Mining to 85 by powermining iron

[noble_aloof]

it's not like i flamed the guy. i added in my own personal experiences, methods and exp rates

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[kdb148]

If you turn off autoretaliate, the hobgoblin attacks don't stop you from mining. You can bring some cheap armor to withstand their attacks until they stop being aggressive.

 

 

 

I wouldn't advise powermining at level 41, though. You don't 1-hit iron often enough at that level, which will make it much slower XP, and virtually impossible to fight off competition that is also trying to powermine. You're better off mining & banking until level 60 or so. Try iron in E. Varrock - which is also a good place to powermine if you are only going to use 2 rocks. You can also get silver there.

[Zaaps1]

@Noble

 

 

 

I didn't say you did. I said that people who tell him that "you're wasting your time" or "mining sucks don't do it" have no right to say so.

 

 

 

[hide=]

This is the help and advice forum. This is not convert-others-to-your-method-of-playing forum. While it's true that mining takes up a lot of time, esp. in f2p, and that he could be doing other things, it is NOT your job to tell him what or what not to do.

 

 

 

He may not find powermining fun, but the reward is 100% worth the effort. Sure it's just a game. But if he decides that playing the game to achieve his goals is the way to have fun, who are YOU to say that he can't do that? If he decides to set 85 mining is f2p as his goal, who are YOU to say that he's wasting his time? If he's doing what he wants to, he isn't wasting his time, and it's NOT your job as a Help and Advice poster to tell him how to play the game.

 

 

 

So just because YOU wouldn't powermine to 85, doesn't mean that he shouldn't. Your job is to give him raw numbers and your opinion of which method is best, if there is a calculation involved. That's it. Your job is only to inform him. I think he is perfectly capable of deciding what he wants to do. You aren't his parents. If he wants to ask for your opinion of whether 85 mining is worth the effort or not, he would've said so.

 

 

 

Agreed. And from what I have noticed, as I am currently going for the same goal, there tend to be quite a bit of people that go to rimmington mine in F2P. I tend to find myself spending more time world hopping than I do mining, unless I'm on a world with close to no people. Which then, the ores spawn to slowly for my liking.

 

 

 

So just watch out at this mine, as your mining xp gain could be dramatically slowed.

 

 

 

On the topic of the best mine: the surefire way to insure no one is mining with you is to go to Hobgoblins. It's actually considerably safer on a PvP (but not BH) world than on a normal world (Revs). Sure there's only like 700 people on a world, but there are 4 rocks, not 3. So if you mine 4 and drop 4, you'll be fine.

 

 

 

In case you want to know, the best way to pmine is this:

 

 

 

Either mine 3 or 4 ores, then drop those 3 or 4. It's simply faster and also allows you to keep the stuff you get from randoms, such as gems. You could even try mine 2 drop 2, but it's a lot harder since you need more people in a world, plus it's slower.

 

 

 

The optimal people per world follows:

 

 

 

M2, D2: 1900-full

 

M3, D3: 1400+

 

M4, D4: 800+

 

 

 

That's assuming you've master the dropping technique. If not, you could settle for even less people per world. I was doing M3, D3 when I pmined to 85 (also f2p). In the beginning, 800 people per world suited me fine, but after around 80 mining, I was good enough to work perfectly at 1.4k people. Perhaps you can go even higher and get even more xp, but for me those were the optimal amounts, so that's all I can vouch for.[/hide]

 

 

 

Very good tip. But do you think that the hobgoblins periodic attacks would cause you to lack in the xp gaining department?

 

 

 

As mentioned above, with auto-retal. off, you can mine without interruption. Just bring 10 or so tuna and you're set for a few hours, at least. The hobgoblins take care of most pkers long enough for you to log (yes, they do).

[De_Lille_D]

Don't try and go for 85 mining, you will most probably give up and will have wasted hours of your time for nothing. Instead train a skill which gives you cash NOW rather than at a certain level.

 

I disagree: 91 RC is awesome, definitely worth getting! 85 Mining on the other hand ... not so great money maker.

[Cptbaker08]

Don't try and go for 85 mining, you will most probably give up and will have wasted hours of your time for nothing. Instead train a skill which gives you cash NOW rather than at a certain level.

 

I disagree: 91 RC is awesome, definitely worth getting! 85 Mining on the other hand ... not so great money maker.

 

Seeing as you have neither, i don't see how your opinion will matter much. Both are awesome money makers. 91 RC has a higher rate of money, but it also takes long to get to and the ways to obtain it are somewhat on the slow side.

[fja3omega]

Yeah! Dont say stuff that discourage people. Mining Rocks! So to speak. I usually mine until I level up then I rest for a bit. Dont forget to stretch yourself every hour or two because it will help relieve the tension.

[De_Lille_D]

Don't try and go for 85 mining, you will most probably give up and will have wasted hours of your time for nothing. Instead train a skill which gives you cash NOW rather than at a certain level.

 

I disagree: 91 RC is awesome, definitely worth getting! 85 Mining on the other hand ... not so great money maker.

 

Seeing as you have neither, i don't see how your opinion will matter much. Both are awesome money makers. 91 RC has a higher rate of money, but it also takes long to get to and the ways to obtain it are somewhat on the slow side.

 

Why do I need to have a certain skill, to know if it's a good moneymaker? People have timed it and 85 Mining is about 800k/hour max. 91 Rc is over 1-1.2 M/hour

 

 

 

=> Rc is way better, no matter my skills

[z0diark]

This is the help and advice forum. This is not convert-others-to-your-method-of-playing forum. While it's true that mining takes up a lot of time, esp. in f2p, and that he could be doing other things, it is NOT your job to tell him what or what not to do.

 

 

 

He may not find powermining fun, but the reward is 100% worth the effort. Sure it's just a game. But if he decides that playing the game to achieve his goals is the way to have fun, who are YOU to say that he can't do that? If he decides to set 85 mining is f2p as his goal, who are YOU to say that he's wasting his time? If he's doing what he wants to, he isn't wasting his time, and it's NOT your job as a Help and Advice poster to tell him how to play the game.

 

 

 

So just because YOU wouldn't powermine to 85, doesn't mean that he shouldn't. Your job is to give him raw numbers and your opinion of which method is best, if there is a calculation involved. That's it. Your job is only to inform him. I think he is perfectly capable of deciding what he wants to do. You aren't his parents. If he wants to ask for your opinion of whether 85 mining is worth the effort or not, he would've said so.

 

I don't know about you but in my runescape career I've heard countless people say "I'm going for 85 mining". Of all of these people, about 85% of people give up before they reach 85 mining. I suggested that he shouldn't attempt to get it because going on probability he is most likely to give up before he reaches his goal. Personally, mining is one of my favourite skills but when looking at someone who has 41 mining, aiming for 85 in a short space of time is a very difficult goal. Therefore I suggested against it.

 

 

 

I hope that he does manage to reach his goal but looking at the statistics, it is an unlikely goal and so I gave him advice and suggested against it.

 

 

 

Good luck purewc, I hope you make it :thumbup:

[fja3omega]

Wow that's nice statistical information. But it still means squat to a person if he is persistent enough. I don't know about you but if you set a goal at least you will have one. This is place is for HELP and ADVICE for anyone. HELP purewc to attain his goal and ADVICE purewc on how to do it. If he wants to stop mining it's up to him not up to us. Good luck to everyone with really big goals in RUNESCAPE.

[Skeptical]

If Rimmington is not busy, its great. Otherwise, get members.

[Zaaps1]

85 mining doesn't trail THAT far behind 91 rc, though it is less money.

 

 

 

This is the help and advice forum. This is not convert-others-to-your-method-of-playing forum. While it's true that mining takes up a lot of time, esp. in f2p, and that he could be doing other things, it is NOT your job to tell him what or what not to do.

 

 

 

He may not find powermining fun, but the reward is 100% worth the effort. Sure it's just a game. But if he decides that playing the game to achieve his goals is the way to have fun, who are YOU to say that he can't do that? If he decides to set 85 mining is f2p as his goal, who are YOU to say that he's wasting his time? If he's doing what he wants to, he isn't wasting his time, and it's NOT your job as a Help and Advice poster to tell him how to play the game.

 

 

 

So just because YOU wouldn't powermine to 85, doesn't mean that he shouldn't. Your job is to give him raw numbers and your opinion of which method is best, if there is a calculation involved. That's it. Your job is only to inform him. I think he is perfectly capable of deciding what he wants to do. You aren't his parents. If he wants to ask for your opinion of whether 85 mining is worth the effort or not, he would've said so.

 

I don't know about you but in my runescape career I've heard countless people say "I'm going for 85 mining". Of all of these people, about 85% of people give up before they reach 85 mining. I suggested that he shouldn't attempt to get it because going on probability he is most likely to give up before he reaches his goal. Personally, mining is one of my favourite skills but when looking at someone who has 41 mining, aiming for 85 in a short space of time is a very difficult goal. Therefore I suggested against it.

 

 

 

I hope that he does manage to reach his goal but looking at the statistics, it is an unlikely goal and so I gave him advice and suggested against it.

 

 

 

Good luck purewc, I hope you make it :thumbup:

 

 

 

What are you saying then?

 

 

 

"I told him what he wanted to know, but still said he was wasting his time"? Of course 85 mining is hard. Everyone knows that, and you don't need to point it out. Maybe all those people who didn't make it gave up because they weren't supported enough and everyone around them impressed the idea that 85 mining was impossible, not because they personally were not capable. Every single one of my friends who have tried for 85 HAVE gotten 85, and that's not just 1 or 2.

 

 

 

And just because you are offering advice, doesn't mean it is the right kind of advice. Your job isn't to tell him what he can or can't do. Your job is to tell him the info, or in cases of efficiency, the best alternate method. Telling him that he is unlikely to get it is, simply put, obnoxious. You don't have the right to say he is unlikely to get it. You can't justify putting someone down like that.

 

 

 

Of course it'll be hard. You should tell people their goal will be hard, but let THEM decide if it's "impossible" or not. Plenty of people told me, at 60 mining, that getting 85 was going to be impossible. That's why I quit at 70. But I picked up after and was determined, and I got it. If you take away the determination, then OF COURSE he won't get 85, and it isn't your job to take away that determination.

 

 

 

41-85 in about 1 week will be challenging. Extremely challenging. But does that justify you saying, "Oh, you're wasting your time, don't do it"? No. Even if you had enough evidence to prove that he would give up (which you don't), you still cannot say that. It's like your parents going up to you and saying, "You won't get anywhere in life because you're too dumb. You could, but it'll be extremely difficult. I don't want you to suffer, so I'm just going to make you give up now."

[IeatWindex]

This is the help and advice forum. This is not convert-others-to-your-method-of-playing forum. While it's true that mining takes up a lot of time, esp. in f2p, and that he could be doing other things, it is NOT your job to tell him what or what not to do.

 

 

 

He may not find powermining fun, but the reward is 100% worth the effort. Sure it's just a game. But if he decides that playing the game to achieve his goals is the way to have fun, who are YOU to say that he can't do that? If he decides to set 85 mining is f2p as his goal, who are YOU to say that he's wasting his time? If he's doing what he wants to, he isn't wasting his time, and it's NOT your job as a Help and Advice poster to tell him how to play the game.

 

 

 

So just because YOU wouldn't powermine to 85, doesn't mean that he shouldn't. Your job is to give him raw numbers and your opinion of which method is best, if there is a calculation involved. That's it. Your job is only to inform him. I think he is perfectly capable of deciding what he wants to do. You aren't his parents. If he wants to ask for your opinion of whether 85 mining is worth the effort or not, he would've said so.

 

Truly couldve of been said better.

[hihihi727]

I got up to level 57 mining, until realising that at my pace, it would take 5 months to get 85 mining so i kinda gave up, especially once i became a member and there were better ways to earn money- like melee!!

[De_Lille_D]

I got up to level 57 mining, until realising that at my pace, it would take 5 months to get 85 mining so i kinda gave up, especially once i became a member and there were better ways to earn money- like melee!!

 

You gotta take into account that by getting higher levels, you'll higher the amount of xp per hour you can get.

 

If you're level 3, it'll take you a long time before you get the 50k xp needed for level 43, but at level 90 you can easily get 50k xp per hour ...

[Zaaps1]

I got up to level 57 mining, until realising that at my pace, it would take 5 months to get 85 mining so i kinda gave up, especially once i became a member and there were better ways to earn money- like melee!!

 

 

 

But if that was in the past, rune ores were only 10k each. But now they're like 17k each. I can easily make 700k an hour if I chose to at the Light Temple + familiar method.

 

 

 

So the only combat method that would top it would be bosses. My stats are good and I have the money for any boss in RS, but my personality simply prefers skills, so that's a choice I made (to rely on mining for money, not GWD or DKS, etc.).