88 Summoning.

[gorgoroth]

I'm interrested in getting 88 Summoning when i eventually have the money. I'll only want to use Crimson Charms as they are the best vallue for money. I have just short of 2K of them atm. How much more will i need? I couldnt find a decent calculator anywhere. Can someone link me to one? Also, aside from Waterfiends, whats the next best crimson dropper? I'm pretty sure getting a large ammount of Charms at Fiends is going to be a boring task so i'll want a few alternatives. Thanx in advance :)

 

 

 

EDIT: Is there any reason i should even go beyond 88 Summoning?

[Inuashakent]

Make sure you pick up all charms while you're hunting for Crimsons. And Waterfiends and Rock lobsters both work very well, although Scarabites could work. They're a bit faster than Rock lobsters but far more expensive. Waterfiends aren't as boring as most think... or it wasn't for me.

 

 

 

And the Tip calculator works perfectly fine. I would use it in conjunction with the planner, although I'm sure there are special calculators that do everything for you... I just don't know what they are.

[gorgoroth]

Make sure you pick up all charms while you're hunting for Crimsons. And Waterfiends and Rock lobsters both work very well, although Scarabites could work. They're a bit faster than Rock lobsters but far more expensive. Waterfiends aren't as boring as most think... or it wasn't for me.

 

 

 

And the Tip calculator works perfectly fine. I would use it in conjunction with the planner, although I'm sure there are special calculators that do everything for you... I just don't know what they are.

 

Should i stick with making Stranger Plants till 88? Or should i keep on doing the best i can? Money wont be that much of an issue as i can easily make it with Aviansies, GWD, etc. And yeah Waterfiends arent THAT bad, i just think 10k + of them might bore me.

 

 

 

EDIT: According to the Tip.it Calculator i need 13 201 Crimson Charms for 88 Summoning making only Stranger Plants. I already have 1984 so that leaves me with a remaining 11 217 to get. Each Stranger Plant requires 1 Bagged Plant and 128 Shards.

 

 

 

128 * 13 201 = 1 689 728 Shards.

 

1 689 728 * 25 = 42 243 200gp

 

13 201 * 1 170gp = 15 445 170gp

 

 

 

42 243 200 + 15 445 170 = 57 688 370gp

 

 

 

So its going to cost me just short of 58Mil to get 88 Summoning if i dont switch my Pouches/Scrolls for Shards. Does this look right? Is this the best way of getting to 88?

[Lets_3ekout]

Why are you so intent on going with stranger plants? you should move onto granite lobs/swamp titans as soon as you can. 58mil doesn't sound right either, since level 1-99 is aprox ~75m (or so kent's guide says). I'm going for 88 right now aswell, and I counted that 82-88 should cost ~9m. Remember that trading pouches in saves enourmous amounts of money.

 

 

 

I know what you mean about getting bored of fiends - dust devils, nechs and black demons are all nice breaks from the fiends grinding. Try scarabite cannoning if you can, be very carefull though, I almost died w/ 99 def last time I did it.

 

 

 

As for going past 88 summoning, there's plenty of great summons - personally I plan on going to 89 since I've heard great things about geysers. Plenty of good stuff left if you have the money the continue.

[gorgoroth]

Why are you so intent on going with stranger plants? you should move onto granite lobs/swamp titans as soon as you can. 58mil doesn't sound right either, since level 1-99 is aprox ~75m (or so kent's guide says). I'm going for 88 right now aswell, and I counted that 82-88 should cost ~9m. Remember that trading pouches in saves enourmous amounts of money.

 

 

 

I know what you mean about getting bored of fiends - dust devils, nechs and black demons are all nice breaks from the fiends grinding. Try scarabite cannoning if you can, be very carefull though, I almost died w/ 99 def last time I did it.

 

 

 

As for going past 88 summoning, there's plenty of great summons - personally I plan on going to 89 since I've heard great things about geysers. Plenty of good stuff left if you have the money the continue.

 

Only reason im intent on using Stranger Plants is because they seem to be the best Exp. They will get me to 88 Faster than anything else. I'm really no pro at Summoning so if someone could help me out a bit whit what to make i would appreciate it. As for the 58Mil, thats when not swapping in any Pouches. You get 1/3 of the Shards used back right? Is it more? Or less? This will cut down costs alot.

 

 

 

If i may ask Philip, what is your plan from 69 - 88? what are you making/did you make?

[JoeDaStudd]

Only reason im intent on using Stranger Plants is because they seem to be the best Exp. They will get me to 88 Faster than anything else. I'm really no pro at Summoning so if someone could help me out a bit whit what to make i would appreciate it. As for the 58Mil, thats when not swapping in any Pouches. You get 1/3 of the Shards used back right? Is it more? Or less? This will cut down costs alot.

 

 

 

If i may ask Philip, what is your plan from 69 - 88? what are you making/did you make?

 

Granite lobsters are more exp and faster then stranger plants.

 

You get 70% of the shards back.

 

 

 

Not sure on the costs as it varies depending on your playing style.

[Lets_3ekout]

Yep, what Joe said. Stranger plants are good at 69 but at 74 swap over to granite lobs. Kent's summon guide (in AoW) has a nice list of what summons to create at which level.

 

 

 

As a heads up, swamp lizards are a pain in the [wagon] to buy right now, and will be over the next few days. 2lum CC merch clan plans out merching them from 1k-->10kea and dumping. If they follow through with it that could be a long time... Although that shouldn't matter if you're 69 now.

[gorgoroth]

Only reason im intent on using Stranger Plants is because they seem to be the best Exp. They will get me to 88 Faster than anything else. I'm really no pro at Summoning so if someone could help me out a bit whit what to make i would appreciate it. As for the 58Mil, thats when not swapping in any Pouches. You get 1/3 of the Shards used back right? Is it more? Or less? This will cut down costs alot.

 

 

 

If i may ask Philip, what is your plan from 69 - 88? what are you making/did you make?

 

Granite lobsters are more exp and faster then stranger plants.

 

You get 70% of the shards back.

 

 

 

Not sure on the costs as it varies depending on your playing style.

 

 

 

So if i get 70% of the Shards back i can shave a 70% of the total cost of shrads. That means:

 

 

 

57 688 370gp * 70% = 40 381 859gp.

 

 

 

57 688 370gp - 40 381 859 = 17 306 511gp.

 

 

 

So already its starting to look much better. I'm sure that making Granite Lobsters will take that number down even more right?

[gorgoroth]

Yep, what Joe said. Stranger plants are good at 69 but at 74 swap over to granite lobs. Kent's summon guide (in AoW) has a nice list of what summons to create at which level.

 

 

 

As a heads up, swamp lizards are a pain in the [wagon] to buy right now, and will be over the next few days. 2lum CC merch clan plans out merching them from 1k-->10kea and dumping. If they follow through with it that could be a long time... Although that shouldn't matter if you're 69 now.

 

yeah should not really be of much worry to me now. I intend to get 99 Ranged, 99 Mage and 90 Prayer first. I might oly get 88 Summoning in a month or two, just want to plan things out so long. How much money is needed etc.

[JoeDaStudd]

Well granite lobsters give more exp.

 

The downside is they use more shards, but the seconds are only 10% of the cost and you can take a 5kg block and simply trade back the pouches then chisel more 500g blocks and repeat.

 

So yes there much better even if your running the plants yourself.

 

 

 

EDIT looks like I'll be catching some swamp lizards for the next few days at over 50k per trip sounds like it should be good money and hunting exp

[Aslan]

http://users.telenet.be/glodenox/Charms ... ttern.html

 

Use this for the MOST xp(not the best) you can get.If the 2nd is too expensive/hard to get EDIT POUCHES->and search for the summon.Where it says SOMETIMES pick NEVER and it should dissapear from the list.

[gorgoroth]

http://users.telenet.be/glodenox/Charms/CharmPattern.html

 

Use this for the MOST xp(not the best) you can get.If the 2nd is too expensive/hard to get EDIT POUCHES->and search for the summon.Where it says SOMETIMES pick NEVER and it should dissapear from the list.

 

Yessss this is what i wanted. 18mil and 11k Crimsons looks like the fastest/best way :)

[smobo]

Don't forget about other charms too. Golds cut the cost down, and aren't slow to use (I can still get almost 200k xp/hr cashing in golds), and blues are cheaper then crims, faster then crims, but unfortunately very rare. Your main focus should be crims, the bulk of your xp will be from that, but you should be picking up every charm.

 

 

 

EDIT: Is there any reason i should even go beyond 88 Summoning?

 

 

 

Geyser titan is when combat familiars start getting amazing. Plus, I personally think pack yak is better overall then unicorn.

[Cptbaker08]

 

EDIT: Is there any reason i should even go beyond 88 Summoning?

 

 

 

Geyser titan is when combat familiars start getting amazing. Plus, I personally think pack yak is better overall then unicorn.

 

As stated the Geyser titan and Pack Yak are great familiars to have. The iron/steel titans also have awesome specs when used with a slayer helm. Great for tasks that you pray on. Also the wolpentinger is great in the chaos tunnels due to them taking such a small area. For most slayer tasks unicorn is pretty much over kill on healing. Bunyips and the elemental titans work just fine. Places that a uni really only shine are bosses. Such as the gwd bosses, the Dag Kings, and even the Tormented Demons.

[gorgoroth]

 

EDIT: Is there any reason i should even go beyond 88 Summoning?

 

 

 

Geyser titan is when combat familiars start getting amazing. Plus, I personally think pack yak is better overall then unicorn.

 

As stated the Geyser titan and Pack Yak are great familiars to have. The iron/steel titans also have awesome specs when used with a slayer helm. Great for tasks that you pray on. Also the wolpentinger is great in the chaos tunnels due to them taking such a small area. For most slayer tasks unicorn is pretty much over kill on healing. Bunyips and the elemental titans work just fine. Places that a uni really only shine are bosses. Such as the gwd bosses, the Dag Kings, and even the Tormented Demons.

 

Yeah i plan on using them mainly for GWD. Should help me out alot at Arma and Bandos. It would come in handy at tasks like Black Demons too though and even at aviansies.