GF slash spec setup: What do you think the hit % is?

[Who]

Now the question is: Is 10% attack more accuracy than 27 more slash attack?

[demby123]

I see your max slash defense and raise you a max slash attack setup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see, its about 1/3 of the bonus.

 

 

 

Taking into consideration these factors:

 

- Have 99 Attack

 

- HAVE DRANK A SUPER ATTACK

 

- Have Piety activated

 

- Void Melee's 10% attack bonus

 

 

 

Percentage-wise, no bloody clue. :lol:

 

I heard zammy brews taste better ;)

[brunokiller]

I wouldn't guess it would be very high. But I hardly think anyone would want to ruch a guy with all that defence.

 

Bruno definitely would, he rushed anybody

 

 

 

I rushed my friend sparky1_2007 a few times(he asked) while he was in vesta's.

 

 

 

Didn't hit anything decent, but it was a small sample anyways.

[wolfmon56]

I wouldn't guess it would be very high. But I hardly think anyone would want to ruch a guy with all that defence.

 

Bruno definitely would, he rushed anybody

 

 

 

I rushed my friend sparky1_2007 a few times(he asked) while he was in vesta's.

 

 

 

Didn't hit anything decent, but it was a small sample anyways.

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen 46's hit with vestas and whip so ya... lol

[Outsanity]

So you're spending ~2m+/hr just to tank? That's pretty pointless considering you are going to splash every time with mage and while zurial has decent melee stats, you won't find me paying 400k/hr for it.

 

 

 

These threads are just silly TBH, whos ever going to go out in this stuff? and whos going to bother attacking for more than 5 rounds of 0's from both sides? Yes you can theoreticly have insane defence, but who cares if it's not practical :? This reminds me of when construction came out and everyone was theorizing what the xp/hr could be from creating steel dragons @ 10m per ~3k xp.

 

 

 

 

 

rofl, i love idiotic flamers.

 

Cute. Have a definition for flaming --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)

 

 

 

First of all, the reason i have the staff is because it has +7 to slash def! I never said anything about maging in this gear, or even fighting back! And i said that i was just playing around with equipment.

 

And i created the best slash defence. And wanted to get a general idea of what the defence would be!

 

Still pointless. Still no discussion value. Maybe one day someone will go out to test it, give you a figure, what then? /thread

 

 

 

It's not up to you to decide when the thread is ended. You are not the creator of the thread, nor a mod so I suggest you drop the super mod facade. :roll:

 

 

 

I love finding these kinds of things out. I had no idea such defense to slash could even be achieved. It would actually be really funny seeing Pjers rushing someone in this setup only to find out that 3/4 of their dclaw specials aren't doing any damage. lol.

[Lets_3ekout]

It's not up to you to decide when the thread is ended. You are not the creator of the thread, nor a mod so I suggest you drop the super mod facade. :roll:

 

 

 

I love finding these kinds of things out. I had no idea such defense to slash could even be achieved. It would actually be really funny seeing Pjers rushing someone in this setup only to find out that 3/4 of their dclaw specials aren't doing any damage. lol.

 

Firstly, I did not try to "end" the thread when I said "/thread". What I meant was that once someone gives an accurate figure the thread has lost all meaning and discussion.

 

Secondly, if you think I'm a wannabe mod, think again. I've been a TIF mod, and I am a pmod, so I could really give less about every idiot running around shouting "WBM@@@". If I wanted to actually end threads, I wouldn't have retired.

 

 

 

FYI, I'm only continuing arguing this because people people continue responding to me. I know some people are thinking I should give it a break, I think I agree, it isn't worth the attention.

[Zaaps1]

I see your max slash defense and raise you a max slash attack setup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see, its about 1/3 of the bonus.

 

 

 

Taking into consideration these factors:

 

- Have 99 Attack

 

- Have drank a Super Attack

 

- Have Piety activated

 

- Void Melee's 10% attack bonus

 

 

 

Percentage-wise, no bloody clue. :lol:

 

 

 

So let me see then.

 

 

 

The attack bonus is ~32% of the defense bonus. 466 defense vs 147 attack.

 

 

 

Now we can assume that the 99 attack and 99 defense cancel each other out. The super attack/sara brew also cancel each other out. However, piety and titan/void both favor defense.

 

 

 

Piety gives 25% percent to your defense, but only 20% to your attack. So it would actually be level 124 defense vs. 119 attack (before potting, which results in an equal level rise anyway, so it can be ignored). Now, does Void gives bonus to your level or to your item bonuses? I'll look at both.

 

 

 

If level: Add another 10% of 99 to the attack to make 129 attack level vs 124 defense level. Then take the 466 defense, add 15% to make 536 slash defense vs. 147 slash attack.

 

 

 

That means that it would be a fight between 129 attack +147 against 124 defense +536.

 

 

 

If item: Add 10% to the attack bonus for 119 attack +162 against 124 defense +536.

 

 

 

Now another split: does 1 item bonus = 1 level? I'm almost certain it doesn't, but IF it is:

 

 

 

If level: 276 attack v 660 defense: You'd be hit ~42% of the time

 

 

 

If item: 266 attack v 660 defense: You'd be hit ~40% of the time

[Maulmachine]

It's not up to you to decide when the thread is ended. You are not the creator of the thread, nor a mod so I suggest you drop the super mod facade. :roll:

 

 

 

I love finding these kinds of things out. I had no idea such defense to slash could even be achieved. It would actually be really funny seeing Pjers rushing someone in this setup only to find out that 3/4 of their dclaw specials aren't doing any damage. lol.

 

Firstly, I did not try to "end" the thread when I said "/thread". What I meant was that once someone gives an accurate figure the thread has lost all meaning and discussion.

 

Secondly, if you think I'm a wannabe mod, think again. I've been a TIF mod, and I am a pmod, so I could really give less about every idiot running around shouting "WBM@@@". If I wanted to actually end threads, I wouldn't have retired.

 

 

 

FYI, I'm only continuing arguing this because people people continue responding to me. I know some people are thinking I should give it a break, I think I agree, it isn't worth the attention.

 

Dude, this is sparking fairly decent discussion on how well a maximum slash defense bonus fairs against maxed slash bonuses. I don't really see how an exact statistic would end this thread at all, nor can I understand why the fact that you were a tif mod means you can tell when a discussion will end. Furthermore, the fact that you are a player moderator is no more than a petty statement which has no value here. I used to think you were quite a competent and nice player, sad to say I lost some respect for you.

 

 

 

On topic: I actually did test this with some slight modifications, I grabbed full vestas and a statius helm and I brought dragon claws along in a bh world. I decided to rush some players with just melee. When I let them hit me their hits very rarely effected me, I would say that only 3 people out of 15 hit me with godswords and their hits were not very high, and since my bonus was far from the maximum I think its quite likely that the percentage for hits is far lower than my previous guess.

[totalpwnage]

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I see your max slash defense and raise you a max slash attack setup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see, its about 1/3 of the bonus.

 

 

 

Taking into consideration these factors:

 

- Have 99 Attack

 

- Have drank a Super Attack

 

- Have Piety activated

 

- Void Melee's 10% attack bonus

 

 

 

Percentage-wise, no bloody clue. :lol:

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I raise your max slash setup

 

 

 

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Taking into consideration these factors:

 

- Have 99 Attack

 

- Have drank a Super Attack

 

- Have Piety activated

 

I raise your max slash setup again. Not only that, but this setup rips hard.

 

 

Zammy Brew, 99 Attack, Piety, attack style, and the fact that Vesta's Longsword spec hits almost every time -- at LEAST 50% of the time with spec, you'll hit. (I've used 15 for this exact reason)

 

 

 

Its probably higher than 50% too, I've hit 95% of the time on rune in just a rune defender + vls + glory for attack bonus, on a super att pot, piety, 99 att, and str style instead of attack. It. Freakin. Destroys.

[Outsanity]

It's not up to you to decide when the thread is ended. You are not the creator of the thread, nor a mod so I suggest you drop the super mod facade. :roll:

 

 

 

I love finding these kinds of things out. I had no idea such defense to slash could even be achieved. It would actually be really funny seeing Pjers rushing someone in this setup only to find out that 3/4 of their dclaw specials aren't doing any damage. lol.

 

Firstly, I did not try to "end" the thread when I said "/thread". What I meant was that once someone gives an accurate figure the thread has lost all meaning and discussion.

 

Secondly, if you think I'm a wannabe mod, think again. I've been a TIF mod, and I am a pmod, so I could really give less about every idiot running around shouting "WBM@@@". If I wanted to actually end threads, I wouldn't have retired.

 

 

 

FYI, I'm only continuing arguing this because people people continue responding to me. I know some people are thinking I should give it a break, I think I agree, it isn't worth the attention.

 

Dude, this is sparking fairly decent discussion on how well a maximum slash defense bonus fairs against maxed slash bonuses. I don't really see how an exact statistic would end this thread at all, nor can I understand why the fact that you were a tif mod means you can tell when a discussion will end. Furthermore, the fact that you are a player moderator is no more than a petty statement which has no value here. I used to think you were quite a competent and nice player, sad to say I lost some respect for you.

 

 

 

On topic: I actually did test this with some slight modifications, I grabbed full vestas and a statius helm and I brought dragon claws along in a bh world. I decided to rush some players with just melee. When I let them hit me their hits very rarely effected me, I would say that only 3 people out of 15 hit me with godswords and their hits were not very high, and since my bonus was far from the maximum I think its quite likely that the percentage for hits is far lower than my previous guess.

 

 

 

Exactly, Philip. The thread hasn't lost any discussion value. In fact, you're the only one so far that has responded negatively to the topic. Everyone else is actually very interested in the topic the original poster creasted.

 

 

 

Oh, and saying that your version of "/thread" means that someone gave an accurate figure is just meatless simply because you and I both know no one has given an accurate respresentation of the answer the author was seeking. The discussion is still going on. Truth be told, your words said it all. You thought the thread was crap and didn't see the point in discussing something that you believed "had no discussion value," but to the contrary, it has turned out many of us actually want to discuss it. If you don't feel the need to discuss it, then just don't post.

 

 

 

If you were a mod then you should know one of the most important rules of "If you have nothing to contribute, don't post at all."

[Squisher_33]

i raise max slash again.

 

 

 

figher hat?