mining, don't do it- waste of time

[quelmotz]

your dislike is your opinion and other people might have their own ones so dont act like yours is the most important. And mining should be equal in exp rate with wc and fishing since they are on the same lvl of resource gathering skills. You liking it or not has nothing to do with equalizing mining.

[sephiroth_king]

Interesting. How do you know how long it takes???? your sig shows you don't even have 85 mining. Dont talk crap without evidence.

 

 

 

Im not saying rune mining is a slow way of earning money, but it takes too long and its quite boring.

 

 

 

You know which posters I hate the most? Hipocrits. Especially you. Your RS highscores show that your mining skill doesn't even come close to know what the he'll your talking about, so how about YOU take a hint and listen to yourself, huh? Idiots don't belong here...Now, go back to RSOF, use your illogical arguments there. But okay, I'll humor you for a bit.

 

 

 

So yeah, mining does get one ore per rock. Rune essence mining exempt. Now, if it weren't one ore per rock, they wouldn't be worth as much as they are now because it would be easier to get, and then people like you would then be complaining that "I I'd mad cuz I get multple ore but no money!11omgwtfbbq I'm going to yell at people more intelligent than me11!" No, no, no; you are in a river of phail and are sinking in your phailboat, slowly but surely. I can't help but lol. :lol:

 

 

 

Same goes for your everlasting statement that WCers have an advantage. Again, no EFFING way. If you want to make any profit at all, then you must cut down better trees, more specifically yew trees or above. Oh, and if you think that any log below that will make you any cash within a days work, show me. Point is, yew trees can make you a crap load in a day...anyway. You have to fight others for yews, as almost every single person and their mothers think exactly like you and think that.", because they get multiple logs, that they'll make more. Haha, no. Fishing is different. It takes forever to get fish at a decent rate; however, it does get easier as your level goes up. Nevertheless, it still takes a while, just like mining is, and each skill requires the same amount of attention. No matter how you look at it, each is difficult in some way, shape, or form.

 

 

 

Now, to your latest post. Only thing I have to say: stop acting like YOUR opinion is the all important one. We aren't saying ours is, but like every other no brain super RSOFer you block everyone else then accuse US of blocking out your opinion. Please do us a favor, learn how to argue well and maybe I'll hear you out. Till then...Well, to pit it bluntly...GTFO!!!

[wcingisbad]

Even at 60 mining with the guild coal is slow.

 

And the road to 60 is long and painful

 

The road to 85 even longer, and rune isn't that valuable anymore.

 

Better off with another skill for mass money

 

 

 

Yeah I know why you hate mining. You can't stand a hard skill and give up before reaching halfway your goal level, right?

[GibberEsh]

After factoring in the time required to get to 85 mining??

 

 

 

dont insist on looking at something from a perspective, like that rune mining earns millions/h so it is a very good way of earning money. think about the costs, running to the bank, etc.

 

 

 

The... the costs of rune mining? You mean the rune pickaxe? The banking? In order to effectively mine rune, you have to be able to bank as quickly as possible so that you don't miss the next ore and mess up your times. You bank while you wait for the next ore to spawn, so it's not a factor other than getting good at doing it quickly.

 

 

 

It doesn't take THAT long to get to 85. It certainly doesn't take as long as 91 Runecrafting or getting the combat levels to effectively make max profit at green dragons.

 

 

 

Interesting. How do you know how long it takes???? your sig shows you don't even have 85 mining. Dont talk crap without evidence.

 

 

 

Im not saying rune mining is a slow way of earning money, but it takes too long and its quite boring.

 

Psst...try clicking his rs name on the left, he has 87 mining. Anyways, mining is enjoyable if you star hunt and go granite mining once in a while. That's how I got from 74 to 80.

[Zaaps1]

You still havent answered the point about miners only being able to mine one ore per rock whereas wcers and fishermen can get much more than one fish/log per spot/tree. A rock is quite big so why shouldn't there be more than a vein of ore in a rock??????

 

 

 

Because if it was then mining really would be a waste of time since the prices would be so low. But since that's not the case, we can get great profits. If miners could get multiple ores per rock, what would the point be in mining? It would be like granite, worthless.

[RosettaStoned]

You, my friend, are wrong. I started on my account 7 days ago, and I'm already at 68 mining and I've made a grand total of about 7 mil, and I currently have 3.5mil. Mining got me every dime I've got, and it is without a doubt the most profitable F2P skill there is.

 

 

 

Really? How long do you play per day? i bet that's a big fat lie.

 

 

 

It's not? I've been home all day every day so I've been powertraining for about 4-5 hours a day, usually more.

[Abc1230]

I like mining... sure it's not afkable but that's why runite ore is worth so much.

[quelmotz]

Me a hypocrite? you cant even spell it properly. You think you're so cool by flaming people and spamming threads. If you want to flame, go make your own thread and watch the mods locking it.

 

 

 

On to the main issue. Lowering the difficulty of mining(but not too much) will not affect the earnings of a rune miner since the ease of getting ores=the price of it, so it will balance out. simple supply and demand even a 10 year old understands.

 

 

 

Or are you guys scared of the competition of people training mining very fast just to get rune ore??

 

 

 

Mining is supposed to be similar to wc, only one is for providing supply of stuff to fletchers for rangers, and another is for providing supply of stuff for smithers for warriors.

[Sir_Kurity]

IF you could mine multiple ore per rock.

 

 

 

XP would have to be reduced to make up for it (both mining and smithing).

 

Rocks would have to respawn slower.

 

And most of all, ore would be worth far, far less than it is now, so mining wouldn't be worth it anyway.

[wcingisbad]

Me a hypocrite? you cant even spell it properly. You think you're so cool by flaming people and spamming threads. If you want to flame, go make your own thread and watch the mods locking it.

 

 

 

On to the main issue. Lowering the difficulty of mining(but not too much) will not affect the earnings of a rune miner since the ease of getting ores=the price of it, so it will balance out. simple supply and demand even a 10 year old understands.

 

 

 

Or are you guys scared of the competition of people training mining very fast just to get rune ore??

 

 

 

Mining is supposed to be similar to wc, only one is for providing supply of stuff to fletchers for rangers, and another is for providing supply of stuff for smithers for warriors.

 

 

 

Difficulty, difficulty, difficulty.

 

 

 

You're throwing a whine simply because the skill is too hard for you. Go play games that have easy mode availiable instead.

[jimv]

Speaking from the standpoint of someone that has 99 mining, my runescape name is jim_vierling if you want to check, mining can be alright if you can find an empty mine. The worst part of mining is when you have to fight for the ores or gems with other players. Say there are 2 rune ores and you both try to mine each ore at the same time trying to get both of them. You each get 1 of them. Both of you just wasted the time it took for the other to get their ore for nothing. As for making money, I did not try to make money from mining. I used the ores for smithing and the gems for crafting. Then I alched the final product. That way I got xp in mining, smithing, crafting and magic plus the money. By the way I also mined my own pure essence and made my own runes so any money from alching is pure profit. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

Jagex needs to make everything on the game that is stationary work like the farming patches do. That way no one has to fight with anyone else to get what they are trying to do done. Jagex needs to amke all the dungeons load individually as well so it would not matter if 50 people are trying to fight in the same dungeon.

[Zaaps1]

Me a hypocrite? you cant even spell it properly. You think you're so cool by flaming people and spamming threads. If you want to flame, go make your own thread and watch the mods locking it.

 

 

 

On to the main issue. Lowering the difficulty of mining(but not too much) will not affect the earnings of a rune miner since the ease of getting ores=the price of it, so it will balance out. simple supply and demand even a 10 year old understands.

 

 

 

So if it will balance it out why do you insist on changing it? Obviously, you want to change it so the skill becomes easier. Doing so would mean ore prices would drop and people who did it the hard and respectable way would get screwed.

 

 

 

If you want to change it so it's balanced, then there will be no point for the change in the first place.

 

 

 

So what are you trying to say? What I see is someone who can't endure mining. That's fine. Not everyone can, and some of my good friends can't either. It's not a skill catered to everyone, and you can be perfectly fine and very successful without ever touching upon it. Fact is though, you're missing out on many benefits. If you don't like the skill, don't mess it up for other people.

[quelmotz]

Since when is balancing it out messing with other people?? And who says i cant stand mining? I just don't do it too much in my account because i have other things to cater to like training combat.

 

 

 

 

So if it will balance it out why do you insist on changing it? Obviously, you want to change it so the skill becomes easier. Doing so would mean ore prices would drop and people who did it the hard and respectable way would get screwed.

 

If you want to change it so it's balanced, then there will be no point for the change in the first place.

 

 

 

What the hell are you talking about? Changing it to be balanced from the old one is like updating it, improving it so it would be equal to woodcutting.

 

 

 

Or if you don't want mining to be easier, increase the difficulty of woodcutting and screw the even larger population of people without 99 woodcutting. Think about it. Jagex will always try to please the larger group of people and minimise the unhappiness of customers.

 

 

 

So what if you screw people up? When the "cook x" option and pest control came out, everyone who got 99 cooking the old fashioned way/ high lvled combat felt cheated. Different people have different thinking. What you think as "respectable" another person might call it old fashioned and pointless.

 

Cope with change-you cant stop it. If you cant, go play classic. If there's not change, runescape will become a boring old game with nothing ever updated.

[s1reatalot]

Mining is the most worth-while boring skill ever, It's profitable but it's so boring.

[Atom Smash40]

ill train a skill if i want.

 

 

 

and mining is actually very decent money in both f2p and p2p. i mine gold. ~140k an hr and i can AFK it since all i do is listen for when the pick stops picking at the rock.

 

 

 

and its not a waste of time. far from it. if mining is a waste of time, firemaking is taking yourself to a beach and counting all the grains of sand.

 

 

 

just because you dont have the patience (or mental capacity, evidently) to train mining doesnt mean other people are like you.

[wcingisbad]

Since when is balancing it out messing with other people?? And who says i cant stand mining? I just don't do it too much in my account because i have other things to cater to like training combat.

 

 

 

 

So if it will balance it out why do you insist on changing it? Obviously, you want to change it so the skill becomes easier. Doing so would mean ore prices would drop and people who did it the hard and respectable way would get screwed.

 

If you want to change it so it's balanced, then there will be no point for the change in the first place.

 

 

 

What the hell are you talking about? Changing it to be balanced from the old one is like updating it, improving it so it would be equal to woodcutting.

 

 

 

Or if you don't want mining to be easier, increase the difficulty of woodcutting and screw the even larger population of people without 99 woodcutting. Think about it. Jagex will always try to please the larger group of people and minimise the unhappiness of customers.

 

 

 

So what if you screw people up? When the "cook x" option and pest control came out, everyone who got 99 cooking the old fashioned way/ high lvled combat felt cheated. Different people have different thinking. What you think as "respectable" another person might call it old fashioned and pointless.

 

Cope with change-you cant stop it. If you cant, go play classic. If there's not change, runescape will become a boring old game with nothing ever updated.

 

 

 

Why fixing something that isn't broken by the way???

[quelmotz]

ill train a skill if i want.

 

 

 

and mining is actually very decent money in both f2p and p2p. i mine gold. ~140k an hr and i can AFK it since all i do is listen for when the pick stops picking at the rock.

 

 

 

and its not a waste of time. far from it. if mining is a waste of time, firemaking is taking yourself to a beach and counting all the grains of sand.

 

 

 

just because you dont have the patience (or mental capacity, evidently) to train mining doesnt mean other people are like you.

 

 

 

You think you're so smart that you can insult people's intelligence? Firemaking is a processing skill and it is not on the same level as mining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now who's the stupid idiot?

 

 

 

It is broken, by the way. Just because it's profitable doesn't mean its not broken. Wcing yews earn a lot of money for a skill that requires only 60 wc. Ok rune mining earns more but it needs 85 MINING for goodness's sake. At lvl 45 or something, training mining can only get you at MAX about 10k exp per hour powermining iron ore. Wcing, i got from level 44-48 in about 1 and a half hour.

[Obtaurian]

ill train a skill if i want.

 

 

 

and mining is actually very decent money in both f2p and p2p. i mine gold. ~140k an hr and i can AFK it since all i do is listen for when the pick stops picking at the rock.

 

 

 

and its not a waste of time. far from it. if mining is a waste of time, firemaking is taking yourself to a beach and counting all the grains of sand.

 

 

 

just because you dont have the patience (or mental capacity, evidently) to train mining doesnt mean other people are like you.

 

 

 

You think you're so smart that you can insult people's intelligence? Firemaking is a processing skill and it is not on the same level as mining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now who's the stupid idiot?

 

 

 

It is broken, by the way. Just because it's profitable doesn't mean its not broken. Wcing yews earn a lot of money for a skill that requires only 60 wc. Ok rune mining earns more but it needs 85 MINING for goodness's sake. At lvl 45 or something, training mining can only get you at MAX about 10k exp per hour powermining iron ore. Wcing, i got from level 44-48 in about 1 and a half hour.

 

 

 

Could you please provide sources for your numbers? I'm particularly worried that you think yews are good money and 45 mining maxes at 10k exp an hour.

[quelmotz]

in f2p.

 

 

 

yews are good money. My friend(f2p) made a lot of money by wcing yews and many other people wc yews too. There are a lot of competition for yews so the money isnt that good but who said miners don't have competition??

[Obtaurian]

in f2p.

 

 

 

yews are good money. My friend(f2p) made a lot of money by wcing yews and many other people wc yews too. There are a lot of competition for yews so the money isnt that good but who said miners don't have competition??

 

 

 

I'm sorry, but I pay to play the game, so I have access to a much larger supply of ores and trees than you do. I'm afraid I can't empathize.

[Nefelia]

ill train a skill if i want.

 

 

 

and mining is actually very decent money in both f2p and p2p. i mine gold. ~140k an hr and i can AFK it since all i do is listen for when the pick stops picking at the rock.

 

 

 

and its not a waste of time. far from it. if mining is a waste of time, firemaking is taking yourself to a beach and counting all the grains of sand.

 

 

 

just because you dont have the patience (or mental capacity, evidently) to train mining doesnt mean other people are like you.

 

 

 

You think you're so smart that you can insult people's intelligence? Firemaking is a processing skill and it is not on the same level as mining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now who's the stupid idiot?

 

 

 

It is broken, by the way. Just because it's profitable doesn't mean its not broken. Wcing yews earn a lot of money for a skill that requires only 60 wc. Ok rune mining earns more but it needs 85 MINING for goodness's sake. At lvl 45 or something, training mining can only get you at MAX about 10k exp per hour powermining iron ore. Wcing, i got from level 44-48 in about 1 and a half hour.

 

 

 

10,000/35 = 286 ores in an hour (4.76 ore per minute). Does that sound realistic to you?

[TheDayRsDied]

ill train a skill if i want.

 

 

 

and mining is actually very decent money in both f2p and p2p. i mine gold. ~140k an hr and i can AFK it since all i do is listen for when the pick stops picking at the rock.

 

 

 

and its not a waste of time. far from it. if mining is a waste of time, firemaking is taking yourself to a beach and counting all the grains of sand.

 

 

 

just because you dont have the patience (or mental capacity, evidently) to train mining doesnt mean other people are like you.

 

 

 

You think you're so smart that you can insult people's intelligence? Firemaking is a processing skill and it is not on the same level as mining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now who's the stupid idiot?

 

 

 

It is broken, by the way. Just because it's profitable doesn't mean its not broken. Wcing yews earn a lot of money for a skill that requires only 60 wc. Ok rune mining earns more but it needs 85 MINING for goodness's sake. At lvl 45 or something, training mining can only get you at MAX about 10k exp per hour powermining iron ore. Wcing, i got from level 44-48 in about 1 and a half hour.

 

 

 

Could you please provide sources for your numbers? I'm particularly worried that you think yews are good money and 45 mining maxes at 10k exp an hour.

 

 

 

Actually, 10k is high. When I powermined mining for quest requirements, I would go from iron rock to iron rock, dropping ores. At 50 mining I actually hoped for 10k mining xp/hr and rarely got it.

[Obtaurian]

ill train a skill if i want.

 

 

 

and mining is actually very decent money in both f2p and p2p. i mine gold. ~140k an hr and i can AFK it since all i do is listen for when the pick stops picking at the rock.

 

 

 

and its not a waste of time. far from it. if mining is a waste of time, firemaking is taking yourself to a beach and counting all the grains of sand.

 

 

 

just because you dont have the patience (or mental capacity, evidently) to train mining doesnt mean other people are like you.

 

 

 

You think you're so smart that you can insult people's intelligence? Firemaking is a processing skill and it is not on the same level as mining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now who's the stupid idiot?

 

 

 

It is broken, by the way. Just because it's profitable doesn't mean its not broken. Wcing yews earn a lot of money for a skill that requires only 60 wc. Ok rune mining earns more but it needs 85 MINING for goodness's sake. At lvl 45 or something, training mining can only get you at MAX about 10k exp per hour powermining iron ore. Wcing, i got from level 44-48 in about 1 and a half hour.

 

 

 

Could you please provide sources for your numbers? I'm particularly worried that you think yews are good money and 45 mining maxes at 10k exp an hour.

 

 

 

Actually, 10k is high. When I powermined mining for quest requirements, I would go from iron rock to iron rock, dropping ores. At 50 mining I actually hoped for 10k mining xp/hr and rarely got it.

 

 

 

P2P or F2P? Where did you powermine? Did you use mousekeys, which are available to everyone?

[Fools_Taco]

You have to hate yourself to level mining in its current incarnation. I wont touch it now that jagax is taking ideas from the player base for implementation. Making mining like fishing and woodcutting is one of the most requested changes from almost everyone i have met. Once they make it like fishing or woodcutting ill max it out.

 

 

 

Woodcutting and fishing were easy (thanks for the 50m and a skill cape) capes. I miss those. I still fish sometimes, it relaxes me.

[wcingisbad]

in f2p.

 

 

 

yews are good money. My friend(f2p) made a lot of money by wcing yews and many other people wc yews too. There are a lot of competition for yews so the money isnt that good but who said miners don't have competition??

 

 

 

You, do you have any idea of what you're talking about?!? Yews are horribly slow at 60, they're horribly slow at 70 and they only become somewhat decent after 80 woodcutting. You think you're ready to make cash fast and easy just because you have got 60 woodcutting? How shamefully naive you are. I'd suggest you make a thorought investigation on the matter, otherwise your arguments will not stand a chance.

 

 

 

The "yews are good for money" phrase is wrong. The correct one would be "Yews aren't really an amazing money-making way, but if you are a F2P fail mercher/pker, they may worth your time."