

 

 

It's rounded up.

[Inuashakent]

There is a cap on pouches/hour. If it stops right there, then yeah, thats the cap. But nobody's going to do all that math for you :XD:

 

 

 

Just do it yourself, although Karambwuan seems like a good pouch as of now.

[cat666]

There is a cap on pouches/hour. If it stops right there, then yeah, thats the cap. But nobody's going to do all that math for you :XD:

 

 

 

Just do it yourself, although Karambwuan seems like a good pouch as of now.

 

 

 

Karambwuan is a fish :D

 

 

 

I think Kent means the Overload who also has a long name beginning with K :lol:

[JoeDaStudd]

I would note that you can also trade scrolls.

 

You only get 50% back per 10 scrolls, but there stackable and are sometimes cheaper.

 

I had a shed load of low lvl scrolls from granite grabs and cashed them in, in one go much more effective with low shard pouches.

[Sy_Accursed]

the most logical and efficient way to do this is too buy a good chunk of shards YOURSELF from the summoning shop.

 

 

 

While this many mean a bigger initial costs as you train you can get 3/4 of these back everytime so works out cheaper in the long run, especially as none of the useless pouches really get sold anymore due to the fact everyone trades them in.

 

 

 

If you buy say 100k shards from the store fo4 25gp ea that costs you 2.5 mil

 

 

 

However you use your 100k shards

 

Get 75k back

 

then you'll get 56,250 of them back

 

then 42,187

 

31,640

 

23,730

 

17,797

 

13,348

 

10,011

 

7,508

 

5,631

 

4,223

 

3,167

 

2,375

 

1,781

 

1,336

 

1,002

 

751

 

563

 

422

 

317

 

237

 

178

 

133

 

100

 

75

 

56

 

42

 

31

 

23

 

17

 

13

 

10

 

7

 

5

 

4

 

3

 

2

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

All in all this works out to you having the use of 399,976 Shards from the price of 100k, eg roughly quadruple what you bought in the first place.

[cat666]

the most logical and efficient way to do this is too buy a good chunk of shards YOURSELF from the summoning shop.

 

 

 

While this many mean a bigger initial costs as you train you can get 3/4 of these back everytime so works out cheaper in the long run, especially as none of the useless pouches really get sold anymore due to the fact everyone trades them in.

 

 

 

If you buy say 100k shards from the store fo4 25gp ea that costs you 2.5 mil

 

 

 

However you use your 100k shards

 

Get 75k back

 

then you'll get 56,250 of them back

 

then 42,187

 

31,640

 

23,730

 

17,797

 

13,348

 

10,011

 

7,508

 

5,631

 

4,223

 

3,167

 

2,375

 

1,781

 

1,336

 

1,002

 

751

 

563

 

422

 

317

 

237

 

178

 

133

 

100

 

75

 

56

 

42

 

31

 

23

 

17

 

13

 

10

 

7

 

5

 

4

 

3

 

2

 

1

 

 

 

 

 

All in all this works out to you having the use of 399,976 Shards from the price of 100k, eg roughly quadruple what you bought in the first place.

 

 

 

Depends which pouches you make as sometimes you will be unable to trade them in for shards right away. For example I've just got the level for Swamp Titans but cannot change my pouches to shard until I'm a little higher.

[Sy_Accursed]

the most logical and efficient way to do this is too buy a good chunk of shards YOURSELF from the summoning shop.

 

 

 

While this many mean a bigger initial costs as you train you can get 3/4 of these back everytime so works out cheaper in the long run, especially as none of the useless pouches really get sold anymore due to the fact everyone trades them in.

 

 

 

If you buy say 100k shards from the store fo4 25gp ea that costs you 2.5 mil

 

 

 

 

 

All in all this works out to you having the use of 399,976 Shards from the price of 100k, eg roughly quadruple what you bought in the first place.

 

 

 

Depends which pouches you make as sometimes you will be unable to trade them in for shards right away. For example I've just got the level for Swamp Titans but cannot change my pouches to shard until I'm a little higher.

 

 

 

That point is irrelevant.

 

 

 

Because even though you are making swamp titans and have not got the level to trade them in you will be able to trade them in eventually and as such have access to those reclaimed shards.

[cat666]

the most logical and efficient way to do this is too buy a good chunk of shards YOURSELF from the summoning shop.

 

 

 

While this many mean a bigger initial costs as you train you can get 3/4 of these back everytime so works out cheaper in the long run, especially as none of the useless pouches really get sold anymore due to the fact everyone trades them in.

 

 

 

If you buy say 100k shards from the store fo4 25gp ea that costs you 2.5 mil

 

 

 

 

 

All in all this works out to you having the use of 399,976 Shards from the price of 100k, eg roughly quadruple what you bought in the first place.

 

 

 

Depends which pouches you make as sometimes you will be unable to trade them in for shards right away. For example I've just got the level for Swamp Titans but cannot change my pouches to shard until I'm a little higher.

 

 

 

That point is irrelevant.

 

 

 

Because even though you are making swamp titans and have not got the level to trade them in you will be able to trade them in eventually and as such have access to those reclaimed shards.

 

 

 

It isn't irrelevant. You're saying you can get 399,976 shards from 100k's worth, which although true isn't the only offset.

 

 

 

For example you could use those 100k shards and still not be able to trade the pouches in for the 75k back. So in order to carry on training you would need to spend more than the 100k on shards. For summoners on a budget this may be too much and makes the point relevant.

 

 

 

Although I do agree with you, trading pouches is the best way to train by far.

[ultimatballr]

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the most logical and efficient way to do this is too buy a good chunk of shards YOURSELF from the summoning shop.

 

 

 

While this many mean a bigger initial costs as you train you can get 3/4 of these back everytime so works out cheaper in the long run, especially as none of the useless pouches really get sold anymore due to the fact everyone trades them in.

 

 

 

If you buy say 100k shards from the store fo4 25gp ea that costs you 2.5 mil

 

 

 

 

 

All in all this works out to you having the use of 399,976 Shards from the price of 100k, eg roughly quadruple what you bought in the first place.

 

 

 

Depends which pouches you make as sometimes you will be unable to trade them in for shards right away. For example I've just got the level for Swamp Titans but cannot change my pouches to shard until I'm a little higher.

 

 

 

That point is irrelevant.

 

 

 

Because even though you are making swamp titans and have not got the level to trade them in you will be able to trade them in eventually and as such have access to those reclaimed shards.

 

 

 

It isn't irrelevant. You're saying you can get 399,976 shards from 100k's worth, which although true isn't the only offset.

 

 

 

For example you could use those 100k shards and still not be able to trade the pouches in for the 75k back. So in order to carry on training you would need to spend more than the 100k on shards. For summoners on a budget this may be too much and makes the point relevant.

 

 

 

Although I do agree with you, trading pouches is the best way to train by far.

[/hide]

 

 

 

Cat is right Paw, that is a main stay that came with the ability to trade in pouches, which is the level required to trade them in. I made bunyip pouches to level myself up a bit and use up my extra raw sharks. Now when I wanted to trade them in I couldn't because I need level 73 and got to 71. So the 25k shards I used are no longer useful. So now I have to buy even MORE shards to continue on summoning until I get that level 73 to trade in my 25k worth of shard pouches.

[Sy_Accursed]

[hide=]

the most logical and efficient way to do this is too buy a good chunk of shards YOURSELF from the summoning shop.

 

 

 

While this many mean a bigger initial costs as you train you can get 3/4 of these back everytime so works out cheaper in the long run, especially as none of the useless pouches really get sold anymore due to the fact everyone trades them in.

 

 

 

If you buy say 100k shards from the store fo4 25gp ea that costs you 2.5 mil

 

 

 

 

 

All in all this works out to you having the use of 399,976 Shards from the price of 100k, eg roughly quadruple what you bought in the first place.

 

 

 

Depends which pouches you make as sometimes you will be unable to trade them in for shards right away. For example I've just got the level for Swamp Titans but cannot change my pouches to shard until I'm a little higher.

 

 

 

That point is irrelevant.

 

 

 

Because even though you are making swamp titans and have not got the level to trade them in you will be able to trade them in eventually and as such have access to those reclaimed shards.

 

 

 

It isn't irrelevant. You're saying you can get 399,976 shards from 100k's worth, which although true isn't the only offset.

 

 

 

For example you could use those 100k shards and still not be able to trade the pouches in for the 75k back. So in order to carry on training you would need to spend more than the 100k on shards. For summoners on a budget this may be too much and makes the point relevant.

 

 

 

Although I do agree with you, trading pouches is the best way to train by far.

[/hide]

 

 

 

Cat is right Paw, that is a main stay that came with the ability to trade in pouches, which is the level required to trade them in. I made bunyip pouches to level myself up a bit and use up my extra raw sharks. Now when I wanted to trade them in I couldn't because I need level 73 and got to 71. So the 25k shards I used are no longer useful. So now I have to buy even MORE shards to continue on summoning until I get that level 73 to trade in my 25k worth of shard pouches.

 

 

 

In small amounts it can be an issue.

 

 

 

But if you can buy in larger amounts and use the best training methods via mainly crimsons it is virtually impossible to not acquire the trade in level before you run out of shards.

 

 

 

Equally if you make along the way some useful pouches such as terrorbirds or bunyips to sell off you can easily keep your shard flow going.