January 11, 200917 yr Rules: Clan Name: 'The' Clan Abbreviation: T Forums: http://www.theclan.ws/ & http://www.orange-ownage.com (same thing) Memberlist : http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=theclan IRC channel (if Public): irc.mozor.net #theclan Participating list(s): http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=theclan Specific declarations: Saturday, January 10th, 6 pm EST / 11 pm GMT RULES F2P CWA Turrets All Styles no fireblast Full out Knockout No Infinite run or rings. No corr dragon weps or armour The Fight: Massing up a respectable 40+ people (like 3 didn't get into the portal fast enough... slowpokes.) We went out to fight TSL. We met up at CWA and set up the fight. The fight itself was very short due to the lack of numbers on the TSL side. We would like to thank TSL very much for being the only clan to accept a war at such short notice against a clan with so much more experience. Thank you. Starting: 'The' Clan: 39 TSL: 8 Ending: 'The' Clan: 39 TSL: 0 Respect for comming TSL. And better luck next time, I know you guys can do much much better. SaDa1337 'The' Clan Council/General
January 11, 200917 yr Gf the, but you said you would pull 6-10 people. That looked like it. Still, gf, but be more honest next time. -Purple guy, Ruffalex. 99 Thieving308 Quest Points99 Defence99 AttackLord Purple ;)
January 11, 200917 yr Better luck next time, TSL. 'The' moves up to #1; The Shadowed Legion stays at #12. *-P.K.M-* Website
January 11, 200917 yr Gf the, but you said you would pull 6-10 people. That looked like it. Still, gf, but be more honest next time. -Purple guy, Ruffalex. (21:14:17) -RuneScript- *** [ CLAN INFO ]: [TSL] The Shadowed Legion ( http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=tslc with this kind of ml i was hoping you guys would pull more. i expected better from you and i hope you get up to your true potential. you guys have alot to work with in a ml like that and could be a force to be reckoned with if you go for warring. gl in future wars and i hope someday we can fight again on equal playing fields where your huge ml is an advantage for you p.s. you know your hw is 'THE' clan's old hw :-P
January 11, 200917 yr ROFL! This is actually went down? 39, 120 avg cb clan actually expects 8 ppl from 83 cb avg clan to fight? for a twr ranked war? Wow..lol Im sensing some politics going down between these 2 clans, tbh. Whats funny is TSL doesn't accept wars with lower cb avg clans but accepts yours, lol. I find it ironic, when we mass 50 opts (95 cb avg) against 30 (115 cb avg) and people complain about the odds. Nonetheless, gf, i suppose...
January 11, 200917 yr (21:14:17) -RuneScript- *** [ CLAN INFO ]: [TSL] The Shadowed Legion ( http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=tslc with this kind of ml i was hoping you guys would pull more. i expected better from you and i hope you get up to your true potential. you guys have alot to work with in a ml like that and could be a force to be reckoned with if you go for warring. gl in future wars and i hope someday we can fight again on equal playing fields where your huge ml is an advantage for you p.s. you know your hw is 'THE' clan's old hw :-P I was telling people not to go, as it would be a waste of time tbh. (Yay people who are on average 40 levels higher than us ^_^) Hell, I was on during the time of the war, except I was slaying :S Hope that explains the low pull :thumbdown: Leader of Nexus Solace FAhttp://www.nx-clan.com/
January 11, 200917 yr Why did you do that, leaving the clanmembers who came on their own :/. Besides you have a memberlist with potential if you get people to come :).
January 11, 200917 yr Grats, 'The' :thumbsup: Not sure what to say about the attitude from TSL, not exactly great spirit... Well, their loss. Hopefully that was a one time thing, otherwise I foresee some dissatisfaction. You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now?
January 11, 200917 yr Yeah, that was was decided by a one-on-one duel between the greatest tanks on each side :^o . And no offence, TSL, but you guys need to clean your ml a bit, I don't even think most of those guys actually still play :roll: Good job anyways =D>
January 11, 200917 yr Gratz 'the' "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti
January 11, 200917 yr Not sure what to say about the attitude from TSL, not exactly great spirit... Well, their loss. Hopefully that was a one time thing, otherwise I foresee some dissatisfaction. How would you like to take on the KBD with no armor, weapon, or food. thats what they went through. why 'The' hunts clans lower than them is beyond me but i find it kinda sad
January 11, 200917 yr Not sure what to say about the attitude from TSL, not exactly great spirit... Well, their loss. Hopefully that was a one time thing, otherwise I foresee some dissatisfaction. How would you like to take on the KBD with no armor, weapon, or food. thats what they went through. why 'The' hunts clans lower than them is beyond me but i find it kinda sad How is it sad? They are free to decline eh? First of all, we have higher averages but they have double our memberlist. So you expect they can pull double our numbers, which maybe doesn't compensate the average difference but would have given them a far closer fight. Secondly, this is a TWR. In that ranking you can challenge who you want, when you want and under the conditions you agree. We were looking for a good fight, and we tried to arrange one. It's not we are hunting down small clans, but if we can get a fight we fight. Because that's fun, it's why clans excist ;).
January 11, 200917 yr Not sure what to say about the attitude from TSL, not exactly great spirit... Well, their loss. Hopefully that was a one time thing, otherwise I foresee some dissatisfaction. How would you like to take on the KBD with no armor, weapon, or food. thats what they went through. why 'The' hunts clans lower than them is beyond me but i find it kinda sad How is it sad? They are free to decline eh? First of all, we have higher averages but they have double our memberlist. So you expect they can pull double our numbers, which maybe doesn't compensate the average difference but would have given them a far closer fight. Secondly, this is a TWR. In that ranking you can challenge who you want, when you want and under the conditions you agree. We were looking for a good fight, and we tried to arrange one. It's not we are hunting down small clans, but if we can get a fight we fight. Because that's fun, it's why clans excist ;). Fun? I'm sure the fun was also one sided too
January 11, 200917 yr Not sure what to say about the attitude from TSL, not exactly great spirit... Well, their loss. Hopefully that was a one time thing, otherwise I foresee some dissatisfaction. How would you like to take on the KBD with no armor, weapon, or food. thats what they went through. why 'The' hunts clans lower than them is beyond me but i find it kinda sad Agreed. I question, if TSL actually accepted this war officially. Because it doesn't make sense really, they've declined other clans' war declarations who are much closer to their lvls, yet they openly accept a war vs a 120 cb avg clan? lol? And if TSL did really accept this war, then i think TWR should re-consider accepting them as an official, well-structured, clan. That thinks about the wars they get into before warring and measures the odds of winning/losing logically.
January 12, 200917 yr First off with the rules currently in place in TWR you are required to accept fights unless certain circumstances are met. Secondly to fully figure out where clans actually measure up on the rankings clans need to fight other clans. There are clans that are low on the ranks that deserve to be higher and some high that rank hug. We honestly thought it would be more even if a 200 ml with a lower cmb ave fought us but sadly that didnt happen. Fighting gets you experience plain and simple. Before people complain about how we fought this clan or that clan why dont you stop complaining. It happened. I do not understand what is wrong.
January 12, 200917 yr Fighting gets you experience plain and simple. Very well put. :) The more wars fought, the more accurate the TWR list becomes. (And for the record, I have taken on the KBD with only a dds and an antifire shield. I do stuff like that. ;) ) You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now?
January 12, 200917 yr Author Oh, about the fact whether they did accept it or not. They did. With exactly the rules posted. We expected a significantly higher pull from them, guess we got our hopes high. Also no one says you can't use the system to your advantage. We went through 90% of the TWR to find a fight (RT and BK comming in the near future), I can say we were desperate. The fight itself was a run over (all i can say is Shepsidude went to let them attack him, didnt pray or eat and was 25hp when we won.) None the less, RESPECT to the 8 brave guys who actually had the guts to stand up for a 200ML clan.
January 12, 200917 yr Exactly what SaDa said. We were expecting a high pull from them and looked forward for an enjoyable fight. This didn't come through though but i personally respect the TSL members who came to the fight. Needless to point out that TSL leadership isn't getting much of respect. Even if you know your clan is bound to lose a fight it still is warring experience which is vital for a warring clan. You can't expect to bring 100 members with you and own at clan wars arena if you don't train them. Once upon a time me and 6 other 'The' members went to CWA for fun and we beat down a clan of 40+ people just because they had no clue what to do. We even KOed people solo. If you don't want that happen you need to war and drill your members and if i had been in TSL leadership that is exactly what i would've done; tanking practice if not anything else. Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant: "If I live, I will kill you, If I Die, you are forgiven." Such is the Rule of Honor.
January 12, 200917 yr The problem with TSL is their activity not matching up with their memberlist. To this war, they pulled approximately four percent of their total memberlist. Sure, 'The' may have a higher combat average, but TSL's memberlist is massive. Clans usually have decent activity, and that's what 'The' thought when coming into this war. I don't think it was an unfair fight considering the memberlists. *-P.K.M-* Website
January 14, 200917 yr The real problem is that I'm new and was too stupid to realise that the would not pull 6-10 even when told so. Eh, only thing I can say is that I'm still new and learning. And we are going through a major reorganization which cause our pull to be massively lower than normal, on top of the fact that people got disheartened when they saw Yogosun's name on the list. If anyone's to blame here, it's me really, for accepting the war, and not thinking. I guarantee, that's not happening again. After the month period, tsl should be back and better than ever.
January 14, 200917 yr The real problem is that I'm new and was too stupid to realise that the would not pull 6-10 even when told so. Eh, only thing I can say is that I'm still new and learning. And we are going through a major reorganization which cause our pull to be massively lower than normal, on top of the fact that people got disheartened when they saw Yogosun's name on the list. If anyone's to blame here, it's me really, for accepting the war, and not thinking. I guarantee, that's not happening again. After the month period, tsl should be back and better than ever. gl with your reworking. when it comes to fights set up with other clans.... try to get rules that favor you. all styles will not help a clan that pulls lower opts and lack organization (stuff like that). try to do research on clans and fight fight topics whether on here or on rsc depending on the clan to get a basis of what they do. learn your clans strengths whether its binding, tanking, short prep fights, long prep fights and the like. best advice is to do alot of fights and figure out what your are good at. take it as learning and it will be easier to deal with. if you know you are going against a clan out of your league take what you can from the fight (see if you can tank for a minute or something) try to use every experience as a way to get better. and on the yogosun note. he usually only comes to very very big events. he came along during the stealing creation introduction to the game which was nice since he could do all lvl 5 stuff :-P. in a war his 126 is the same as any others and its based on skill/exp in wars that get you to be good. i have seen 105's tank better than 120's so never be disheartened by lvls if you believe in yourself
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