Imo homosexuality isn't wrong, just unnatural.

Just let him believe what he wants, you're acting like you want him to become aethist.

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

reason god doesnt control are minds is because he didnt want to make us robots he wanted us to know whats right and wrong and on of the wrongs is not doing sexual stuff with someone of the same gender so basicly its a sin so bea that you atheists.

 

 

 

Oh, by the way, Welcome to Tip.It OT. :lol:

 

 

 

I'd love to know this interview where 'god' said this stuff.

 

 

 

And if he wanted us to know 'right' from 'wrong', wouldn't he make us already know and agree to what they are when he 'created' us?

 

 

 

If he gave us the right to think, it's because we can be independent. I also want to know what's so wrong about gay marriage. Is marriage just about reproducing? No. I see no reason why there should be no gay marriage.

 

now time to go back to Genesis adam and eve why do you think were not perfect because god them a mind to do anything and when he told them not to eat that fruit they got told by the serpent to eat it and thay ended up not living forever and then jesus come to sacrifice him self for us and now were thinkin that god gave us a mind to be gay with other people.

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

I only criticize other religions when it encroaches on the rights and individual freedoms of others. For instance, homosexuality.

 

reason god doesnt control are minds is because he didnt want to make us robots he wanted us to know whats right and wrong and on of the wrongs is not doing sexual stuff with someone of the same gender so basicly its a sin so bea that you atheists.

 

 

 

Oh, by the way, Welcome to Tip.It OT. :lol:

 

 

 

I'd love to know this interview where 'god' said this stuff.

 

 

 

And if he wanted us to know 'right' from 'wrong', wouldn't he make us already know and agree to what they are when he 'created' us?

 

 

 

If he gave us the right to think, it's because we can be independent. I also want to know what's so wrong about gay marriage. Is marriage just about reproducing? No. I see no reason why there should be no gay marriage.

 

now time to go back to Genesis adam and eve why do you think were not perfect because god them a mind to do anything and when he told them not to eat that fruit they got told by the serpent to eat it and thay ended up not living forever and then jesus come to sacrifice him self for us and now were thinkin that god gave us a mind to be gay with other people.

 

The hell?

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

I only criticize other religions when it encroaches on the rights and individual freedoms of others. For instance, homosexuality.

 

ok range this be honest what religion are you to be exact

 

now time to go back to Genesis adam and eve why do you think were not perfect because god them a mind to do anything and when he told them not to eat that fruit they got told by the serpent to eat it and thay ended up not living forever and then jesus come to sacrifice him self for us and now were thinkin that god gave us a mind to be gay with other people.

 

 

 

Oh such a way with words. :notalk:

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

I only criticize other religions when it encroaches on the rights and individual freedoms of others. For instance, homosexuality.

 

ok range this be honest what religion are you to be exact

 

He like aethist, just like the other people in this thread that are critizing you.

 

reason god doesnt control are minds is because he didnt want to make us robots he wanted us to know whats right and wrong and on of the wrongs is not doing sexual stuff with someone of the same gender so basicly its a sin so bea that you atheists.

 

god hates people who don't use interpunction and proper grammar. And god hates people who think that homosexuality is bad. And god hates the fact that you play RS. And god probably wants you to GTFO this thread.

 

 

 

Ya god is a hater.

why do men have penises and girls have vigina's. and how come when a man has sex with a women it results in creating a human been.and if a men were to have sex with a another man would that happen nope its just be soemthing gross happening there

 

 

 

Like I said, marriage isn't only about having sex. What is so wrong about being homosexual?

 

 

 

Some people naturally are attracted to the same sex. So I guess god made them be that way, right? :roll:

 

 

 

Anyways, I THOUGH GOD LOVED EVERYONE. :cry:

 

ok range this be honest what religion are you to be exact

 

I am of a religion that doesn't persecute people for what some see as "flaws". I am of a religion that leaves people's personal lives alone. I am of a religion that never tells people that they "aren't good enough" or that they need to "change their evil ways".

I would say something right now but i would probaly offend most of you who suppurt it.

 

 

 

anyways, being gay is not the way to go why cant people just be straight. well i would slap my kid across the face if he said he was gay because if god wanted us to be with the same sex how come he made a male and female.

 

Well, considering god doesn't exist, I don't see how your argument is relevant.

 

you dont even have proof that god doesnt exist what are you atheist or something

 

And can you prove that he does exist? If he is atheist, that's his decision, and you should accept it.

 

also, with homosexuality, it has nothing to do with what god wanted, look back in the middle ages when being left handed was thought to be a trait of the devil, it could be said it's the same thing with homosexuality, and the reason you think it's gross is because your ignorant, and you don't even know the basics of what causes homosexuality, or understand it at all.

 

If you're gonna post, at least try to back up what you're going to say, I'm not going to bother providing an actual post, justifying, and providing a decent argument against what you wrote, because you probably wouldn't learn from it, and you'd probably just ignore it and continue with your ignorant posts about how being gay is gross, and against what god said created.

 

Hitting your kid also would not help the fact that he was gay, you shouldn't hit someone for being gay. and to address your saying it'd be gross to see two guys making out with each other, I personally find most forms of public affection to be kind of stupid, and I'd prefer not to see people making out in public in general. no matter what sexuality they might be.

 

 

 

this post pretty much got said multiple times within the two minutes it took me to write it.

 

It took me three times hitting submit before it actually worked.

 

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

I only criticize other religions when it encroaches on the rights and individual freedoms of others. For instance, homosexuality.

 

ok range this be honest what religion are you to be exact

 

His religion shouldn't have any affect on the discussion.

Just let him believe what he wants, you're acting like you want him to become aethist.

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

If atheism is a religion, then not believing in a specific god is a religion.

 

Then a Christian, who only believes in one god, has another religion for each god he doesn't believe in.

 

 

 

Mustang, again, why do you believe in god. answer me.

 

god hates people who don't use interpunction and proper grammar. And god hates people who think that homosexuality is bad. And god hates the fact that you play RS. And god probably wants you to GTFO this thread.

 

 

 

Ya god is a hater.

 

Hahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just let him believe what he wants, you're acting like you want him to become aethist.

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

 

 

localguy's church of Atheism? :lol:

Just let him believe what he wants, you're acting like you want him to become aethist.

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

If atheism is a religion, then not believing in a specific god is a religion.

 

Then a Christian, who only believes in one god, has another religion for each god he doesn't believe in.

 

 

 

Mustang, again, why do you believe in god. answer me.

 

sorry didnt know you told me to answer something

 

ok if you ever read a bible it says that jesus came down to earth to spread the word of Christianity down to earth since it was dying out he told about god.and what about Noah and Moises everbody knows those storys

I would say something right now but i would probaly offend most of you who suppurt it.

 

 

 

anyways, being gay is not the way to go why cant people just be straight. well i would slap my kid across the face if he said he was gay because if god wanted us to be with the same sex how come he made a male and female.

 

Well, considering god doesn't exist, I don't see how your argument is relevant.

 

Let him believe what he wants.

 

 

 

But, anyways. If this 'god' created people, couldn't he just be able to make their ability to think to be straight? I doubt it. It seems if god is real, then he made us have the ability to think for a reason. To choose what we want to do.

 

 

 

And, I find PDA very odd anyways. I don't wanna see a guy and a girl flat out making out in the middle of the street. It wouldn't be any different for a gay couple.

 

reason god doesnt control are minds is because he didnt want to make us robots he wanted us to know whats right and wrong and on of the wrongs is not doing sexual stuff with someone of the same gender so basicly its a sin so bea that you atheists.

 

 

 

Sorry to say this, but you're an absolute moron.

 

 

 

Not even because you believe in God. You're just a moron.

 

 

 

Have you thought through what you're saying? Can you please answer/show the following;

 

 

 

 

 

1. Euthryphro dilemma

 

2. Evidence for the Bible being the word of God in the first place

 

3. Inconsistencies in enforcing certain Biblical passages and not others.

 

4. Evidence to support the claim that an objective moral standard can only exist if we posit a God

 

5. Homosexuality occurs throughout nature so by the same reasoning God created homosexuality. This isn't a case of the whole stupid free will thing anyway because as shown thousands of times to you morons, homosexuality isn't a conscious choice.

 

6. Evidence for the existence of God

 

7. If *faith* or *the scientific method and/or reason not being applicable to the question of God's existence* is the answer to 6, how this has any place in the laws of an officially secular country deemed so by the first amendment of the constitution.

 

8. Justification for allowing the Church to discriminate based on genetic traits and how this differs to the anti-miscegenation laws other than the fact that most people don't consider the denying of gays the right to marry as unconstitutional.

 

 

 

When you've answered these maybe we'll start listening to you

One of my daughters was in the workplace one day, and her particular workplace at that moment in time, there were a whole bunch of conservative, older men. And those guys were talking about gay marriage. They were talking about discussions going on across the country. And my daughter Kate, after listening for about 20 minutes, said to them: 'You guys don't understand. You've already lost. My generation doesn't care.' I think I learned something from my daughter that day, when she said that. And Ive talked with other people about it and that's what I see, Senator McKinley. I see a bunch of people that merely want to profess their love for each other, and want state law to recognize that. Is that so wrong? I don't think that's so wrong. As a matter of fact, last Friday night, I hugged my wife. You know I've been married for 37 years. I hugged my wife. I felt like our love was just a little more meaningful last Friday night because thousands of other Iowa citizens could hug each other and have the state recognize their love for each other. No, Senator McKinley, I will not co-sponsor a leadership bill with you.

 

 

 

 

sorry didnt know you told me to answer something

 

ok if you ever read a bible it says that jesus came down to earth to spread the word of Christianity down to earth since it was dying out he told about god.and what about Noah and Moises everbody knows those storys

 

 

 

You believe in god because you read it? Wow, so I guess Animorphs are real too. nowai!

Just let him believe what he wants, you're acting like you want him to become aethist.

 

This is why I consider Atheism a religion :lol:

 

Some followers try to convert others just like any other...

 

If atheism is a religion, then not believing in a specific god is a religion.

 

Then a Christian, who only believes in one god, has another religion for each god he doesn't believe in.

 

 

 

Mustang, again, why do you believe in god. answer me.

 

sorry didnt know you told me to answer something

 

ok if you ever read a bible it says that jesus came down to earth to spread the word of Christianity down to earth since it was dying out he told about god.and what about Noah and Moises everbody knows those storys

 

still not proving it, just because a book says something, doesn't mean it's true.

 

I could write a book write now saying that their are 30892 gods that are all little pieces of chicken floating around in a bucket of gasoline.

 

harry potter doesn't exist, but from the way your saying it, if it's in a book, it must be true. And who's to say that the bible itself wasn't just a novel or a bunch of books some people made a couple thousand years ago just to try to start a religion and to attempt to have a power other than one in form of government.

 

not to mention the fact the bible contradicts itself multiple times throughout it.

Stop. Thinking. Of. God. In. The. Way. The. Bible. Describes. It.

 

 

 

 

 

Now.

 

sorry didnt know you told me to answer something

 

ok if you ever read a bible it says that jesus came down to earth to spread the word of Christianity down to earth since it was dying out he told about god.and what about Noah and Moises everbody knows those storys

 

 

 

You believe in god because you read it? Wow, so I guess Animorphs are real too. nowai!

 

I'M GOING TO FORKS, WASHINGTON TO SEE SOME SPARKLY VAMPIRES!

Chill the [bleep] out guys, seriously. He's like twelve, he has no idea about his own beliefs. I formed my own beliefs less than a year ago, plus they're still evolving and changing constantly. If you can find me a twelve year old who has fully found their own beliefs, can explain them enough to satisfy themselves, monkeys will fly out of my [wagon]. I don't think there's a single person here who can do that. He might be broadcasting his ignorance, but plenty of adults do it on a larger level.

Chill the [bleep] out guys, seriously. He's like twelve, he has no idea about his own beliefs. I formed my own beliefs less than a year ago, plus they're still evolving and changing constantly. If you can find me a twelve year old who has fully found their own beliefs, can explain them enough to satisfy themselves, monkeys will fly out of my [wagon]. I don't think there's a single person here who can do that. He might be broadcasting his ignorance, but plenty of adults do it on a larger level.

 

there are quite a few 12 year old tiffers who are smart, and mature enough to be able to do that.

 

also, at eleven I'd figured out my religious views fully, and was able to explain them, decently. not as well as I could now. but still.

 

and take a video when the monkeys fly out please?

Lets not get into the whole existence of God debate.

 

 

 

But mustang, from the way you type and the way your sentences are structured, as well as the terrible content of what you're actually saying, I think you might have some sort of mild mental [developmentally delayed]ation.

 

 

 

Not even joking here, your arguments are absolutely ridiculous and have no place in any sort of intelligent discussion on any matter whatsoever.

 

 

 

You can call me arrogant if you like, and to be honest I usually don't attack the intelligence of people so viciously, but you really have no idea what you're talking about.

 

 

 

It's because of people like you that all the secular humanists dismiss every religious person as an idiot. (which they aren't)

 

 

 

Just shut up.

 

 

 

Also, I'd just like to remind everyone that these people that call themselves "conservatives" who are typically against gay marriage, are mostly neo conservatives who are actually only social conservatives considering they don't believe in the ideas of freedom (suspension of habeas corpus, patriot act) and the free market, which in turn makes them authoritarian douche bags.

 

 

 

I'm not a conservative myself but there is a certain stigma against the term, which I can understand is frustrating for those actual conservatives, who are typically libertarians and constitutionalists, who are generally much more intelligent than the neo con bible bashers.