Revenants

[tyluke]

This began a joyful occasion with the acquisition of my very first level 3 clue scroll

 

Recently I obtained a level 3 clue scroll from a lucky Ankou drop in the Security Stronghold.

 

After killing a Zam Priest in the wild (dying from revs) and numerous double agent fights and a particularly annoying troll puzzle. until I had additional fight in the wild (behind the chaos elemental castle. so I get there, luckily dodge the beast with few scratches and end up getting killed by 2 Revs. immediatly after with 4min to spare I dash off to arodongue, no time to spare. I tele near Mage arena and there same 2 Revs were there and killed me.

 

 

 

I lost a full initate armor, holy symbol, cape and my lvl 3 scroll. which in game may not be worth much but the effort was great #-o

 

 

 

my anger is based on why are Revs sooo overpowered, and why was there no one else for them to bother but me. I understand the necesity to keep the wildreness a dangerous place (or else it wouldnt be a level 3 scroll for nothing) but omg I didnt stand a chace, even with prayers and armor

[nicrune007]

They are not as powerful as the PKers they replaced. :

[3hitm4g3u]

They shouldn't be able to kill you twice in a row. That's stupid.

[K4M4X0]

revenants are just anoying >_

[funnisam]

wow another revenants are overpowered thread. -.- -.- -.-

 

 

 

Seriously, just use the best dragon hide armour you can along with an elemental shield and a glory amulet.... I've been jumped by several revs at the same time in F2P in rune and managed to get away from them. THEY ARE NOT OVERPOWERED. Seriously, you just need to realise that the only thing you need to do is get high magic defense gear on and pray range protect when you encounter them. Honestly. -.-

[lild]

your best bet is to put some d'hide armour on and get some decent food to aid you :thumbup:

[3hitm4g3u]

wow another revenants are overpowered thread. -.- -.- -.-

 

 

 

Seriously, just use the best dragon hide armour you can along with an elemental shield and a glory amulet.... I've been jumped by several revs at the same time in F2P in rune and managed to get away from them. THEY ARE NOT OVERPOWERED. Seriously, you just need to realise that the only thing you need to do is get high magic defense gear on and pray range protect when you encounter them. Honestly. -.-

 

 

 

I love seeing maxed melee people talking about how revs are not overpowered :thumbup: .

[funnisam]

wow another revenants are overpowered thread. -.- -.- -.-

 

 

 

Seriously, just use the best dragon hide armour you can along with an elemental shield and a glory amulet.... I've been jumped by several revs at the same time in F2P in rune and managed to get away from them. THEY ARE NOT OVERPOWERED. Seriously, you just need to realise that the only thing you need to do is get high magic defense gear on and pray range protect when you encounter them. Honestly. -.-

 

 

 

I love seeing maxed melee people talking about how revs are not overpowered :thumbup: .

 

 

 

Because revs aren't. Never died to a revenant at any level, never will.

 

 

 

Good preparation makes for not dieing :thumbup:

[3hitm4g3u]

wow another revenants are overpowered thread. -.- -.- -.-

 

 

 

Seriously, just use the best dragon hide armour you can along with an elemental shield and a glory amulet.... I've been jumped by several revs at the same time in F2P in rune and managed to get away from them. THEY ARE NOT OVERPOWERED. Seriously, you just need to realise that the only thing you need to do is get high magic defense gear on and pray range protect when you encounter them. Honestly. -.-

 

 

 

I love seeing maxed melee people talking about how revs are not overpowered :thumbup: .

 

 

 

Because revs aren't. Never died to a revenant at any level, never will.

 

 

 

Good preparation makes for not dieing :thumbup:

 

 

 

Go fight a rev knight in cheap (since you're only doing a clue scroll) gear and see how long you last.

[funnisam]

wow another revenants are overpowered thread. -.- -.- -.-

 

 

 

Seriously, just use the best dragon hide armour you can along with an elemental shield and a glory amulet.... I've been jumped by several revs at the same time in F2P in rune and managed to get away from them. THEY ARE NOT OVERPOWERED. Seriously, you just need to realise that the only thing you need to do is get high magic defense gear on and pray range protect when you encounter them. Honestly. -.-

 

 

 

I love seeing maxed melee people talking about how revs are not overpowered :thumbup: .

 

 

 

Because revs aren't. Never died to a revenant at any level, never will.

 

 

 

Good preparation makes for not dieing :thumbup:

 

 

 

Go fight a rev knight in cheap (since you're only doing a clue scroll) gear and see how long you last.

 

 

 

elemental shield - free

 

elemental helmet - free

 

Black dragonhide set - 16.8k

 

explorers ring - free

 

stronghold of security boots - free

 

amulet of magic - 474gp

 

 

 

coming to a grand total of 17.274k gp, cheap enough?

 

 

 

in fact i can't even use black dragon hide, so take that down to red for me, making the total around 15k.

[quelmotz]

I think revenants are kind of overpowered for F2P Players. Their armor usually does not give enough defense against the revenants. But then again, its amazingly easy to escape from revenants. I ran from a dark beast in near level 50 wilderness once, and all I had was a rune scimitar (was exploring the wilderness to get songs then). I saw a revenant knight, but ran before he attacked me. (or maybe I didn't have a high enough combat level for it to attack)

[funnisam]

Revenants are incredibly hard to kill in f2p by yourself, but why would you ever fight one by yourself? the loot is horrible, the amount of kills possible is horrible, the defense bonuses you get are horrible. The only thing you should do on F2P against revs when by yourself is run and get the rev stuck behind a tree, after a while they just disappear.

 

 

 

On P2P, it's EASIER to run away with the likes of super energy pots, etc. As well as the better food, lighter armour things such as spottier cape etc, the stronger armour with much better bonuses. How on earth can you FAIL to run from a revenant in P2P, unless you're a level 3 who somehow managed to get into level 50 wilderness?

[Sir_Kurity]

I think revs should at least count as killing a player :P.

[sadukar123]

They shouldn't be able to kill you twice in a row. That's stupid.

 

YEAH MAN, OLD TIME PKERS COULD SO NOT KILL YOU TWICE IN A ROW AT MAGE ARENA.

[Sir_Kurity]

Old pkers didn't have teleblock at low levels, freezing at low levels, incredible power at low levels.

 

 

 

Old pkers were not that same strength in f2p as they are in p2p.

 

 

 

Old pkers had a brain.

 

 

 

Old pkers could be killed for decent drops.

 

 

 

Old pkers ignored random explorers, and don't relentlessly chase something that will drop a few pieces of cake.

 

 

 

Old pkers RAN AWAY.

 

 

 

Old pkers generally didn't attack someone at the top of there level range.

 

 

 

And... the list goes on.

[funnisam]

Old pkers had more resourceful ways of killing people. Old pkers had a thinking and learning brain, rather than pre-programmed A.I, i.e. making old pkers have the advantages of being able to adapt to situations unlike revenants which have set coding. Old pkers could hit 60+ on you in one hit, a revenant dragon hits a max of 32(?). Old pkers could hybrid or even tri-brid you, and make you unable to teleport, unable to move, deal poison damage, spec you with a diamond enchanted bolt for a decent hit, KO you with a dds combo with a max of around 36-36 damage each time.

 

 

 

Revs, cannot adapt and very often can be trapped behind single trees and not walk around them. Revs have very inaccurate melee attacks (which are also the least used move by revenants), their range attack rarely freezes you and is rarely used, and the mage attack is the most common, but can be easily made to splash every single time by using even basic magic defense armour.

 

 

 

Old pkers are more dangerous than revs.

[alphaq]

I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think that you can prayer switch against revenants (At least, I haven't been hit by one as long as I run away and swap mage and range prayers...) Does anyone else know if this works or if I was just lucky?

 

If so, this would probably be the best thing to do when you run into more revs, as long as you have the prayer level.

[Riptide Mage]

Old pkers didn't have teleblock at low levels, freezing at low levels, incredible power at low levels.

 

-Ever heard of a pure?

 

Old pkers were not that same strength in f2p as they are in p2p.

 

-Yes they were, since summoning didn't exist.

 

Old pkers had a brain.

 

-Just means they can plan how to kill you easier

 

Old pkers could be killed for decent drops.

 

-Not if they killed you first

 

Old pkers ignored random explorers, and don't relentlessly chase something that will drop a few pieces of cake.

 

-Not any of the ones I encountered, I lost track of how many times I was killed walking to the mage bank with only a knife

 

Old pkers RAN AWAY.

 

-Only if they underestimated you

 

Old pkers generally didn't attack someone at the top of there level range.

 

-If they were pures they did

 

And... the list goes on.

 

-Yes it does

[3hitm4g3u]

They shouldn't be able to kill you twice in a row. That's stupid.

 

YEAH MAN, OLD TIME PKERS COULD SO NOT KILL YOU TWICE IN A ROW AT MAGE ARENA.

 

 

 

Old pkers didn't have ancients and normal magic at the same time.

 

 

 

What's your point?

 

 

 

And to the other point about pkers not attacking random explorers, tbh that was my favourite pastime. Especially when they started begging you to spare them.

[JoeDaStudd]

Anyone who goes into the wildy now or in the past without atleast dhide armour and some form of food is an idiot.

 

There been a few tweak to hlep you avoid revs seen the old pk'ing days making it easier to avoid revs.

 

 

 

Seriously the only bad thing about revs are there drops which stink.

[fenrir321]

Old pkers didn't have teleblock at low levels, freezing at low levels, incredible power at low levels.

 

-Ever heard of a pure?

 

I didn't know pures at lvl 7 had ice rush and teleblock

 

Old pkers were not that same strength in f2p as they are in p2p.

 

-Yes they were, since summoning didn't exist.

 

That's odd, I thought the max hit for f2p was 32 with a rune 2h and the max hit for p2p was 92 with an ags.

 

Old pkers had a brain.

 

-Just means they can plan how to kill you easier

 

Which translates into a more difficult opponent...

 

Old pkers could be killed for decent drops.

 

-Not if they killed you first

 

True, there was risk in old pking versus rev hunting.

 

Old pkers ignored random explorers, and don't relentlessly chase something that will drop a few pieces of cake.

 

-Not any of the ones I encountered, I lost track of how many times I was killed walking to the mage bank with only a knife

 

also true since the motto of several pkers was: "You never know, they could be carrying 500k on them."

 

Old pkers RAN AWAY.

 

-Only if they underestimated you

 

actually, revs will "backpeddle" after freezing you but won't run away. It's more annoying than frustrating, really.

 

Old pkers generally didn't attack someone at the top of there level range.

 

-If they were pures they did

 

And... the list goes on.

 

-Yes it does

[JoeDaStudd]

Replying to the red comments.

 

[hide=]

Old pkers didn't have teleblock at low levels, freezing at low levels, incredible power at low levels.

 

-Ever heard of a pure?

 

I didn't know pures at lvl 7 had ice rush and teleblock

 

Old pkers were not that same strength in f2p as they are in p2p.

 

-Yes they were, since summoning didn't exist.

 

That's odd, I thought the max hit for f2p was 32 with a rune 2h and the max hit for p2p was 92 with an ags.

 

Old pkers had a brain.

 

-Just means they can plan how to kill you easier

 

Which translates into a more difficult opponent...

 

Old pkers could be killed for decent drops.

 

-Not if they killed you first

 

True, there was risk in old pking versus rev hunting.

 

Old pkers ignored random explorers, and don't relentlessly chase something that will drop a few pieces of cake.

 

-Not any of the ones I encountered, I lost track of how many times I was killed walking to the mage bank with only a knife

 

also true since the motto of several pkers was: "You never know, they could be carrying 500k on them."

 

Old pkers RAN AWAY.

 

-Only if they underestimated you

 

actually, revs will "backpeddle" after freezing you but won't run away. It's more annoying than frustrating, really.

 

Old pkers generally didn't attack someone at the top of there level range.

 

-If they were pures they did

 

And... the list goes on.

 

-Yes it does

[/hide]

 

if the lvl 7 revs are getting you you really should train some more.

 

AGS wasn't out when the wildy was the wildy. The max melee was DDS specs or anchor spec.

 

Old Pk'er would wait till you had fought the mage then get you, they would time a magic attack with a full range or melee combo to KO you almost instantly. They would never get stuck behind a tree or do 1 attack then tele.

[3hitm4g3u]

 

AGS wasn't out when the wildy was the wildy.

 

Yeah it was.

 

 

 

The max hit with it wasn't 92 though lol.

[JoeDaStudd]

 

AGS wasn't out when the wildy was the wildy.

 

Yeah it was.

 

GWD was released late august the wildy removed early December. The amount of AGS's entering the game in the first 3 months was minimal due the the rareness of the drops, the new massively stronger bosses then the game had seen and grand exchange only came into the game in the November (it was harder to actually create the AGS pre-GE). I honestly never saw anyone with a AGS pre GE.

[funnisam]

God wars dungeon update: 28th August 2007

 

Old Pking removed: 11th December 2007

 

 

 

The AGS was most certainly out before pking was removed, albeit not for very long at all. However the max was actually 96 with dharok's set effect in pvp. And just because you didn't see any doesn't mean there weren't any...