The Dark Lord Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 So, what's happening to Kazakh? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Nah, I'd want the whole world to be able to use FTL travel if it were possible, so I guess its a worldwide project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 That wouldn't work ross, because that would only get the energy the sun puts out externally. The vast majority of the energy is internal. I think. Because that's where the fusion reactions take place. Plus, I think building a dyson sphere would be more effective on another star. For example, Sirius. It puts out way more energy. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 So, what's happening to Kazakh? You guys are invading your ally and splitting up his territory. That wouldn't work ross, because that would only get the energy the sun puts out externally. The vast majority of the energy is internal. I think. Because that's where the fusion reactions take place. Plus, I think building a dyson sphere would be more effective on another star. For example, Sirius. It puts out way more energy. Yes but, how do you get that energy to a ship's warp drive? Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 That's what the batteries would be for. If that doesn't work out, I have a few other ideas, that would not let us travel as far, but would let us travel at fast speeds. Unless we build a spacecraft the size of a few Jupiter. But I don't see that happening. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Well, the batteries could be transported using a warp drive if it were possible to create that Dyson sphere. Is it plausable to create a full dyson sphere though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 So, what's happening to Kazakh? You guys are invading your ally and splitting up his territory. That wouldn't work ross, because that would only get the energy the sun puts out externally. The vast majority of the energy is internal. I think. Because that's where the fusion reactions take place. Plus, I think building a dyson sphere would be more effective on another star. For example, Sirius. It puts out way more energy. Yes but, how do you get that energy to a ship's warp drive? Not unless he asks for help (like he's mixing it up with a civil war). I guess everyone got bored and decided to help when we didn't even know for sure if there was a problem. :| Goddammit, I DO NOT LIKE SHRIMP! SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Well, the batteries could be transported using a warp drive if it were possible to create that Dyson sphere. Is it plausable to create a full dyson sphere though? I doubt it. If we could figure out dark matter, or find a few large chunks of metal floating around the universe, it's possible. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 [hide=Updated map][/hide] Spot the changes :P Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 [hide=Updated map][/hide] Spot the changes :P Why give up your possession of the Arctic Isles? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 [hide=Updated map][/hide] Spot the changes :P Why give up your possession of the Arctic Isles? To secure Europe. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Okay, well, from the figures I have here, our sun produces about 4X10^26 watts (I don't know what that is in joules, but I assume its above 1 Yottajoule.) So lets use that as a base for other stars as well. Doom, those carbon nanotubes just might come in handy. [hide=HUGE WALL OF TEXT, ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO OPEN THESE TAGS]A third type of Dyson sphere is the "Dyson bubble". It would be similar to a Dyson swarm, composed of many independent constructs (usually solar power satellites and space habitats) and likewise could be constructed incrementally. Unlike the Dyson swarm, the constructs making it up are not in orbit around the star, but would be statitessatellites suspended by use of enormous light sails using radiation pressure to counteract the star's pull of gravity. Such constructs would not be in danger of collision or of eclipsing one another; they would be totally stationary with regard to the star, and independent of one another. As the ratio of radiation pressure and the force of gravity from a star are constant regardless of the distance (provided the statite has an unobstructed line-of-sight to the surface of its star), such statites could also vary their distance from their central star. The practicality of this approach is questionable with modern material science, but cannot yet be ruled out. A statite deployed around our own sun would have to have an overall density of 0.78 grams per square meter of sail. To illustrate the low mass of the required materials, consider that the total mass of a bubble of such material 1 AU in radius would be about 2.17 × 10^20 kg, which is about the same mass as the asteroid Pallas. Such a material is currently beyond our ability to produce; the lightest carbon-fiber light sail material currently produced has a density without payload of 3 g/m², or about four times heavier than would be needed to construct a solar statite. However, there has been some speculation about the creation of ultra light carbon nanotube meshes through molecular manufacturing techniques whose density would be below 0.1 g/m². If production of such materials on an industrial scale is feasible, and such materials could be used in light sails, the average sail density with rigging might be kept to 0.3 g/m² (a "spin stabilized" light sail requires minimal additional mass in rigging). If such a sail could be constructed at this areal density, a space habitat the size of the L5 Society's proposed O'Neill cylinder 500 km², with room for over 1 million inhabitants, massing 3 × 106 tons could be supported by a circular light sail 3,000 km in diameter, with a combined sail/habitat mass of 5.4 × 109 kg. For comparison, this is just slightly smaller than the diameter of Jupiter's moon Europa (although the sail is a flat disc, not a sphere), or the distance between San Francisco and Kansas City. Such a structure would, however, have a mass quite a lot less than many asteroids. While the construction of such a massive inhabitable statite would be a gigantic undertaking, and the required material science behind it is as yet uncertain, its technical challenges are slight compared to other engineering feats and required materials proposed in other Dyson sphere variants. In theory, if enough statites were created and deployed around their star, they would compose a non-rigid version of the Dyson shell. Such a shell would not suffer from the drawbacks of massive compressive pressure, nor are the mass requirements of such a shell as high as the rigid form. Such a shell would, however, have the same optical and thermal properties as the rigid form, and would be detected by searchers in a similar fashion[/hide] The Dyson bubble seems to be the most reasonable of the variations. That doesn't mean it would be easy, but I'd say it is at least possible in the next 20 years game time, assuming we are using all of our ships for the sole purpose of creating the Superstructure, combined with the ones we would produce specifically for this to happen. That would be able to create many, many FTL batteries, making it reasonable to travel to colonies multiple light years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 [hide=Updated map][/hide] Spot the changes :P Why give up your possession of the Arctic Isles? To secure Europe. If you didn't do that, Doom would've invaded Eurasia? What the [bleep]? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 [hide=Updated map][/hide] Spot the changes :P Why give up your possession of the Arctic Isles? To secure Europe. If you didn't do that, Doom would've invaded Eurasia? What the [bleep]? No, but it would've left an open passage for him (or anyone who might ally him in the future) to do so. Any attack on Europe now will either have to be an amphibious assault against my heavily defended coastlines, or an attack through Russia and against my wall. Besides, the Arctic isles are useless to me. Vienna Raszyn Warsaw Klushino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_bert Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 HUGE WALL OF TEXT, ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO OPEN THESE TAGS Ross. That was brilliant. Rocco, I thought Dusty explained that poverty was pretty much wiped out? I don't know exactly what's going on though, so maybe I'm being stupid. 'Tis I, 'tis Vindice, 'tis I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 [hide=Updated map][/hide] Spot the changes :P Why give up your possession of the Arctic Isles? To secure Europe. If you didn't do that, Doom would've invaded Eurasia? What the [bleep]? No, but it would've left an open passage for him (or anyone who might ally him in the future) to do so. Any attack on Europe now will either have to be an amphibious assault against my heavily defended coastlines, or an attack through Russia and against my wall. Besides, the Arctic isles are useless to me. Then would you wind if I took them? Anyhow If there is still war in khazikstan I'm sending in 500 HAW's (just fyi HeavyAssaultWalkers) Along with 10 million trained infantry troops and just for the heck of it I am sending in 7 of my 14 aircraft carriers to provide air cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Along with 10 million trained infantry troops and just for the heck of it I am sending in 7 of my 14 aircraft carriers to provide air cover. Kazakh doesn't share any borders with oceans. However, it would work if you docked them at China and did an aerial invasion of Kazakh. (By the way, the invasion is on hold until we know what's happening.) SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Isn't 10 million troops a little heavy handed anyways? Also, wouldn't these HAWs be limited to [pathetic number here] mph, due to their massive size? Seriously, by the time they got there, the war would probably be over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Isn't 10 million troops a little heavy handed anyways? Also, wouldn't these HAWs be limited to [pathetic number here] mph, due to their massive size? Seriously, by the time they got there, the war would probably be over... the max mph for the HAW is around 20 :x (but its fairly easy to do that on almost all terrain) and I dont wanna send in a small force and get it destroyed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Along with 10 million trained infantry troops and just for the heck of it I am sending in 7 of my 14 aircraft carriers to provide air cover. Kazakh doesn't share any borders with oceans. However, it would work if you docked them at China and did an aerial invasion of Kazakh. (By the way, the invasion is on hold until we know what's happening.) invasion? what invasion? >_> either way, just in case, im mobilising my military, and they are awaiting orders incase something happens or it gets out of hand in other news, russia has finished its research on impromtu stealth/invisibilty, with cameras and screen projecting whats on the other side. not perfect, but enough to obscure things from view in some cases. it is currently being integrated in to some of our... assets. our tier2 walkers/exosuits are nearly finished prototyping, they are much lighter, smaller and faster than before, at the cost of heavy weaponry (no railguns, rocket launchers etc). both tiers will still be used in combat situations, with the majority of ground forces being t2, with covering fire by t1. these also have the basic stealth intergrated into them also working on a new weapons platform, with inspiration from metalgear. dont know how long it will take to do, though. I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Along with 10 million trained infantry troops and just for the heck of it I am sending in 7 of my 14 aircraft carriers to provide air cover. Kazakh doesn't share any borders with oceans. However, it would work if you docked them at China and did an aerial invasion of Kazakh. (By the way, the invasion is on hold until we know what's happening.) invasion? what invasion? >_> either way, just in case, im mobilising my military, and they are awaiting orders incase something happens or it gets out of hand in other news, russia has finished its research on impromtu stealth/invisibilty, with cameras and screen projecting whats on the other side. not perfect, but enough to obscure things from view in some cases. it is currently being integrated in to some of our... assets. our tier2 walkers/exosuits are nearly finished prototyping, they are much lighter, smaller and faster than before, at the cost of heavy weaponry (no railguns, rocket launchers etc). both tiers will still be used in combat situations, with the majority of ground forces being t2, with covering fire by t1. these also have the basic stealth intergrated into them also working on a new weapons platform, with inspiration from metalgear. dont know how long it will take to do, though. When did you start researching walkers? (just fyi I dont like having people encroaching on my field) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 The USA put a few hundred thousand people into vietnam. The biggest military in the world in real life is 9 millionish. Sending in 10 million to quell a rebellion that may or may not be happening is undeniably pointless. And it would probably put you deep into debt. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_ Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 The USA put a few hundred thousand people into vietnam. The biggest military in the world in real life is 9 millionish. Sending in 10 million to quell a rebellion that may or may not be happening is undeniably pointless. And it would probably put you deep into debt. very well I will only send in 5 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 invasion? what invasion? >_> either way, just in case, im mobilising my military, and they are awaiting orders incase something happens or it gets out of hand People in the NWO thought there was a civil war breaking out in Kazakh, so we sent troops to help Trol_Slayer out. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walka92 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Along with 10 million trained infantry troops and just for the heck of it I am sending in 7 of my 14 aircraft carriers to provide air cover. Kazakh doesn't share any borders with oceans. However, it would work if you docked them at China and did an aerial invasion of Kazakh. (By the way, the invasion is on hold until we know what's happening.) invasion? what invasion? >_> either way, just in case, im mobilising my military, and they are awaiting orders incase something happens or it gets out of hand in other news, russia has finished its research on impromtu stealth/invisibilty, with cameras and screen projecting whats on the other side. not perfect, but enough to obscure things from view in some cases. it is currently being integrated in to some of our... assets. our tier2 walkers/exosuits are nearly finished prototyping, they are much lighter, smaller and faster than before, at the cost of heavy weaponry (no railguns, rocket launchers etc). both tiers will still be used in combat situations, with the majority of ground forces being t2, with covering fire by t1. these also have the basic stealth intergrated into them also working on a new weapons platform, with inspiration from metalgear. dont know how long it will take to do, though. When did you start researching walkers? (just fyi I dont like having people encroaching on my field) dude its not "your" field, and ive had walkers for quite a while. i even posted design pics of them....ive had them for like 15 years atleast. I'm gonna be walking down an alley in varrock, and walka is going to walk up to me in a trench coat and say "psst.. hey man, wanna buy some sara brew"walka92- retired with 99 in attack, strength, defence, health, magic, ranged, prayer and herblore and 137 combat. some day i may return to claim 138 combat, but alas, that time has not yet come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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