shared or accurate..

[un4given]

should i use shared for att str and def (stats in sig) or should i raise att to 99 first? convince me.

[Deltaer]

Although controlled is the most efficient way of training (if your goal eventually is 99 99 99), I wouldn't recommend it.

 

 

 

Why? It takes forever to level... and psychologically, if you're like me, you're going to need some motivation to keep going, and having to wait 1.5mil xp to level will just discourage you.

 

 

 

However, if you can stay motivated, then go for it.

 

 

 

99 attack is a long way to go; make shorter goals like 95 attack first.. I'd bring your defence up a bit if I were you too.

[un4given]

i'm a very patient person. just looking for pros/cons of either 99 att first or shared xp.

[tigershelby2]

Although controlled is the most efficient way of training (if your goal eventually is 99 99 99), I wouldn't recommend it.

 

 

 

Why? It takes forever to level... and psychologically, if you're like me, you're going to need some motivation to keep going, and having to wait 1.5mil xp to level will just discourage you.

 

 

 

However, if you can stay motivated, then go for it.

 

 

 

99 attack is a long way to go; make shorter goals like 95 attack first.. I'd bring your defence up a bit if I were you too.

technically speaking controlled is slower training than trining each skill individually. 1- you loose 0.01 xp per hit which really doesnt matter. 2- you will do more damage faster if you train att then str then def

[jjjon123]

If you are looking for pros/cons then technically you should train atk first, then str, and finally finish off with def rather than fight controlled

[un4given]

well i'm basically two hitting ghostly warriors so i dunno if that plays any part or not

[Cptbaker08]

Well if you get to 99 attack first you will have the trimmed skill cape, then you get to work on 99 str/def. Which means that you will use the whip for def training, and a Sara Sword or Dscim+Rune def for str training. Its not a bad thing, but some people don't like using something other then a whip.

 

 

 

Now it will take longer if you used control, but you will get 3 99's all at once (well really close together). You also don't have to worry about having to switch weapons.

Although controlled is the most efficient way of training (if your goal eventually is 99 99 99), I wouldn't recommend it.

 

 

 

Why? It takes forever to level... and psychologically, if you're like me, you're going to need some motivation to keep going, and having to wait 1.5mil xp to level will just discourage you.

 

 

 

However, if you can stay motivated, then go for it.

 

 

 

99 attack is a long way to go; make shorter goals like 95 attack first.. I'd bring your defence up a bit if I were you too.

technically speaking controlled is slower training than trining each skill individually. 1- you loose 0.01 xp per hit which really doesnt matter. 2- you will do more damage faster if you train att then str then def

Its not slower. Its either the same, or faster. Some people can't use a SS so they have to go to d scim, which is much slower. Netting less exp an hr. Even if you can use the SS then you lose the ability for a shield, such as the rune defender, which also increases exp/hr.

[tigershelby2]

Well if you get to 99 attack first you will have the trimmed skill cape, then you get to work on 99 str/def. Which means that you will use the whip for def training, and a Sara Sword or Dscim+Rune def for str training. Its not a bad thing, but some people don't like using something other then a whip.

 

 

 

Now it will take longer if you used control, but you will get 3 99's all at once (well really close together). You also don't have to worry about having to switch weapons.

Although controlled is the most efficient way of training (if your goal eventually is 99 99 99), I wouldn't recommend it.

 

 

 

Why? It takes forever to level... and psychologically, if you're like me, you're going to need some motivation to keep going, and having to wait 1.5mil xp to level will just discourage you.

 

 

 

However, if you can stay motivated, then go for it.

 

 

 

99 attack is a long way to go; make shorter goals like 95 attack first.. I'd bring your defence up a bit if I were you too.

technically speaking controlled is slower training than trining each skill individually. 1- you loose 0.01 xp per hit which really doesnt matter. 2- you will do more damage faster if you train att then str then def

Its not slower. Its either the same, or faster. Some people can't use a SS so they have to go to d scim, which is much slower. Netting less exp an hr. Even if you can use the SS then you lose the ability for a shield, such as the rune defender, which also increases exp/hr.

i believe there is a thread on this in debate club...but it is actually faster to train att first, then str, then def. the reason is that att helps you hit more often ie. more xp per hour. then str helps you hit higher so you gain even for xp per hour

[un4given]

yea i heard about that but i dont think it will have much of a difference since i'm 2 hitting aggros but all input appreciated

[tigershelby2]

yea i heard about that but i dont think it will have much of a difference since i'm 2 hitting aggros but all input appreciated

it really doesnt matter how many hits you take to kill the monster...its the same if you 1 hit a chickenm or 1 hit the corp. beast

[RayOxide]

The "recommended" leveling prior to getting melee 99 is 85 in all melee including HP at minimum. So you are pretty safe to just get 99 attack right now, no hesitation, and I would say go for it. But dont underrate defence. It really helps in PvE.

[un4given]

yea i heard about that but i dont think it will have much of a difference since i'm 2 hitting aggros but all input appreciated

it really doesnt matter how many hits you take to kill the monster...its the same if you 1 hit a chickenm or 1 hit the corp. beast

 

 

 

explain then

[Death123141]

yea i heard about that but i dont think it will have much of a difference since i'm 2 hitting aggros but all input appreciated

it really doesnt matter how many hits you take to kill the monster...its the same if you 1 hit a chickenm or 1 hit the corp. beast

 

 

 

explain then

 

It DOES matter how many hits it takes to kill a monster. And just train controlled.

[tigershelby2]

yea i heard about that but i dont think it will have much of a difference since i'm 2 hitting aggros but all input appreciated

it really doesnt matter how many hits you take to kill the monster...its the same if you 1 hit a chickenm or 1 hit the corp. beast

 

 

 

explain then

a higher att level will make it more likely that you will 2-hit your monster. even at 99 att you arent always gong to get a 2-hit kill, bt a higher attlevel will make it more likely and therefore faster kills, and a higher str level just increases your chances to 2-hit

[bigboi18184]

yea i heard about that but i dont think it will have much of a difference since i'm 2 hitting aggros but all input appreciated

it really doesnt matter how many hits you take to kill the monster...its the same if you 1 hit a chickenm or 1 hit the corp. beast

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LMFAO, no its not the same... the faster the kill the faster u will get your exp its not the same at all !!!

 

 

 

If i 1 hit a chicken i get a few xp if i 1 hit the corp beast i get a few thousand exp....

 

 

 

The faster the kill the more exp per hour, which is what any person training a skill is looking for, thats why their are umpten-hundred posts a day about where the fastest exp can be gained.

[RayOxide]

I dont understand what you guys are arguing about?

 

XP per hour heavily depends on how many hits it takes to kill a monster, but the xp isnt any different if you hit three 10s or six 5s.

 

 

 

a higher att level will make it more likely that you will 2-hit your monster. even at 99 att you arent always gong to get a 2-hit kill, bt a higher attlevel will make it more likely and therefore faster kills, and a higher str level just increases your chances to 2-hit

 

 

 

Higher strength increases maximum hit, higher attack increases accuracy.

 

Aggressive attacking style increases likeliness of a higher hit, but overall less accuracy.

 

Accurate attacking style is just equal everything. Has more accuracy than aggressive but less chance of hitting max.

 

 

 

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING I DONT UNDERSTAND ANY OF YOU :?

[tigershelby2]

I dont understand what you guys are arguing about?

 

XP per hour heavily depends on how many hits it takes to kill a monster, but the xp isnt any different if you hit three 10s or six 5s.

 

 

 

a higher att level will make it more likely that you will 2-hit your monster. even at 99 att you arent always gong to get a 2-hit kill, bt a higher attlevel will make it more likely and therefore faster kills, and a higher str level just increases your chances to 2-hit

 

 

 

Higher strength increases maximum hit, higher attack increases accuracy.

 

Aggressive attacking style increases likeliness of a higher hit, but overall less accuracy.

 

Accurate attacking style is just equal everything. Has more accuracy than aggressive but less chance of hitting max.

 

 

 

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING I DONT UNDERSTAND ANY OF YOU :?

here...look through this and decide for yourself

 

 

 

viewtopic.php?f=143&t=775559

[un4given]

original idea:

 

 

 

shared xp or accurate xp at 2 hit aggro training spot, pros/cons

[bigboi18184]

pros of shared - you will level all stats at around the same time...

 

 

 

Cons of shared - It takes FOREVER

 

 

 

Pros of accurate - Doesnt take as long to level as shared and you may or may not hit more accurately...i dont program for jagex so i wouldnt know.

 

 

 

Cons - your only getting exo for accurate/hp/slayer at once while with shared u can get for more combat stats.

[RayOxide]

The pros and cons are the same. "Shared" is actually "Accurate" training, just with xp in all melee.

 

The only con to 'accurate' is with a whip, its good to train shared because overall you get faster xp than you would if you wanted to train Atk, then def with a whip and str with a d scim or ss.

 

Shared is the same. If you wanted to train only 1 skill you should only train that 1 skill unless you plan on training another skill soon.

 

 

 

Training controlled is faster if you want to train your strength up eventually, since whip xp rates are better than d scim or ss xp rates.

[un4given]

The pros and cons are the same. "Shared" is actually "Accurate" training, just with xp in all melee.

 

The only con to 'accurate' is with a whip, its good to train shared because overall you get faster xp than you would if you wanted to train Atk, then def with a whip and str with a d scim or ss.

 

Shared is the same. If you wanted to train only 1 skill you should only train that 1 skill unless you plan on training another skill soon.

 

 

 

Training controlled is faster if you want to train your strength up eventually, since whip xp rates are better than d scim or ss xp rates.

 

 

 

finally a post that makes sense

[RayOxide]

No problem :P

 

 

 

Just remember though, 99 attack is a pretty good goal, and I would want it asap if I was going for it. So personally I would just train accurate and D scim or SS my strength up and whip my def up again.

[un4given]

No problem :P

 

 

 

Just remember though, 99 attack is a pretty good goal, and I would want it asap if I was going for it. So personally I would just train accurate and D scim or SS my strength up and whip my def up again.

 

 

 

Yea i was debating over 99 att or raising my def along with my att and str since it's lagging. My att str and hp are less than like 50k xp away from eachother and since the aggros i'm training on are mostly 2 hitters, i wouldn't think the higher att level would make that big of a difference.

 

 

 

edit: not a slayer fan either...maybe oneday tho

[tongobongo]

Controlled is slower if you take into account the levels you gain levels faster with targeted attack styles. For example:

 

Two people with balanced stats of 70 70 70 wish to train to 80 80 80. Assume they both are using the same weapon for all the training.

 

 

 

The first alternates between accurate and aggressive every level, then trains defence.

 

He trains and obtains 80 80 70 after gaining 2496882exp. He has 1248441exp till his goal. Then he trains defence using his beefed up attack stats.

 

 

 

The second trains with controlled.

 

He trains and at 2496882exp he has 77 77 77. He has 1248441exp till his goal. His attack and strength have been lower for the entire duration of the training(excluding the start).

 

 

 

Attack and Strength increase experience per hour. Since the first guy decided to increase attack and strength first he has been getting faster experience for the duration of the training. The difference in speed might not be very noticeable at very high levels but it is on a new character. This is disregarding the stat difference between whip with defender and ss. There is also a difference of defense which might have given the controlled guy benifit depending on the monster being trained on. Someone claimed the controlled option also loses .01exp per hit to rounding. Although I can't verify the validity of this it can be ignored as insignificant.

 

 

 

It depends on what you want to do. If you want faster training; train strength first, then attack, then defense. I say train strength first since it raises exp/hour more against training(low def) creatures. If you want less annoyance with the loss of the use of your whip for strength training then train controlled. If I was you I would train to 99 strength or attack on the focused style.

[langer]

I was about to post something in the lines of what tongobongo wrote.

 

 

 

It all depends on if you are training on low-mid level monsters or high level monster (usually slaying). If you are camping a low level monster and do not need to bank or eat food, training agressive skills (str and att) first then going with def will be faster as you will get higher xp rates while not needing the added defense.

 

 

 

If you are training at places where defence is a factor, the training controlled is probably a better choice as defense will come into play to give you better xp rates (less eating-guthaning - less banking).

 

 

 

I'd advise going controlled as you won't have to downgrade from the whip.