Dire_Wolf Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 This topic has no discussion value, though you can discuss it if you want. But i don't know about you but i were not aware that unnecessary messages in public chat was against rules. So i wanted to put some attention on this... Not only because of the rule but because Price manipulators are: 1) Ruining our public chat at G.E, by spamming it up or flooding it if you may. Even if you add the people to your ignore list their stupid messages will make your important ones disappear faster. Example if your in a area and a player is spamming the chat. Your message in Private chat and Clan chat will disappear faster than in a area with no spam. 2) Price manipulators are no good. Them spamming public chats proofs it even more... OK to my point. Rules of Runescape>Respect>Spamming, or disruptive behaviour 6. What is flooding the chat window? Spamming/flooding the chat window is to fill the chat window with unnecessary text. This is an offence and is disruptive and unfair on other players, as it makes it more difficult for them to communicate and trade with each other. Here is a screenshot of a chat where a price manipulator is advertising a clan chat by flooding the chat: So please if you see a player flooding chat, report them for disruptive behaviour. This will keep our public chat cleaner.. Thanks for reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 By the fact the name of the file is "Goldmerch4" they would probaly just make a new file if it got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I usually report them for macro or use of bots because they are autotyping fools. I'd love for Jagex to instate something like the Rico Act on them because the spam is terrible and it scams the players who fall for it. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure people using auto typers can be reported under macroing. I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Well manipulating is against the rules and they are promoting people to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Which is the point of this thread. To let you know that it is. [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 By the fact the name of the file is "Goldmerch4" they would probaly just make a new file if it got banned. And every time they make another account, they waste time going through tutorial. :thumbup: Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. It seems it is Laura. So report ahead! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Well manipulating is against the rules and they are promoting people to do it.Price manipulation is not against any rules. Autotyping is not reportable unless they specifically admit to using one. Advertising a clan chat or buying/selling an item is not against the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Well manipulating is against the rules and they are promoting people to do it.Price manipulation is not against any rules. But flooding chat (Unnecessary messages) is. And that's what majority price manipulator clan chats do when they advertise at G.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadukar123 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure people using auto typers can be reported under macroing. It's only bannable if those [developmentally delayed]s actually admit to having them. Ex: "i is usin macro 2 type dis atm" That came from a PMod I know, and the same thing from another one. Edit: Rage@@@ AT LAURA@@@ Drops: Misc: Abyssal Whip x28 , Dark Bow x5, Beserker Ring x3, Warrior ring x1 Dragon: Dragon Platelegs x2 , Dragon Plateskirt x2, Dragon Boots x38, Dragon Med Helm x4, Shield left half x3 Godwars: Godsword shard x13, Bandos Hilt x3, Bandos Chestplate x6, Bandos Tassets x4, Bandos Boots x5, Saradomin Sword x1, Zamorakian Spear x1,. Armadyl Helm x2, Armadyl chestplate x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Well manipulating is against the rules and they are promoting people to do it. Price manipulation is not against the rules in-game. However macroing, flooding the chat window, and trying to scam other players our of their money is. So they are clearly breaking atleast three rules there and the cc owners are most likely behind the autotypers so they should be punished too. They are banning mains of the merchant clans now though. I'm pretty sure people using auto typers can be reported under macroing. It's only bannable if those [developmentally delayed] actually admit to having them. Ex: "i is usin macro 2 type dis atm" That came from a PMod I know, and the same thing from another one. Edit: Rage@@@ AT LAURA@@@ All reporting for macroing does is flag the user for their system to investigate so yes you can report for it and yes they might be banned. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 Well manipulating is against the rules and they are promoting people to do it. Price manipulation is not against the rules in-game. However macroing, flooding the chat window, and trying to scam other players our of their money is. So they are clearly breaking atleast three rules there and the cc owners are most likely behind the autotypers so they should be punished too. They are banning mains of the merchant clans now though. That's good description of price manipulators actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Well manipulating is against the rules and they are promoting people to do it.Price manipulation is not against any rules. But flooding chat (Unnecessary messages) is. And that's what majority price manipulator clan chats do when they advertise at G.E.But it is not considered spam as per the rules. If you wish to take action you may do so. Further action may be taken by Jagex staff at their discretion. That's good description of price manipulators actions.Price manipulators and macroers are very different. There are two types of spam, game related and non-game related. Game related spam consists of things like trade offers, adverts to join a clan chat channel or PvP spam. [...]ignore this type of spam, and if players are complaining, [it is advisable] that the ignore list is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racheya Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I'm pretty sure people using auto typers can be reported under macroing. It's only bannable if those [developmentally delayed] actually admit to having them. Ex: "i is usin macro 2 type dis atm" That came from a PMod I know, and the same thing from another one. Edit: Rage@@@ AT LAURA@@@ Sometimes you can TELL when they're using an autotyper and I'm sure Jagex can tell even easier than we can, through their system. I edit for the [Tip.It Times]. I rarely write in [My Blog]. I am an [Ex-Moderator]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 But it is not considered spam as per the rules. If you wish to take action you may do so. Further action may be taken by Jagex staff at their discretion. That's good description of price manipulators actions.Price manipulators and macroers are very different. I have heard from many people on this board that price manipulating clan chat leaders often cheat other users out of their money. How is that not scamming? Also using autotyper is not exactly macroing, but i think i read using it is against the rules. If it's not i would like to see some proof. Even so they are flooding the chat, which is against rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Erm. As far as I know, it's not against the rules. Well manipulating is against the rules and they are promoting people to do it.Price manipulation is not against any rules. But flooding chat (Unnecessary messages) is. And that's what majority price manipulator clan chats do when they advertise at G.E.But it is not considered spam as per the rules. If you wish to take action you may do so. Further action may be taken by Jagex staff at their discretion. That's good description of price manipulators actions.Price manipulators and macroers are very different. They may be different but in the end they both hurt players playing with either forcing them to pay more, not allowing them to sell their items, or spamming public chat so they can't read messages. Noone likes to see "join this clan and make millions" every other line in their public chat. As Sirhermen said they still make the chat go away faster even if they are on your ignore or you put chat to friends. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 But it is not considered spam as per the rules. If you wish to take action you may do so. Further action may be taken by Jagex staff at their discretion. That's good description of price manipulators actions.Price manipulators and macroers are very different. I have heard from many people on this board that price manipulating clan chat leaders often cheat other users out of their money. How is that not scamming? Also using autotyper is not exactly macroing, but i think i read using it is against the rules. If it's not i would like to see some proof. Even so they are flooding the chat, which is against rules.Nothing is being done directly to cheat people out of their money. Rather, a price manipulator advises people what to buy and sell. It is up to these users to use their knowledge, provided both in-game and on the Grand Exchange, to make a decision; it is not against the rules. Autotyping is against the rules but it is not reportable unless a) they admit to using one or B) begin to type non-game related spam. I shall quote again.There are two types of spam, game related and non-game related. Game related spam consists of things like trade offers, adverts to join a clan chat channel or PvP spam. [...]ignore this type of spam, and if players are complaining, [it is advisable] that the ignore list is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punitive_D Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I've long interpreted what these guys do as against the rules, whether they're auto typing or not. I report them frequently. In fact, I keep getting the "you just reported someone less than 30 seconds ago -- don't abuse the system" message. There are so many at the GE in the crowded worlds that it's a big job to report them all. Perhaps a Tip It Group event? Hop from world to world reporting the spammers. This would assure multiple reports for each spammer and maybe help to get more of them banned? (Btw, I've seen a few people spamming with pretty decent stats, so getting banned might be a big deal for some of these guys.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pret Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Everytime I've seen these type of people, I've reported them as much as I can. (is there still that 60 second rule?) It's one of the excuses to be a wannabemod. :thumbup: Edit to make it clearer: I only ever report when it's 100% sure that they're autoing. "Football is a simple game made complicated by people who should know better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 But it is not considered spam as per the rules. If you wish to take action you may do so. Further action may be taken by Jagex staff at their discretion. That's good description of price manipulators actions.Price manipulators and macroers are very different. I have heard from many people on this board that price manipulating clan chat leaders often cheat other users out of their money. How is that not scamming? Also using autotyper is not exactly macroing, but i think i read using it is against the rules. If it's not i would like to see some proof. Even so they are flooding the chat, which is against rules.Nothing is being done directly to cheat people out of their money. Rather, a price manipulator advises people what to buy and sell. It is up to these users to use their knowledge, provided both in-game and on the Grand Exchange, to make a decision; it is not against the rules. Autotyping is against the rules but it is not reportable unless a) they admit to using one or B) begin to type non-game related spam. I shall quote again.There are two types of spam, game related and non-game related. Game related spam consists of things like trade offers, adverts to join a clan chat channel or PvP spam. [...]ignore this type of spam, and if players are complaining, [it is advisable] that the ignore list is used. Wow... There goes our only way to get ride of the stupid messages of price manipulators :wall: Here i thought we had found a way :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 You can report players advertising a clan chat excessively if you wish. Atmosphere and the community trumps the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 But it is not considered spam as per the rules. If you wish to take action you may do so. Further action may be taken by Jagex staff at their discretion. That's good description of price manipulators actions.Price manipulators and macroers are very different. I have heard from many people on this board that price manipulating clan chat leaders often cheat other users out of their money. How is that not scamming? Also using autotyper is not exactly macroing, but i think i read using it is against the rules. If it's not i would like to see some proof. Even so they are flooding the chat, which is against rules.Nothing is being done directly to cheat people out of their money. Rather, a price manipulator advises people what to buy and sell. It is up to these users to use their knowledge, provided both in-game and on the Grand Exchange, to make a decision; it is not against the rules. Autotyping is against the rules but it is not reportable unless a) they admit to using one or B) begin to type non-game related spam. I shall quote again.There are two types of spam, game related and non-game related. Game related spam consists of things like trade offers, adverts to join a clan chat channel or PvP spam. [...]ignore this type of spam, and if players are complaining, [it is advisable] that the ignore list is used. Jagex is not stupid they know if someone is using an autotyper or not and those advertisers have been muted many a time for using one. They also tell the people to buy the item and at what price to buy it. They don't suggest it they tell it. It may be up to the users to make the buy but they lie to the players and give them false information that encourages a very bad buy. Lying to players and tricking them is scamming therefore it is against the rules. @Sirhemen: Continue to report them as much as you like. It does not say in the KB you can't report for autotyping nor has a J mod said so. As Jagex says P mod are no more than their eyes and ears in game so what they say is not law unless they quote the KB. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 You can report players advertising a clan chat excessively if you wish. Atmosphere and the community trumps the rules. What does excessively mean? Also what do you mean by last line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 You can report players advertising a clan chat excessively if you wish. Atmosphere and the community trumps the rules. What does excessively mean? Also what do you mean by last line? They sit in the ge all day and spam I think that falls under excessive. If they are disturbing the atmosphere in game and bothering the community then Jagex will get them because they could potentially lose subscribers and maybe get DDOS'd some more or even......that dreaded brick threw their window. Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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