No, its not easy

[Sir_Kurity]

I hate how most people are under the warped concept that if its buyable its easy!!!

 

 

 

No, its NOT easy, its NOT easy to get 100 mill, its NOT easy, trimmed armor is respected because its NOT easy to get money, 1000's of people flock to merchanting clans because its NOT easy to get money, holiday items are respected because... wait for it ... ITS NOT FREAKING EASY TO GET MONEY!!!

 

 

 

I just don't get why every skills not "respectable" if its buyable. But on the other hand, party hats and santa hats and other symbols of wealth are way respected.

 

 

 

Well, no need to reply, just needed to say that... idiots...

 

 

 

Edit: Just gotta clarify, im not talking about fletching and cooking, they are pretty cheap anyway.

[quelmotz]

Totally agreed. Totally.

 

 

 

The money is NOT buyable. So of course, the skill being buyable doesn't mean its not to be respected. Really stupid logic. Every 99 should be respected...regardless of how hard or easy it is. The person has still put in a lot of effort.

[langer]

it's not hard either, it just takes time.

 

 

 

There are near 100 000 players with 99 cooking. A couple years back, i was in the top 10 000 with 85 cooking, making money to get the "easy" skills to 99 is not that hard, it just takes time and dedication.

 

 

 

It's not the fact that it's buyable that makes it easy, the "easy" skills all have a combination of providing high xp rates, being relatively cheap (under 10 millions of investing money) and being afk-able (except firemaking).

 

 

 

I mean prayer is easy nowadays but it's not considered easy because it is expensive.

 

 

 

I don't have to respect someone because he/she has a 99 in a skill. I'll choose my own terms when decideing if someone is worthy of my respect.

[Salvette]

What would you need to do to get 99 Cooking if you didn't buy it? You'd need to do a lot of fishing, and your Fishing would be in the 90s, I would think. To get 99 Firemaking or Fletching, you would need to cut your own logs.

 

 

 

Try doing them both ways. Which is easier? That's right, it's buying them. Astoundingly easy. They why those skills aren't respected; very little effort or time has gone into them. Most of the time, they've just been bought.

[Guest]

I would like to oppose that.

 

 

 

Even if F2p I can make 40m in 2 weeks rune mining, it only takes time to get GP! not a large ammount of clicking which will also give you some discomfort....

 

In p2p I know there are monsters that drop items worth millions... all they have to do is wait, ohh i got a hawt drop *claims 40m*

 

 

 

However I do agree that when skills are going to cost exceedingly ammounts of money they will be harder than others. Fm and cooking for example are pretty cheap to get 99 (crafting as well if you know the right items). F2p prayer costs about 300m gp from 1-99, and I know in p2p fletching is easy & moneymaking and things like constructing are hard to get because they cost gp.

 

 

 

Thereby if you can merch and know the good items you can make millions without doing anything, just using the ge. I made 40m in 2 weeks by just using the right items and all I had to do was log in, set a price & log out.... (although I was also skilling then ;) )

 

 

 

I do have to agree that getting a buyable kill or a good item doesn't mean it's worthless it is just worth less (read it right ;) ) than getting a non buyable, and as I said getting 99 prayer in f2p is considered to be the worst skill, just by the fact that it costs zillions (and requires millions of clicks)

[D Jay99]

Maybe getting money isn't easy for you. There's a lot of people who are just very good at making money with gwd/rc/whatever, and who don't have that much difficulty accumulating a lot of money for a cape or something. If you're one of those people, it is easy.

 

 

 

I kinda fail at making money myself too, but that's mostly because I never really go out to make money.

[funnisam]

the more common 99s of buyable skills, tend to be of those cheap skills that have very fast xp gaining methods. This makes them EASY.

 

 

 

However there are major exceptions to this, such as; smithing, construction, crafting, which require large amounts of cash, and whilst although they also have major experience gains per hour, the consumables cost FAR more and have large gaps between cost and resell price (if the items made can even be resold, depending on which skill you talk about).

 

 

 

If you put effort into it, making money is ridiculously easy, for instance i started a week at 9 million gp, and within a week i had 35m. Without merching or joining manipulation clans. And without doing lots of gwd teams (i cant even do armadyl or saradomin) and i don't even have any high skill levels, for instance my highest non combat skill is 71 woodcutting.

 

 

 

Therefore making buyable skills easy to train.

[RayOxide]

What would you need to do to get 99 Cooking if you didn't buy it? You'd need to do a lot of fishing, and your Fishing would be in the 90s, I would think. To get 99 Firemaking or Fletching, you would need to cut your own logs.

 

 

 

Try doing them both ways. Which is easier? That's right, it's buying them. Astoundingly easy. They why those skills aren't respected; very little effort or time has gone into them. Most of the time, they've just been bought.

 

 

 

If you fish your own fish and cook them for 99 fishing then you're doing 2 activities:

 

Fishing

 

Cooking

 

 

 

If you buy 99 cooking, then fish to 93~ you're doing 3 activities:

 

Making money

 

Cooking

 

then Fishing.

 

 

 

Sometimes being Self-efficient works out.

[D Jay99]

What would you need to do to get 99 Cooking if you didn't buy it? You'd need to do a lot of fishing, and your Fishing would be in the 90s, I would think. To get 99 Firemaking or Fletching, you would need to cut your own logs.

 

 

 

Try doing them both ways. Which is easier? That's right, it's buying them. Astoundingly easy. They why those skills aren't respected; very little effort or time has gone into them. Most of the time, they've just been bought.

 

 

 

If you fish your own fish and cook them for 99 fishing then you're doing 2 activities:

 

Fishing

 

Cooking

 

 

 

If you buy 99 cooking, then fish to 93~ you're doing 3 activities:

 

Making money

 

Cooking

 

then Fishing.

 

 

 

Sometimes being Self-efficient works out.

 

Where's the factor time in that?

[RayOxide]

I dont know?

 

Why do I have to answer that? It's obviously correct for fishing. Especially at the tedious levels of Fishing and Cooking..

[D Jay99]

I dont know?

 

Why do I have to answer that? It's obviously correct for fishing. Especially at the tedious levels of Fishing and Cooking..

 

It might 'work out', but it's still going to cost you more time.

[RayOxide]

I dont see how.

 

Both skills get tedious at 80. Say you wanted 99 cooking and 95 fishing.

 

Would you fish and cook your fish or would you make money you needed, buy fish to cook, cook them then fish some?

 

I guess I'm extremely biased as to the "grinding is the best way to play this game" stuff though.

[langer]

Would you fish and cook your fish or would you make money you needed, buy fish to cook, cook them then fish some?

 

 

 

I'd say it's a matter of opinion...

 

Grinders will probably make the money and burn it for fast xp in cooking then fish the fastest way...

 

Casual players will probably fish what they want to cook.

 

 

 

The grinders will achieve both faster, but it's a matter of how you like to play the game.

 

I know i will never grind the skills like fishing by fly fishing or barb dropping; but it's how I play.

[RayOxide]

I dont grind either ;)

 

 

 

But at 80+ generally it would be best to fish monks, since fly = no cash.

 

Then cook them.

 

Doesnt really seem "slower" in logic.

[IeatWindex]

You have a good point, that money takes alot of time.

[langer]

I dont grind either ;)

 

 

 

But at 80+ generally it would be best to fish monks, since fly = no cash.

 

Then cook them.

 

Doesnt really seem "slower" in logic.

 

 

 

I also think it is best to fish and cook monks and that's what I do, but that's not the fastest way to get your fishing and cooking levels up. The difference is that the power grinder will end up with less cash than the casual player, but will achieve his goals faster. From that point on, it's mainly a matter of opinion and how you like to play the game.

[RayOxide]

I dont grind either ;)

 

 

 

But at 80+ generally it would be best to fish monks, since fly = no cash.

 

Then cook them.

 

Doesnt really seem "slower" in logic.

 

 

 

I also think it is best to fish and cook monks and that's what I do, but that's not the fastest way to get your fishing and cooking levels up. The difference is that the power grinder will end up with less cash than the casual player, but will achieve his goals faster. From that point on, it's mainly a matter of opinion and how you like to play the game.

 

 

 

Say both start with 80 fishing and cooking, and 1 mil gp each. Both want 99 cook and 95 fishing, along with 10M gp.

 

Who will achieve this faster?

[D Jay99]

I dont grind either ;)

 

 

 

But at 80+ generally it would be best to fish monks, since fly = no cash.

 

Then cook them.

 

Doesnt really seem "slower" in logic.

 

 

 

I also think it is best to fish and cook monks and that's what I do, but that's not the fastest way to get your fishing and cooking levels up. The difference is that the power grinder will end up with less cash than the casual player, but will achieve his goals faster. From that point on, it's mainly a matter of opinion and how you like to play the game.

 

 

 

Say both start with 80 fishing and cooking, and 1 mil gp each. Both want 99 cook and 95 fishing, along with 10M gp.

 

Who will achieve this faster?

 

The one 26k tricking, barb fishing (or fly fishing, idk which one is faster anymore) and cooking sharks from 85.

[Karvinen]

I dont grind either ;)

 

 

 

But at 80+ generally it would be best to fish monks, since fly = no cash.

 

Then cook them.

 

Doesnt really seem "slower" in logic.

 

 

 

I also think it is best to fish and cook monks and that's what I do, but that's not the fastest way to get your fishing and cooking levels up. The difference is that the power grinder will end up with less cash than the casual player, but will achieve his goals faster. From that point on, it's mainly a matter of opinion and how you like to play the game.

 

 

 

The powergrinder can use the time he saved for the most efficient way of making money. Most likely the powergrinder will get more XP and more money in the same amount of time than a self-sufficient player.

 

 

 

The most efficient way of training cooking is sharks, but it is not efficient for making money and training fishing.

[Sir_Kurity]

I would like to oppose that.

 

 

 

Even if F2p I can make 40m in 2 weeks rune mining, it only takes time to get GP! not a large ammount of clicking which will also give you some discomfort....

 

In p2p I know there are monsters that drop items worth millions... all they have to do is wait, ohh i got a hawt drop *claims 40m*

 

 

 

However I do agree that when skills are going to cost exceedingly ammounts of money they will be harder than others. Fm and cooking for example are pretty cheap to get 99 (crafting as well if you know the right items). F2p prayer costs about 300m gp from 1-99, and I know in p2p fletching is easy & moneymaking and things like constructing are hard to get because they cost gp.

 

 

 

Thereby if you can merch and know the good items you can make millions without doing anything, just using the ge. I made 40m in 2 weeks by just using the right items and all I had to do was log in, set a price & log out.... (although I was also skilling then ;) )

 

 

 

I do have to agree that getting a buyable kill or a good item doesn't mean it's worthless it is just worth less (read it right ;) ) than getting a non buyable, and as I said getting 99 prayer in f2p is considered to be the worst skill, just by the fact that it costs zillions (and requires millions of clicks)

 

 

 

Hey... How much do you play each week?

[Fools_Taco]

You are wrong, it is easy to get the money for a buyable skill. The longer you play the more money you make. I can make like 20m a week easy. From your stats you just arnt there yet. Keep playing you will get there. I can tell by your total you are at a frustrating point in this game were cash is hard to make. Trust me, its not always like that.

[Sir_Kurity]

20 mill a week.

 

 

 

Some of the buyable skills about 100 mill.

 

 

 

5 weeks, for a 99 + the time spent actually doing the skill.

 

 

 

Significantly harder than say, hunter.

[JimmyJTomson]

I hate when people talk crap about certain skills too. I got to 95 fletching back before all this cut x, string all, and cape nonsense. I didn't just click and wait, I clicked knife then log, knife then log, knife then log, a total of 27 times per invo. And then for stringing, click string then bow, string then bow, string then bow and finally to bank had to withdrawal "all strings" then bank "all bows" then withdrawal "all bows(u)." On top of that, I also cut some of my own logs and made some of my own nats to alch. So I take a long break and when I came back I wanted to finish what I started, a goal that I set long, long ago, to get 99 fletching, a skill that I enjoyed. Now all people care about are capes and then people look down on my cape because they think it's an easy skill. Fletching and cooking required attention and now they are "noob skills."

 

 

 

Uhg people make me mad :wall:

[Plugpoint]

Not easy, just easier.

[quelmotz]

Not easy, just easier.

 

 

 

False.

 

 

 

I don't know why so many idiots think a buyable skill is an easy skill. Money is NOT buyable, and its not THAT easy to earn money, especially in F2P.